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Old 06-26-2009, 12:11 AM   #121
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Didn't take long for people to start trying to cash in on this

http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jackson-...3%3A1|294%3A50


If that sells for that much, I'm selling mine. It's in better condition than his too.
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    Re: A Look At How Successful Michael Jackson Was.

    amazing. dude changed the face of music
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    Old 06-26-2009, 12:15 AM   #123
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    The man is an icon. Something we will probably never see again in our lifetime. Keith Richards is still holding strong though...
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    RIP MIKE! Will always be the musician that brought me into the beautiful world of music.
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    Old 06-26-2009, 12:31 AM   #125
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    If that sells for that much, I'm selling mine. It's in better condition than his too.
    No way it sells. I almost had one for 20 on amazon but by the time I checked out someone else had bought it. I just got my Vinyl player shipped to me and wouldn't mind having a Thriller vinyl. I'm not paying over 40 bucks though.
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    Michael Jackson was great. Fuck the haters.
    you wouldn't be saying that if you had spent any time at his mansion.


    ps - I Want You Back is my favorite Jackson/5 song.
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    No way it sells. I almost had one for 20 on amazon but by the time I checked out someone else had bought it. I just got my Vinyl player shipped to me and wouldn't mind having a Thriller vinyl. I'm not paying over 40 bucks though.

    they are a dime a dozen in used record stores. u can get one for 2 bucks easily.
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    no the BeaCH BOYS are responsible for pop music.


    but i get what you are saying, as an entertainer he had a dramatic effect. but as a musician? what did he do? write good pop music or expand music?
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    they are a dime a dozen in used record stores. u can get one for 2 bucks easily.
    I may take a ride tomorrow to Zia records and have a look. I hope you're right.
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    Old 06-26-2009, 12:54 AM   #130
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    I merged these two MJ threads, keep it all in one place.
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    Old 06-26-2009, 07:20 AM   #131
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    from bob lefsetz---

    He missed his childhood and now he's gonna miss his old age.

    How fucked up is that?

    Michael Jackson never had a chance. He had to succeed for his family, his parents' dreams were dependent upon him.

    And a boy with that much pressure delivers. He works truly hard, so he will be loved. That's all Michael Jackson was looking for, love.

    He wanted to be accepted. Wanted to be so good that he couldn't be denied. But you can't change family history, and the public no longer treats you as human, as an equal, once you break through. People want to rip you off or tear you down, or shower you in faux love that's more about their unfulfilled desires than yours. It gets so confusing that you retreat.

    The Jackson 5 broke through at the tail end of the sixties. When both Motown and Top Forty radio were in decline. But the burst of energy known as "I Want You Back" could not be denied. And the continuous singles made Michael Jackson a star.

    He sang a horror movie theme. He endured puberty. He was a faded child star. Then, suddenly, he released a dance floor epic. When disco was supposedly dead, Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones concocted a synthesis of rock and beats that could not be denied. Few were paying attention when "Off The Wall" was released. But over the course of two years, word spread. This was an album that could be played endlessly, that made you feel exuberant, totally alive. We didn't stop listening because we could never get enough.

    Then came "Thriller".

    There are indelible television moments. When there's only before and after. Michael Jackson's "Motown 25" moonwalk was one of those events. Akin to the landing of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the moon over a decade before. MTV was AOR. Dancing was something you saw on Broadway. Give Walter Yetnikoff credit, he forced MTV to play Michael Jackson and not only was the color barrier broken, not only did videos turn into extravaganzas, the biggest star since the Beatles was hatched, fifteen years after Michael had first gained public notoriety, years after he'd started performing. It's "Outliers" in action. Michael Jackson made it look easy. But there were far in excess of 10,000 hours involved. When everybody was finally paying attention, no one else was close. You had newbie bands from the U.K. who could barely sing, never mind play. And you had this phenomenon prancing on screen fully realized. It was like the 1927 Yankees playing a Little League team.

    And then it was over.

    There was another album with Q, but it was a step down. There's nowhere to go from the top but down. But Michael Jackson couldn't accept this. Everything had to be bigger and better. A musician's career can last forever. But to have those legs, you've got to have perspective. Existing at the center of the hurricane, unable to step outside the maelstrom, means that you have no frame of reference.

    Not that you can't buy one. Or that hucksters and shysters don't try to give you one. You trust everyone but know you can trust no one. You're a party of one. What means so much to everybody else means almost nothing to you. You don't want to give up your money and fame, but they don't buy you peace of mind, they don't buy you love, they don't keep you warm at night.

    It's been a sad movie that's been unspooling. We can delineate the low points. But let's just say it started with plastic surgery and it ended with court cases. Michael Jackson just didn't think he was good enough. And when he tried to explain, when he showed up in court in his pajamas, we didn't want to listen, we didn't want to give him a break, we just wanted to make fun of him, deride him.

    Michael Jackson was an entertainer until the very end.

    It's just that his latest gigs were not inside theatres, but played out on "investigative" television shows and gossip Websites. Everybody was living off Michael Jackson. He gave good ratings. He rescued the hoi polloi from a life of drudgery.

    But that's all over now.

    Sony can be thrilled that the digital marketplace insures there's endless inventory for those sitting shiva to buy. And they're going to end up with the Beatles catalog too. But we've lost something with the passing of Michael Jackson. A belief that America is a good-hearted place, a supportive place, where we want everybody to have a good life and be happy.

    Wonder about the price of fame? Just look at the miserable Jon & Kate. Never mind their eight children.

    We did this to Michael Jackson. And there wasn't a single person who could save him. He was too isolated.

    We'll remember where we were when we heard the news. But I'd rather remember that explosion emanating from the radio back in '69.

    Michael, we want you back! We want to see you moonwalk one more time! We want you to sing "Billie Jean"!

    Alas, that's impossible.

    As he once sang, "now it's much too late for me to take a second look."

    The king is dead.

    Long live the king.

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    He missed his childhood and now he's gonna miss his old age.
    This is so true. It's really too bad.
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    Good thread. All posts are really decent. MJ forever!

    I used to dance around my rocking horse when I was little using a Turkey baster as a microphone singing along to Thriller album. I love that record. Greatest performer of all time. Shit, my dad and I saw Captain EO like 10 times in a row during my first trip to Disney. Best short film of all time. R.I.P.
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    Re: Michael Jackson Appreciation Thread

    The threads got merged, but for those who didnt see some of these records and career highs.

    A Look At How Successful Michael Jackson Was

    DISCLAIMER: I am in no way approving of Michael Jackson's personal behavior. I'm only bringing how high this man was in the entertainment world to some people's attention who may have otherwise been unaware.


    Musical Accomplishments
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    Solo Album Rankings

    Off The Wall: 20 Million Sold Worldwide (7x Platinum - US)
    Thriller: 109 Million Sold Worldwide (28x Platinum - US)
    Bad: 30 Million Sold Worldwide (8x Platinum - US)
    Dangerous: 32 Million Sold Worldwide (7x Platinum - US)
    History: 20 Million Sold Worldwide (7x Platinum - US)
    Blood On The Dance Floor (Hybrid Remix Album) - 6 Million Sold Worldwide (1x Platinum - US)
    Invincible: 10 Million Sold Worldwide (2x Platinum - US)


    US Top 10 Hits

    1971: #4 Got To Be There
    1972: #2 Rockin Robin
    1972: #1 Ben
    1979: #1 Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
    1980: #1 Rock With You
    1980: #10 She's Out Of My Life
    1980: #10 Off The Wall
    1983: #2 The Girl Is Mine
    1983: #1 Billie Jean
    1983: #1 Beat It
    1983: #5 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin
    1984: #7 Human Nature
    1984: #10 P.Y.T.
    1983: #1 Say Say Say
    1985: #1 We Are The World
    1987: #1 I Just Can't Stop Loving You
    1987: #1 Bad
    1987: #1 The Way You Make Me Feel
    1988: #1 Man In The Mirror
    1988: #1 Dirty Diana
    1989: #7 Smooth Criminal
    1991: #1 Black Or White
    1992: #3 Remember The Time
    1992: #6 In The Closet
    1993: #7 Will You Be there (Free willy)
    1995: #5 Scream (feat. Janet Jackson)
    1995: #1 You Are Not Alone
    2001: #10 You Rock My world



    UK #1 Hits (in addition to those listed above)

    1981: One Day In Your Life
    1995: Earth song
    1997: Blood On The Dance Floor


    Thriller had 6 top ten hits. 2/3 of that Album was a top ten hit. Artists today are lucky if they get 3 top ten hits out of an album today.


    Music Video/Film Accomplishments
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    - Billie Jean - (Lighting effects unheard of, light up tiles etc.) Broke Color Barrier on MTV
    - Thriller - Revolutionized the music video into a short film.
    - Bad - (jump started Wesley Snipes career)
    - Black Or White - 1st Video effects of their kind, face morphing seen later in movies like Harry Potter
    - Remember the Time - more video effects, 1st of their kind, Eddie Murphy/Magic Johnson cameo
    - Jam - Michael Jordan/Kriss Kross cameo
    - In the Closet - Naombi Cambell cameo
    - Scream - Most Expensive Music Video Ever - Janet Jackson cameo - more effects never seen before


    Dance
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    - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBLxh3u0tM
    - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDXgSfOz_X8

    Misc. Records

    - Jackson has supported more charities than any other pop singer - 39 charitable organizations either with monetary donations through sponsorships of their projects or the participation in their activities. The charities involved include AIDS Project L.A., American Cancer Society, BMI Foundation, Inc., Childhelp USA, United Negro College Fund, YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw, The Sickle Cell Research Fund and Volunteers of America.
    - Jackson's "Bad World Tour" (1987–1989) was the highest-grossing tour ever at the time, with over $125 million earned. This record was later broken by the "Dangerous World Tour" (1992-1993) and later broken again by the "HIStory World Tour" (1996-1997), which is still the biggest tour ever in terms of international attendance (4.4 million tickets outside of USA).
    - On November 14, 1991, Michael Jackson’s music video, Black or White was broadcast simultaneously in 27 countries with an estimated audience of 500 million people. It is the largest audience ever to view a music video.
    - In 1986 Jackson signed a $15 million deal with Pepsi - it was the largest ever endorsement for product promotion.
    - Jackson jointly holds the record for most Grammy Awards won in a single year. He won eight awards at the 1984 ceremony.
    - Jackson jointly holds the record for most American Music Awards won in a single year, winning eight awards at the 1984 ceremony. This was equaled by Whitney Houston at the 1994 ceremony.
    - Jackson holds the record for winning more Billboard awards than any other male artist, having 26.
    - The fastest ticket sales in history, with 700,000 tickets sold in about four hours for the cancelled "This Is It" tour in 2009.
    - 135 million people watched as Michael Jackson performed during the halftime celebration of Superbowl XXVII. It is the most watched television appearance ever.



    Today the last of the Big 3 of the music world has left us. (The Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson)
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    Music Video/Film Accomplishments
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    - Jam - Michael Jordan/Kriss Kross cameo
    Heavy D too.
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    that article really touched me and all of his accomplishments are remarkable. it should be illegal for children to be stars because they dont have a real identity and its hard to find yourself i bet. most of them take years off away from the media trying to find out who they really are.
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    Old 06-26-2009, 11:10 AM   #137
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    This thread is a lot nicer. Can we focus on the positive here??
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    Re: Michael Jackson Appreciation Thread

    I mentioned this in the super-cool ants+ section, but how great of choices did MJ make musically?


    He had the best producers, writers, musicians. That's not just happenstance - he knew what he was doing. When you think about it, he never really had a dud of an album. The majority of his later stuff (post legal issues) came with a tainted view.


    I'd still put him #3 all time behind the Beatles, and Elvis. But he's a solid #3 in my book.


    I do hope that he doesn't become a joke as Elvis has since his death. Not that he's not a freak, I mean in a musical sense. Elvis is more often mocked than praised today, and that's unfortunate.
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    Great points, Jake. And I agree about your ranking. I think he's definitely tied with Elvis, though, when talking about American musical icons.
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    I do hope that he doesn't become a joke as Elvis has since his death.

    Well, considering you used every joke in the book about him in the other thread, maybe people will see that the jokes are played out and youll be right


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    I agree with your statements above.....but Id have an at least an ounce of respect for them without the comments you put out yesterday.

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    Well, considering you used every joke in the book about him in the other thread, maybe people will see that the jokes are played out and youll be right




    I agree with your statements above.....but Id have an at least an ounce of respect for them without the comments you put out yesterday.
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    I was listening to SCREAM this morning. One of his very underrated songs/duets.
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    Well, considering you used every joke in the book about him in the other thread, maybe people will see that the jokes are played out and youll be right




    I agree with your statements above.....but Id have an at least an ounce of respect for them without the comments you put out yesterday.
    So I can tell the MJ Miller Lite joke because I think he's the 3rd most important of the 20th century? come on... you know that's crazy.


    the guy was a fucking perv, but we're talking about music here.
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    So I can tell the MJ Miller Lite joke because I think he's the 3rd most important of the 20th century? come on... you know that's crazy.


    the guy was a fucking alleged pedo, but we're talking about music here.
    fixed that for you lol.
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    Re: Michael Jackson Appreciation Thread

    Cant deny that he was most likely a perv, and led a bizarro lifestyle....but in my opinion, it doesnt take away from him as a musician, so I wouldnt be making the jokes about him.

    Back on topic....Billie Jean came on the radio this morning, and my kids loved it.
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    Great points, Jake. And I agree about your ranking. I think he's definitely tied with Elvis, though, when talking about American musical icons.
    No, Elvis is above all.
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    Cant deny that he was most likely a perv, and led a bizarro lifestyle....but in my opinion, it doesnt take away from him as a musician, so I wouldnt be making the jokes about him.

    Back on topic....Billie Jean came on the radio this morning, and my kids loved it.
    Billie Jean is probably the best song on Thriller, which is really saying something.
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    So I can tell the MJ Miller Lite joke because I think he's the 3rd most important of the 20th century? come on... you know that's crazy.


    the guy was a fucking perv, but we're talking about music here.
    I know, it's sad that people are trying to whitewash his life... is it really that hard to appreciate the music without worshiping the guy? I've lost a lot of respect for many people in this forum after this.
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    Re: Michael Jackson Appreciation Thread

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    So I can tell the MJ Miller Lite joke because I think he's the 3rd most important of the 20th century? come on... you know that's crazy.


    the guy was a fucking perv, but we're talking about music here.
    But thats the problem Jake. In MOST of your posts about the music, you have to mention that he is a perv. Just not appropriate.
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