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Old 03-15-2019, 11:04 PM   #136351
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Oh I don’t believe I ever said they did. All I said was agree with the fact that people are actually less safe with a gun. It’s because of this fact that I made the decision to not own one.
It’s not about what I think at all. It’s just what the truth is.
Yeah, you're failing there as well.

If you don't want a gun and your wife does, she doesn't have to tell you. You'ree obviously out of your element here. Which is okay. I've been there.

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    rich dudes just kinda fail upward huh
    Just look at all the people around Trump. Didn't Trump fail at water? 50 Cent made like $100 million dollars because he put sugar and food coloring in water.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:05 PM   #136353
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    If you're a good driver, you're not. That's the point.
    Lol, no. Just no.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:08 PM   #136354
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    People think the gun risk comes from outside the house but it's more from inside the house.

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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:08 PM   #136355
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    Yeah, you're failing there as well.

    If you don't want a gun and your wife does, she doesn't have to tell you.
    😂😂😂😂 I’m dying. If my wife wants a gun? Why would you even say this? What does that have to do with anything?
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:09 PM   #136356
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    Lol, no. Just no.
    Bad drivers cause accidents. (You're most likely one),
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:10 PM   #136357
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    😂😂😂😂 I’m dying. If my wife wants a gun? Why would you even say this? What does that have to do with anything?
    Ask your wife.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:12 PM   #136358
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    Here is a chilling stat.

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    When the Israeli Defense Forces stopped letting soldiers bring their guns home over the weekend, suicides fell 40 percent, primarily due to a drop in firearm suicides committed on weekends.
    https://www.vox.com/2015/10/1/18000516/suicide-guns
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:12 PM   #136359
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    rich dudes just kinda fail upward huh
    I am officially in the 5%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111


    Eat a dick, losers.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:15 PM   #136360
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    Yeah, you're failing there as well.

    If you don't want a gun and your wife does, she doesn't have to tell you. You'ree obviously out of your element here. Which is okay. I've been there.
    Out of my element? I had no idea. Please enlighten me. I’m always up for learning new things. I’d love to read the study done which states how much safer I am with a gun. And I’d love to read the study that says if I’m a good driver I’m safer on the road than I am flying.
    lol, and I’d love to read about whatever knowledge you have of my wife wanting to own a gun and keeping it a secret from me.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:15 PM   #136361
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    A study comparing abused women who survived with those killed by their abuser found that 51 percent of women who were killed had a gun in the house. By contrast, only 16 percent of women who survived lived in homes with guns.
    https://www.vox.com/2015/10/1/180005...estic-violence
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:17 PM   #136362
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    Ask your wife.
    😂 ask my wife what? I asked you why you said it. I should ask her why you said it? Is that a serious response? Or are we just being silly?
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:19 PM   #136363
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    Out of my element? I had no idea. Please enlighten me. I’m always up for learning new things. I’d love to read the study done which states how much safer I am with a gun. And I’d love to read the study that says if I’m a good driver I’m safer on the road than I am flying.
    lol, and I’d love to read about whatever knowledge you have of my wife wanting to own a gun and keeping it a secret from me.
    Here is the study in how guns work:

    1 Unknown bad guys coem to do something bad.....At least you have a gun. I'm not saying you're going to be Ethan Hunt or Jason Bourne but as least having a gun is SOMETHING. A GLIMMER OF HOPE.

    2 You own a gun and are killed by said gun. 99.99% of the time whoever killed you with your own gun knows you.

    This is really, really easy stuff.
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    tonight's rogmelt is living up to lofty expectations
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:20 PM   #136365
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    Bad drivers cause accidents. (You're most likely one),
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    😂 ok. I’ll try to improve.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:22 PM   #136366
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    😂 ask my wife what? I asked you why you said it. I should ask her why you said it? Is that a serious response? Or are we just being silly?
    I'm being a little silly because your posts do not make sensne.

    If you trust your wife to sleep next to you, then you should trust her with a gun. To say "I'm safer without a gun in my house" is to say I don't trust my wife.

    No way around that.

    AND, I'm not even saying you're wrong. As previously posted, Snapped is on its 26th season for a reason.
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    Here is the study in how guns work:

    1 Unknown bad guys coem to do something bad.....At least you have a gun. I'm not saying you're going to be Ethan Hunt or Jason Bourne but as least having a gun is SOMETHING. A GLIMMER OF HOPE.

    2 You own a gun and are killed by said gun. 99.99% of the time whoever killed you with your own gun knows you.

    This is really, really easy stuff.
    😂 oh my god, you’re hysterical. Ok. I’m good now. Thanks for schooling me up.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:24 PM   #136368
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    tonight's rogmelt is living up to lofty expectations
    Law dawg.

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    😂 ok. I’ll try to improve.
    Me and many others will appreciate your effort.
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    Here is the study in how guns work:

    1 Unknown bad guys coem to do something bad.....At least you have a gun. I'm not saying you're going to be Ethan Hunt or Jason Bourne but as least having a gun is SOMETHING. A GLIMMER OF HOPE.

    2 You own a gun and are killed by said gun. 99.99% of the time whoever killed you with your own gun knows you.

    This is really, really easy stuff.
    The odds are probably better than you shoot yourself either on purpose or by accident instead of you being shot by an intruder.

    I read that if you pull a gun on an intruder your likelihood of getting shot actually increases.

    In reality you should probably secure you doors and windows first before buying a gun thinking you are safer.

    My grandfather had a medical issue and the paramedics had to call the SWAT team and tell them to bust down the door.
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    Thanks for schooling me up.
    You're welcome. Like Drakan, I'm on your side.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:28 PM   #136371
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    My grandfather had a medical issue and the paramedics had to call the SWAT team and tell them to bust down the door.
    Is this like cool for your GF or cool for SWAT? I'm cool with praising either.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:29 PM   #136372
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    In reality you should probably secure you doors and windows first before buying a gun thinking you are safer.
    Yes, absolutely. I own properties and, despite video surveialance, I always tell tennnants that their best defense is keeping gates closed/locked.
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:32 PM   #136373
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    I'm being a little silly because your posts do not make sensne.

    If you trust your wife to sleep next to you, then you should trust her with a gun. To say "I'm safer without a gun in my house" is to say I don't trust my wife.

    No way around that.

    AND, I'm not even saying you're wrong. As previously posted, Snapped is on its 26th season for a reason.
    Trusting my wife has nothing to do with statistics. It’s just a fact that a family that has a gun in the home is more at risk of something bad happening than one without. For that reason, I don’t own one. If we would be safer with one, I would absolutely own one. Unfortunately that’s just not what it is.
    I completely understand that people feel safer with one. I get it. And I have nothing against anyone that feels that way. I have no desire to stop people from owning guns for protection or see legislation that would ban people from owning guns for protection. It’s a personal choice. And as counterintuitive as it may sound, owning that protection actually makes you less protected.
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    Trusting my wife has nothing to do with statistics. It’s just a fact that a family that has a gun in the home is more at risk of something bad happening than one without. For that reason, I don’t own one. If we would be safer with one, I would absolutely own one. Unfortunately that’s just not what it is.
    I completely understand that people feel safer with one. I get it. And I have nothing against anyone that feels that way. I have no desire to stop people from owning guns for protection or see legislation that would ban people from owning guns for protection. It’s a personal choice. And as counterintuitive as it may sound, owning that protection actually makes you less protected.
    Yeah, of course YOU would say that. The FACT is that 50% of marraiges result in divorce.

    GET IT YET????????!
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    Old 03-15-2019, 11:36 PM   #136375
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    Oh, and just to reiterate, not only do not I own a gun but I have never fired a gun.
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    Yeah, of course YOU would say that. The FACT is that 50% of marraiges result in divorce.

    GET IT YET????????!
    😂😂😂yes! I got it, I got it. She may already have one and may want to shoot me rather than divorce. I’ll pick one up tomorrow and keep it under my pillow just in case. I’ll grab a few for the kids too just in case
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    Yes, absolutely. I own properties and, despite video surveialance, I always tell tennnants that their best defense is keeping gates closed/locked.
    No, I am talking about people not being able to kick your door in. Most burglaries happen when someone simply kicks open the door. When I was little I could put my arm through the mail slot of our front door and unlock it. I've climbed in windows while locked out. One time in high school my brothers buddy came by when we were sitting in the living room and he just lifted up the screen and climbed in the window before we knew what was happening.
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    😂😂😂yes! I got it, I got it. She may already have one and may want to shoot me rather than divorce. I’ll pick one up tomorrow and keep it under my pillow just in case. I’ll grab a few for the kids too just in case
    So you think that statistics that dont' pertain to you or your family are garbage but others are important?

    I think you stepped into some shit here, bud.
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    Oh, and just to reiterate, not only do not I own a gun but I have never fired a gun.
    ya gotta feel that RUSH
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    Is this like cool for your GF or cool for SWAT? I'm cool with praising either.
    Cool for my grandfather because he had a door that you needed the SWAT team to break down. Not cool because he was passed out. He couldn't answer the door because he was passed out and his health aid freaked out when he didn't answer the door.

    That reminds me my neighbor down the street had the same thing happen. The home health aid was freaking out. The firefighters had to calm her down. The firefighters used a ladder to climb in the 2nd window I think. Maybe they were just checking to see if they could see her. I think they went in the 2nd floor window though.
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