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Old 04-28-2021, 11:25 AM   #59071
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i didn’t see a ton of the Sacramento losses but i saw a bunch of their other games— Dallas is just not very good against pick and roll heavy teams with shooters. Sacramento has been a top 10 offense all year with Fox and Haliburton going downhill and finding guys. you pretty much have to out score them to beat them which isn’t hard on paper, but impossible if you miss the open shots they concede

i say Dallas defense is mostly good against inside out offense, where Doncic and Porzingis have to do less work. i’d say they’re more prepared for a Denver, Clippers, or Lakers than they are for a Phoenix or Utah. not enough mobility to guard either leg of the pick and roll. the saving grace is if Porzingis is played off the floor in a long series you have Kleber at the small five, for the most part he can survive out on the perimeter if switched out. and if Powell truly is capable of 10-15 minutes of backup five that would be huge, but i’m skeptical of his abilities this year
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    no Walker or Williams, but yeah still a bad loss. Fournier looks like COVID did a number on him too

    i mean at this point their depth is their depth. what can ya do. at least it’s not bad as Toronto’s depth lolz just gotta pray the 8-9 man rotation is healthy in the play in

    Robert Williams, Brown, Tatum, Walker, Smart, Thompson, Fournier, Pritchard, Grant Williams. i don’t see how you can remotely trust Ojeleye, Kornet, Langford, or Nesmith in an important game

    Their main problem isn't their depth, it just isn't
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    Old 04-28-2021, 12:36 PM   #59073
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    i’d say it’s their underlying main problem. their season literally hinges on Walker and Williams being available, healthy, and at their peak because they don’t have a backup 1 or 5 they can trust in a long series, much less a 3/4

    we can play Stephen A Smith and throw around words like “soft” but i’d rather judge using my eyes tbh. no one was calling the team soft on their winning streak. they lack talent and playoff ready players
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    Old 04-28-2021, 12:41 PM   #59074
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    i’d say it’s their underlying main problem. their season literally hinges on Walker and Williams being available, healthy, and at their peak because they don’t have a backup 1 or 5 they can trust in a long series, much less a 3/4

    we can play Stephen A Smith and throw around words like “soft” but i’d rather judge using my eyes tbh. no one was calling the team soft on their winning streak. they lack talent and playoff ready players

    Your eyes should show you that they completely tune out their coach and their best player requires a tweet from a former Celtic to be motivated, even if they were fully healthy they don't have any players that are leaders with a killer instinct. There is no KG type mentality, it is their biggest issue and they will not win anything significant until that changes.
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    Old 04-28-2021, 01:10 PM   #59075
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    lucky for them there’s no such thing as a killer instinct lmao. sometimes stars are good in big games and sometimes they aren’t. Tatum has shown in the past that he can show up when it matters so that’s the least of my worries.

    i haven’t been in many NBA huddles lately so i don’t know much about tuning out coaches, but they seem to be running similar stuff on both ends so...

    do i wish they ran more pick and roll with Tatum and Brown- sure. when they do it’s not bad, but they don’t have the shooters to run it every down, even with Williams getting better at finishing at the rim

    do i wish they played Grant Williams at the five more, sure, but he’s so inept offensively there’s no way that’s an option more than 15 minutes a game. i also wish Tristan Thompson could string together more than 2 good games but he’s just not at that level anymore

    Walker literally had to be schemed around to be stopped last year in the second round. when he played remotely close to that level this year they looked like a good playoff team. all-nba level play at the 1 has always been key to their success so we’ll see, but they also have no one else to fill that role if he’s not well

    all of the above can be pointed to roster versatility and depth issues
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    Old 04-28-2021, 01:19 PM   #59076
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    Teams with great leadership definitely give up 41 points in the fourth quarter at home to a G league roster this time of year, if only Grant Williams played at the five more they'd have all the intangibles.
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    Old 04-28-2021, 01:35 PM   #59077
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    i mean, yeah- if he had the talent to play at the 5 more that would mean he’d be a much better player. better players wouldve been great last night against Oklahoma City! no amount of leadership makes this team’s roster better (or healthier)

    i don’t remember a lot people saying “wow i wish this team had good leadership” when they were two games away from the finals. leadership/killer instinct are fun ESPN buzz words that create bs agendas because “gee this team isnt healthy enough or talented enough this year” is too boring
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    Old 04-28-2021, 01:38 PM   #59078
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    Dr. J doesn't have Lebron on his top 10 all time because - according to Dr. J - Lebron started the Superteams. Someone should introduce Dr. J to Moses Malone - they'd play really well together. And then revoke any honorary degrees he might have - he also doesn't have Jordan on his all time starting 5.

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    i mean, yeah- if he had the talent to play at the 5 more that would mean he’d be a much better player. better players wouldve been great last night against Oklahoma City! no amount of leadership makes this team’s roster better (or healthier)

    i don’t remember a lot people saying “wow i wish this team had good leadership” when they were two games away from the finals. leadership/killer instinct are fun ESPN buzz words that create bs agendas because “gee this team isnt healthy enough or talented enough this year” is too boring

    The roster is more talented than their record indicates, more talented than giving up 41 last night, lack of leadership and drive has everything to do with why they are where they are.
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    Old 04-28-2021, 01:46 PM   #59080
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    Dr. J doesn't have Lebron on his top 10 all time because - according to Dr. J - Lebron started the Superteams. Someone should introduce Dr. J to Moses Malone - they'd play really well together. And then revoke any honorary degrees he might have - he also doesn't have Jordan on his all time starting 5.

    https://www.complex.com/sports/juliu...time-nba-teams
    i mean, old NBA players are all haters and frankly dumb when it comes to evaluating the modern game, so this is nothing new tbh
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    Old 04-28-2021, 01:49 PM   #59081
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    Dumb reason to not include a guy in your top 10. Also a valid point, though.
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    Old 04-28-2021, 01:50 PM   #59082
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    Mike Gorman, Celtics play-by-play commentator since 1981 who is usually not critical on the team, here is what his eyes tell him:

    https://985thesportshub.com/2021/04/...ltics-leaders/
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    Old 04-28-2021, 02:01 PM   #59083
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    The roster is more talented than their record indicates, more talented than giving up 41 last night, lack of leadership and drive has everything to do with why they are where they are.
    definitely one of the worst losses of the season, but their three most important players weren’t playing. what i am concerned about during this slide is Walker and Williams’ availability, Grant Williams decreasing minutes, and the ineptness of their bench still. Kornet and Pritchard being literally calcified on pnr defense. Ty Jerome is a decent pnr guard but he looked like the fastest dude in the league. Romeo Langford getting lost on every defensive play was sad too. and in the Charlotte game, the limitations of their offense against athletic switching teams. those are way bigger concerns than whatever leadership narrative can be projected on it

    unless of course that leadership is Danny Ainge which has been a big part of my argument all along tbh
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    Old 04-28-2021, 02:03 PM   #59084
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    Mike Gorman, Celtics play-by-play commentator since 1981 who is usually not critical on the team, here is what his eyes tell him:

    https://985thesportshub.com/2021/04/...ltics-leaders/
    again, buzzwords. where were these concerns in the conference finals? i’d like to see his thoughts on Kornet and Langford’s defense, or Tristan Thompson’s lack of talent, or all their covid issues, or Ainge’s draft foibles
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    Old 04-28-2021, 02:04 PM   #59085
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    Excuses are unreal, just completely negating any thought that their record and play could be tied to leadership, okay then
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    and if the criticism of Boston is Brown and Tatum, i think you’re missing the point of the whole league. you draft those guys 10 times out of 10. not their fault Anthony Davis didn’t wanna come tbh
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    Excuses are unreal, just completely negating any thought that their record and play could be tied to leadership, okay then
    yup! because it’s a randomly throw around buzzword. when LeBron James plays with Sasha Pavlovic he’s a bad leader, when it’s with Anthony Davis he’s a great leader. when Boston is constantly in the conference finals there’s no worries about leadership, when there’s a down year all of a sudden leadership stinks. group think is dumb tbh
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    and if the criticism of Boston is Brown and Tatum, i think you’re missing the point of the whole league. you draft those guys 10 times out of 10. not their fault Anthony Davis didn’t wanna come tbh

    I'm sure you are more informed about the Boston Celtics than Mike Gorman
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    Old 04-28-2021, 02:11 PM   #59089
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    nope, but he probably only watches/cares about one team so his philosophy is gonna be different. he most likely isn’t wrong but if that’s how people evaluate teams i tune them out. haven’t heard too much “Jimmy Butler isn’t a leader” this year, or “oh wow Donovan Mitchell is a good leader” because the word is pretty much useless
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    Leadership being useless in sports is quite the take. Of course you draft Brown and Tatum for their talent, the issue is they can't get the team focused consistently, they'd have to bring someone in who gives them that.
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    Celtic leadership was great in the first half
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    i don’t understand why ESPN blocks some Lakers games in my region and some not. ridiculous. Amazon just buy out all the regional networks and fix this please

    White out for the season (most likely according to Popovich) but we are still holding up well against Miami

    Spoelstra is really leaning into these Dedmon lineups lol. looks like he’s gained 20 pounds but he’s definitely more of a brute inside now
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    Portland recovering nicely after a shitty 3 or 4 week stretch. would be a huge win if they hold on against Memphis

    Denver without Murray continues to look...really really good. helps that New Orleans looks like they’re ready to lay down and die
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    Incredible fourth quarter. This team!
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    i missed it bc i’ve been watching way too much of them what happened
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    Kinda farted around in the 2nd and 3rd quarters and then just put the absolute clamps on in the fourth
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    Watchin Suns/Clippers

    Kind of nice to see Phoenix having their first really good season since Nash years. My first pro basketball game was in Phoenix. Briefly lived there while I was in elementary school. Those were the Starbury years. Not great years but I remember when they drafted Amare. I made my mom take me to stand in line at a bar that Amare was signing autographs at and then the dude left after like 30 minutes, long before my turn to get an autograph. Still bitter about that .
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    Dr. J doesn't have Lebron on his top 10 all time because - according to Dr. J - Lebron started the Superteams. Someone should introduce Dr. J to Moses Malone - they'd play really well together. And then revoke any honorary degrees he might have - he also doesn't have Jordan on his all time starting 5.

    https://www.complex.com/sports/juliu...time-nba-teams
    Let alone the fact Shaq would break Wilt like a toothpick his lists are fucking terrible. That saddens me.
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    Kind of nice to see Phoenix having their first really good season since Nash years. My first pro basketball game was in Phoenix. Briefly lived there while I was in elementary school. Those were the Starbury years. Not great years but I remember when they drafted Amare. I made my mom take me to stand in line at a bar that Amare was signing autographs at and then the dude left after like 30 minutes, long before my turn to get an autograph. Still bitter about that .
    that was such a fun team. plus marion and chandler. I went to a few games in phoenix during that era, cause my family would always take a vacation in arizona in spring (don't really remember why). I still have the dan majerle bobblehead I got one night during a promotion
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    catching up on last night

    happy for Phoenix but the center rotation is concerning, that was a lot of Kaminsky, and Saric has been great earlier this year but not sure he’d be much better in the playoffs. nice to see Phoenix score comfortably against another good defense though

    Rondo has been so good. Mann is incredible at times, could be a playoff xfactor


    poor Williamson...wasted a really good year. Stan Van Gundy really isn’t the guy for this team. along with some of the moves this is almost unforgivable for Griffin. this is must win game after must win game they’re dropping due to just inept guard play and coaching
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