Which Dave & Friends show from the 2003-04 run do you want released?

[Dodo36]

Originally Posted by WhereYouGoin

It'd have to be Madison Square Garden.
EVERYONE at least once releases something from Madison Square Garden.

Wasn't the James Brown show from the Garden '02 released as a live trax?

[snow1868]

Originally Posted by WhereYouGoin

It'd have to be Madison Square Garden.
EVERYONE at least once releases something from Madison Square Garden.

DMB has two releases from MSG, a DMBLive from the 96 tour and LT40.

[vkratliff]

Originally Posted by Dodo36

It's not as complicated as all that. The cover songs would count as covers and because almost all of these had been covered and released by someone else already, it'd be a compulsory, industry set rate on all of these. There's nothing to to be figured out as far as the songs go.

My guess would be that they don't release them because it wasn't DMB or D&T OR that they just haven't explored the rights issues of the performers under that wonderful 'so-and-so appears courtesy of blah-blah records' clause. Not because it's hard or costly, but because it requires actually doing something more. I doubt Brady or Tony would have that issue, but possibly Trey might (I haven't looked into any of their contract structures, but a higher profile appearances can get weird on the back end). That's my suspicion on why The Nauts never materialized, but again never cared enough to look into it. OR Dave just doesn't want to chum the waters with Stefan. Not because he's afraid of what he'd do, but probably just doesn't want to hear it.

More than likely it's because it seems like extra to those that would be putting it together, and they just blow it off because it requires doing something more. That's the impression I get from a lot of business decisions surrounding this band.

Could someone explain the bold? I've been a fan since '95 and went to one of the shows on this tour (Philly), and this is the first I've heard of this. Did Some Devil create some bad blood with Stefan?

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by vkratliff

Could someone explain the bold? I've been a fan since '95 and went to one of the shows on this tour (Philly), and this is the first I've heard of this. Did Some Devil create some bad blood with Stefan?

At the time, Fonz said, "It's Dave and Friends. I guess I'm not one of his friends?" or something like that

[vkratliff]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

At the time, Fonz said, "It's Dave and Friends. I guess I'm not one of his friends?" or something like that

Thanks! Wow. It makes sense, I guess, but I don't know how I missed this back then.

Really, though, that lineup was great. I wouldn't have wanted it permanent or anything, but I loved how they captured that album (which is phenomenal) and that mix of cover songs. It's one of the Dave shows I've seen that really stands out as something special over all these years.

[WhereYouGoin]

Originally Posted by Dodo36

Wasn't the James Brown show from the Garden '02 released as a live trax?

Yes. I'm talking about how many people have released things from the Garden more than once (Billy Joel, DMB, Bruce Springsteen, Phish, Elton, Barbra Streisand, The Who, Neil Diamond).
It's a trend in the popular music industry to release something recorded at Madison Square Garden more than once in a career.

[WhereYouGoin]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

At the time, Fonz said, "It's Dave and Friends. I guess I'm not one of his friends?" or something like that

In an interview around November/December 2003 Dave made an analogy that DMB is his family and D&F is his friends.

[willndmb]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

At the time, Fonz said, "It's Dave and Friends. I guess I'm not one of his friends?" or something like that

Originally Posted by WhereYouGoin

In an interview around November/December 2003 Dave made an analogy that DMB is his family and D&F is his friends.

At the time Fonz also made a comment about when Dave is ready to come back to the big leagues he knows where the band is

[Dodo36]

Originally Posted by willndmb

At the time Fonz also made a comment about when Dave is ready to come back to the big leagues he knows where the band is

It was a sore point for awhile.

And never take an interview smoothing over statement as fact. Of course Dave was going to reference that in as a gracious of a way as possible, regardless of how the band dynamics were actually strained. To the press, he always takes the bigger man approach. I believe he always arrives there in his mind, though it may not happen as fast as early as the interviews happen.

Fonzi, on the other hand, has always been quick to say what was on his mind, damn the perception. If it sounds snarky, it probably is.

[vkratliff]

It also had to rub at least one bandmate wrong that one of Dave's best albums is sandwiched between the band's two worst albums. That would bug the hell out of me.

[prdstmnky36]

Originally Posted by vkratliff

It also had to rub at least one bandmate wrong that one of Dave's best albums is sandwiched between the band's two worst albums. That would bug the hell out of me.

Busted Stuff?

[vkratliff]

Originally Posted by prdstmnky36

Busted Stuff?

I count that as pre-Everyday, since most of those songs were from the Lillywhite Sessions.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by vkratliff

I count that as pre-Everyday, since most of those songs were from the Lillywhite Sessions.

It wasn't, though.

[vkratliff]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

It wasn't, though.

Come on, guys. Can we stop with the obtuse semantics?

Yes, Busted Stuff literally came after Everyday. I know that. I'm talking about when the songs were written, and most of them were written during the Lillywhite Session (which came before Everyday).

Now is when someone is going to say "But 'Everyday' was '#36'!" But come on. You know what I mean. Some Devil came between the compositions of their two worst albums. My point is that if I were Stefan, I'd be salty about that.

[willndmb]

Originally Posted by vkratliff

Come on, guys. Can we stop with the obtuse semantics?

Yes, Busted Stuff literally came after Everyday. I know that. I'm talking about when the songs were written, and most of them were written during the Lillywhite Session (which came before Everyday).

Now is when someone is going to say "But 'Everyday' was '#36'!" But come on. You know what I mean. Some Devil came between the compositions of their two worst albums. My point is that if I were Stefan, I'd be salty about that.

Agreed and BS wouldn’t exist if not for the leak

[Dodo36]

Originally Posted by vkratliff

I count that as pre-Everyday, since most of those songs were from the Lillywhite Sessions.

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

It wasn't, though.

Originally Posted by vkratliff

Come on, guys. Can we stop with the obtuse semantics?

Yes, Busted Stuff literally came after Everyday. I know that. I'm talking about when the songs were written, and most of them were written during the Lillywhite Session (which came before Everyday).

Now is when someone is going to say "But 'Everyday' was '#36'!" But come on. You know what I mean. Some Devil came between the compositions of their two worst albums. My point is that if I were Stefan, I'd be salty about that.

Some Devil's advocate here... Raven, Busted Stuff, and KKJ might as well have been new since they were completely overhauled. YNK & WAYG were new. Half the album was essentially new.

But by that thinking, then when does CT come from ... ?

[WhereYouGoin]

Originally Posted by Dodo36

Some Devil's advocate here... Raven, Busted Stuff, and KKJ might as well have been new since they were completely overhauled. YNK & WAYG were new. Half the album was essentially new.

But by that thinking, then when does CT come from ... ?

Some of it’s 2006-07 some is around 2013-15. It was recorded around late 2017-early 2018.

[bmddmb]

12/17 or 1/16. Would love releases of SUAD, Fool in the Rain, Can't You Hear Me Knocking and Oh Sister.

[Twostep542]

MSG!!! Please!!!

[WhereYouGoin]

Originally Posted by Twostep542

MSG!!! Please!!!

Totally MSG is THE place to release live material from in popular music.