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Old 07-23-2018, 12:13 PM   #93391
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People who leave college now still aren't even mature enough for the real world. Childhood has been extended way beyond it's means. If 18 now is different than say 20 years ago that would correlate to 22 being different as well.
I don't disagree

Seems like a case for 6 years of undergrad!
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    People who leave college now still aren't even mature enough for the real world. Childhood has been extended way beyond it's means. If 18 now is different than say 20 years ago that would correlate to 22 being different as well.
    Eh, too much of a blanket statement for me. There's still plenty of highly successful and driven young people.

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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:15 PM   #93393
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    Cats fucking blow.
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:15 PM   #93394
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    Backread yesterday’s circle jerk after my accurate post that the best countries to live in are all highly capitalist. If you want a capitalist country with more social programs, fine. But that isn’t democratic socialism. Literally took me 15 minutes reading their platform online to realize that.
    You prob shouldn't be telling people to backread
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    Cats fucking blow.
    There's not even a debate here. Cats suck and anyone that says anything different is fake news. I bet Tucker Carlson fucking loves cats.
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:18 PM   #93396
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    Cats are the damned best. Loyal, cute, and they're trained to not shit on your floor from day 1
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:18 PM   #93397
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    A large part of the Milos 2020 campaign will be MACA - Make America Catless Again!!
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:19 PM   #93398
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    Marvich doesn’t know what socialism actually means. I’m stunned.
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:20 PM   #93399
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    Cats are the damned best. Loyal, cute, and they're trained to not shit on your floor from day 1
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:20 PM   #93400
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    A large part of the Milos 2020 campaign will be MACA - Make America Catless Again!!
    I hope Cazzie 2020 is pro-cat. Otherwise I'm throwing my vote to Gary Pawnson.
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:22 PM   #93401
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    I love how black and white everything is for some of you.
    Honestly, I would say that for 80 percent of the electorate everything is black and white. Libs say red, cons say blue - rarely wavers. It is the remaining 20 percent who are willing to look for that shade of gray and see both sides of an issue and that is why that 20 percent is generally the swing vote in any election. Sadly I see it getting worse for years before it gets better, we are so polarized nowadays that people seem to think conceding even the slightest point is a step backwards. Worse that mindset is not confined to politicians, it is in the media and the population so until some dramatic event happens I do not see people being able to reach across the political isle to do what is best for our nation rather than what is best for their political mindset.
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    Tony Podesta NOT among 5 immunized witnesses to testify against Paul Manafort, as Tucker Carlson had originally claimed

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-manafort.html

    I wonder when Fox News will make their correction.
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    Cats are great.

    Permanent daylight saving time.

    No taxes. No cuts to gov services except as below.

    Abolishing electoral college. Making house of representatives actually representative (Wyoming rule)

    Get rid of all welfare programs and replace with universal basic income.

    Penalize employers who employ illegals.

    Strong unions.

    Vote for me.

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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:24 PM   #93404
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    Something worth noting is that many of these countries attained their wealth through capitalist means and are now really spending it via socialism. Which is nice while the money is around, but the migrant crisis may have a severe impact on that. Also funny that these economies reside in area where the culture and people are largely homogenous. Are we striving for that too?
    To the bold, refer to my previous comment about how segments of our (U.S.) society hold others in contempt, which I agree makes it difficult to implement socialist policies. Why do we have so much contempt in U.S. society compared to other more homogeneous societies where socialist policies are more widely accepted?
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    Old 07-23-2018, 12:28 PM   #93405
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    To the bold, refer to my previous comment about how segments of our (U.S.) society hold others in contempt, which I agree makes it difficult to implement socialist policies. Why do we have so much contempt in U.S. society compared to other more homogeneous societies where socialist policies are more widely accepted?
    I'm not sure you want to go down this road.
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    Cats are the damned best. Loyal, cute, and they're trained to not shit on your floor from day 1
    So we're just going to ignore basically shitting from their mouth on the floor?

    Dogs are loyal as well, and much more cute.
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    Do you run the club or do the licenses run the club? Last I checked, lincenses couldn't make sure the bathroom is clean. It's just a piece of paper.
    This dumb post is almost not worth responding to, but....

    Do you have any idea how many things in any public place are checked on multiple times a year? Building code, fire inspections, health dept, etc. Hell, we have to pay someone every 6 months to check and make sure our fire extinguisher works.

    And based on how many people/businesses get busted for trying to skirt some of these things proves that businesses will forgo lots of things to save money.

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    I hope Cazzie 2020 is pro-cat. Otherwise I'm throwing my vote to Gary Pawnson.
    20214 - KACA - Keep America Catless Always!!

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    Cats are great.

    Permanent daylight saving time.

    No taxes. No cuts to gov services except as below.

    Abolishing electoral college. Making house of representatives actually representative (Wyoming rule)

    Get rid of all welfare programs and replace with universal basic income.

    Penalize employers who employ illegals.

    Strong unions.

    Vote for me.
    How's the bold fit in with the rest of your platform? Feel like you're going to need more cuts to push this "no taxes" agenda.
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    Question about UBI, if someone blows their money on dumb stuff, what happens then?
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    I'm not sure you want to go down this road.
    Agreed, but the contempt that our segments of society have for each other is the cause of a lot of our problems. We need to work on fixing that and not by making us more homogeneous (border walls, racist immigration policies, etc.). We need more empathy. If we were more accepting of each other, it would solve a lot of our social problems.
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    This dumb post is almost not worth responding to, but....

    Do you have any idea how many things in any public place are checked on multiple times a year? Building code, fire inspections, health dept, etc. Hell, we have to pay someone every 6 months to check and make sure our fire extinguisher works.

    And based on how many people/businesses get busted for trying to skirt some of these things proves that businesses will forgo lots of things to save money.
    Yes, I understand. I just think a lot of them are stupid and just there to make money for the government, nothing more.

    My overall point was that, if you run the club, would you be doing those things or not? Would your bathroooms be disgusting, food cold, kitchen unclean? Or, would you be running the club like a proper club?
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    Question about UBI, if someone blows their money on dumb stuff, what happens then?
    This is where that "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" mentality comes in. Your comment goes down the path of drug testing welfare recipients and we saw how that went. Yes, a very small segment of people in need will do things with government money that were not intended. However, that doesn't mean all people who use government benefits needs to be punished or that we need to get rid of government benefits completely.

    Also, it depends on what they are wasting the money on. Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol? Let's focus on treatment and education. There are things we can do to help curb poor use of that money without cracking down on the people who are using it to improve their lives.

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    Question about UBI, if someone blows their money on dumb stuff, what happens then?
    Additional safety nets, especialy for the kids type stuff.
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    Agreed, but the contempt that our segments of society have for each other is the cause of a lot of our problems. We need to work on fixing that and not by making us more homogeneous (border walls, racist immigration policies, etc.). We need more empathy. If we were more accepting of each other, it would solve a lot of our social problems.
    Yeah, I disagree. Things like Dunbar's number and in group preference are biological constructs that have unfortunate side effects. I'm not sure people can just evolve out of that in a generation. It would be ideal though.
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    This is where that "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" mentality comes in. Your comment goes down the path of drug testing welfare recipients and we saw how that went. Yes, a very small segment of people in need will do things with government money that were not intended. However, that doesn't mean all people who use government benefits needs to be punished or that we need to get rid of government benefits completely.
    Wouldn't your first sentence be a good reason to just continue with capitalism with minor social policies the way we have? It's worked pretty well.
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    Question about UBI, if someone blows their money on dumb stuff, what happens then?
    I think they then get elected to congress
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    I'm not sure you want to go down this road.
    Because one group in our country has spend the past 300-400 years trying to keep the other group down. First it was slavery, then Jim Crow, etc. I don't feel like there is a unified effort in our country to help one another (especially when the other person might be a different shade of skin color than you). There is also a mindset in our country that one group has to profit off another group.
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    College isn't for everyone. There are a lot of people making great livings without a degree.
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    So we're just going to ignore basically shitting from their mouth on the floor?

    Dogs are loyal as well, and much more cute.
    My dog does that too when she's not feeling well or something occasionally.

    And my dog is well house-trained but is more likely to shit or piss on the floor than the cats (litter box 100% of the time) if we neglect to let her out after too long.
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    Wouldn't your first sentence be a good reason to just continue with capitalism with minor social policies the way we have? It's worked pretty well.
    I'm not advocating full socialism at all. I think simple things need to be done to keep some guard rails on capitalism like better protections for workers and we need to do more to promote programs that will really benefit people like universal health care and policies that promote better home life like tax breaks for child daycare and things like that. Capitalism has had more power than it can responsibly use since the 1970's. It needs to be reigned in somewhat, not eliminated.
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