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Yes, Alpine N1 was average for this tour 20 11.30%
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Old 07-06-2019, 12:52 PM   #31
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like I said, I'm convinced people have fallen in love with seeing those letters on the almanac I'll take Two Step > Ants and DDTW > Seek Up every time over hearing some obscure song liberation like Beach Ball that 15 people care about in the audience.
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    I donít understand what was so great about last night. It looks like a cookie-cutter ďgreatest hitsĒ setlist from any festival show 2008-2013.

    There were no awful runs of songs, yeah. But itís truly pathetic how THAT is the standard ďfansĒ of this band now hold them to. ďWell, half the show didnít outright suck, so yeah AWESOME SETLISTĒ

    For 2019, sure itís above average. And that in itself is saying how much this band has tanked in the last 6 years.

    How many times can you folks pay to hear grey st, dont drink and ants marching?? I just donít get it. 20+ times each was enough for me in one lifetime. Greatest hits singles stopped getting me excited at shows long, long ago
    im starting to think an entire show of liberations are the only way you will go home happy.

    Last night was fantastic on all accounts. And im far from a ballwasher.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 01:24 PM   #33
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    Anyone who thinks last night isnít a great 2019 DMB setlist needs to find a new band because thatís about as good as weíre gonna see with how big the catalog is now.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 03:02 PM   #34
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    Anyone who thinks last night isnít a great 2019 DMB setlist needs to find a new band because thatís about as good as weíre gonna see with how big the catalog is now.


    IĎm not sure Iím ready to go that far, but with as many good to great songs and so few meh to bad songs itís hard to truly argue against it.

    Sure, the show lacked some of the more rare great songs or any bustouts, but thatís not the only factor in what makes a show great.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 03:41 PM   #35
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    it was a very good show
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    Old 07-06-2019, 03:42 PM   #36
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    like I said, I'm convinced people have fallen in love with seeing those letters on the almanac I'll take Two Step > Ants and DDTW > Seek Up every time over hearing some obscure song liberation like Beach Ball that 15 people care about in the audience.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 04:12 PM   #37
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    it was a very good show


    it was good. It could be better.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 04:43 PM   #38
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    Yeah, last night and this show below are pretty much identical really:

    Dave Matthews Band
    June 13, 2010
    Bonnaroo Music & Arts Festival
    Great Stage Park, Manchester, TN

    Don't Drink the Water
    You Might Die Trying
    Seven
    Lying in the Hands of God
    Shake Me Like a Monkey
    Can't Stop
    Tripping Billies
    Spaceman Ľ
    Corn Bread Ľ
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    Why I Am
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    Time Bomb Ľ
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    The Needle and the Damage Done
    All Along the Watchtower Ľ
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    i waffle between this and alpine n1 '09 as the shows i least enjoyed being in attendance for. too much big whiskey'll kill 'ya.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 05:22 PM   #39
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    While I don't go onto threads and bitch about setlists, I am skeptical about the crappy setlists of the last 10 years. And last's night was excellent, except for Can't Stop. I guess Dave knew a few people who needed to go to the restroom.
    I interpreted last nights version of Canít Stop as his relationship with the crowd. It has some fire and was angry. I also picked up on the emphasis during Nancies...Iíll play for you tonight, the thrill of it all.....

    I might have been high or existential or whatever but I really thought last night was a direct shot at fans that think they canít do that anymore.

    Smoke more weed, Turtle.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 05:24 PM   #40
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    like I said, I'm convinced people have fallen in love with seeing those letters on the almanac I'll take Two Step > Ants and DDTW > Seek Up every time over hearing some obscure song liberation like Beach Ball that 15 people care about in the audience.
    Yeah, but Beach Ball is a good song. Top 10 in the past decade.

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    IĎm not sure Iím ready to go that far, but with as many good to great songs and so few meh to bad songs itís hard to truly argue against it.

    Sure, the show lacked some of the more rare great songs or any bustouts, but thatís not the only factor in what makes a show great.
    Also, it's N1. Let's see what N2 has to offer
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    Old 07-06-2019, 05:38 PM   #41
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    Yeah, but Beach Ball is a good song. Top 10 in the past decade.



    Also, it's N1. Let's see what N2 has to offer
    There is nothing wrong with Beach Ball at all, I like it a lot....It's just a forgettable live song that no one really cares about. I'd rather hear DDTW for the 22nd time with everyone at the concert going nuts, than Beach Ball for the first time.


    Liberations are awesome when they're awesome songs. For every great song on that list, there is one that is terrible. I just want to hear great songs, It's not really that hard.
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    like I said, I'm convinced people have fallen in love with seeing those letters on the almanac I'll take Two Step > Ants and DDTW > Seek Up every time over hearing some obscure song liberation like Beach Ball that 15 people care about in the audience.
    I agree with this until you said Beach Ball. That is the best song from the Big Whiskey sessions and one that I would love to see live.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 08:19 PM   #43
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    I agree with this until you said Beach Ball. That is the best song from the Big Whiskey sessions and one that I would love to see live.
    I picked a random song to make a point. Angel, Mother Father, People People, Spotlight, Road, Blackjack, Everybody Wake Up, Eh Hee, Gaucho...turd after turd on that list The fuss over liberations never made sense to me. There are maybe 10 songs that I think should be liberated. Just play good songs...which is what they did last night.
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    I love People People, completely agree about preferring to continue seeing great songs as opposed to rare just for the sake of being rare though




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    I picked a random song to make a point. Angel, Mother Father, People People, Spotlight, Road, Blackjack, Everybody Wake Up, Eh Hee, Gaucho...turd after turd on that list The fuss over liberations never made sense to me. There are maybe 10 songs that I think should be liberated. Just play good songs...which is what they did last night.

    Few people are clamoring for any of those songs just for the sake of a liberation.

    Sweet Up and Down
    Busted Stuff
    Broken Things
    Spoon
    Pay for What You Get
    The Dreaming Tree
    Snow Outside
    Shotgun
    Cry Freedom
    Beach Ball
    Crazy Easy
    Joy Ride


    Those are songs that need to not be on that list. Like you said, about 10. And I don't want them just because they would be liberations. I want them because they are great songs. It's stupid that they're sitting on the shelf in the first place.
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    Old 07-06-2019, 08:58 PM   #46
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    That said, I'd much rather catch an Angel liberation over my 11th Can't Stop. Over my 56th Grey Street? Nope.
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    I donít understand what was so great about last night. It looks like a cookie-cutter ďgreatest hitsĒ setlist from any festival show 2008-2013.

    There were no awful runs of songs, yeah. But itís truly pathetic how THAT is the standard ďfansĒ of this band now hold them to. ďWell, half the show didnít outright suck, so yeah AWESOME SETLISTĒ

    For 2019, sure itís above average. And that in itself is saying how much this band has tanked in the last 6 years.

    How many times can you folks pay to hear grey st, dont drink and ants marching?? I just donít get it. 20+ times each was enough for me in one lifetime. Greatest hits singles stopped getting me excited at shows long, long ago
    No one gives a fuck about your opinion dude, you had the meltdown of the century ok here and have lost all credibility. Shut up and let people enjoy the band.
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    No one gives a fuck about your opinion dude, you had the meltdown of the century ok here and have lost all credibility. Shut up and let people enjoy the band.

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    it was good. It could be better.
    I donít think last night was the show to say ďwas good, couldíve been betterĒ

    That couldíve gone to Camden n2.
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    People are downplaying now great this tour has been
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    I picked a random song to make a point. Angel, Mother Father, People People, Spotlight, Road, Blackjack, Everybody Wake Up, Eh Hee, Gaucho...turd after turd on that list The fuss over liberations never made sense to me. There are maybe 10 songs that I think should be liberated. Just play good songs...which is what they did last night.
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    N1 was a solid show...albeit nothing special.

    Toysoldier still can't wrap his narrow mind around people not fawning over what he likes

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    Few people are clamoring for any of those songs just for the sake of a liberation.

    Sweet Up and Down
    Busted Stuff
    Broken Things
    Spoon
    Pay for What You Get
    The Dreaming Tree
    Snow Outside
    Shotgun
    Cry Freedom
    Beach Ball
    Crazy Easy
    Joy Ride


    Those are songs that need to not be on that list. Like you said, about 10. And I don't want them just because they would be liberations. I want them because they are great songs. It's stupid that they're sitting on the shelf in the first place.




    I totally agree. I would say that tonight was 2019 average. A very strong finish, but not enough to say anything more than average
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    A cover & Water Into Wine are the only "wow" moments for me. Camden N1, Deer Creek N2 & Riverbend are all higher for my personal flow
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    I loved night 1 back at Alpine! From the first song it was clear Dave came to play unlike the lackluster performances at Summerfest. Yes, repeated songs, but songs we all love and adore with their own little subtle changes. Itís about how his music makes us feel as he plays each song!
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    ...and then Alpine N2 comes along and we're back to meh
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    N1 had the flow
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    Oh wow, too bad i “have no credibility” with the fucking Dave Bro community ������������

    I’ll take that as a complement. God, how the fuck i ever enjoyed this fucking band or this crowd is baffling to me. What the fuck was i doing? This music sucks ass and you people paying for it- and lying to yourselves that it’s good or “improving since des moines” or whatever other horse shit- are just pure lazy sunday morning entertainment for me.

    Yeah, i checked the Alpine setlist. First Alpine weekend i totally skipped since before 2007. Once you all realize that Dave Matthews is an asshole who can’t sing for shit, you’ll get it. Grow the fuck up. You’re not in college in the 90’s anymore, BRO
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJ8WrKnLUs
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