The NHL Thread

[TMoore4075]

Anyway see the Robidas leg incident? I'm asking for how nasty is it? Do I want to watch it, or will I cringe like nothing else?

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

also, i'm never complimenting a player again

after praising matt cooke yesterday he goes all ovechkin on me with a knee-on-knee

damn

I'm right there with you, buddy. Not a week ago, I was lauding his "maturity" and ability to "change" while still being an effective player. And the crazy thing is, he WAS doing all those things. Last night, he was incredibly effective in helping shut down the MacKinnon line. Too bad for him that he just took a major step backwards after appearing to make so much progress... but I have a hard time feeling bad for him.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

I'm right there with you, buddy. Not a week ago, I was lauding his "maturity" and ability to "change" while still being an effective player. And the crazy thing is, he WAS doing all those things. Last night, he was incredibly effective in helping shut down the MacKinnon line. Too bad for him that he just took a major step backwards after appearing to make so much progress... but I have a hard time feeling bad for him.

yea i can't feel bad for the guy anymore, it's just such a shame after 3 whole years of clean play he throws it all away basically

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

I'm right there with you, buddy. Not a week ago, I was lauding his "maturity" and ability to "change" while still being an effective player. And the crazy thing is, he WAS doing all those things. Last night, he was incredibly effective in helping shut down the MacKinnon line. Too bad for him that he just took a major step backwards after appearing to make so much progress... but I have a hard time feeling bad for him.

So no date night for Matty and Matt anytime soon huh?

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea i can't feel bad for the guy anymore, it's just such a shame after 3 whole years of clean play he throws it all away basically

Exactly. Starting back at sqaure one.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

So no date night for Matty and Matt anytime soon huh?

Why do I always go for the bad boys?

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

Anyway see the Robidas leg incident? I'm asking for how nasty is it? Do I want to watch it, or will I cringe like nothing else?

It's not something you'll want to watch over and over again, but it's not terrible (to watch).

Couldn't happen to a better guy though. Robidas is such a warrior... the exact type of player I want my kids to watch and emulate. You have to worry about his career at this point. It's too bad and I hope he can pull through.

[TMoore4075]

No Alfie tonight...crap. He hasn't done much but is always dangerous out there. Would rather have him than not.

[fonzz41]

O'Reilly on his way to his first Byng

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads

[barbogast]

http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks...of-my-respect/

Jackets fans for the win

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by barbogast

http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks...of-my-respect/

Jackets fans for the win

that's pretty clever

i'll be sure to throw a beak on the next Union soldier i see

[Bron Yr Aur]

Matt Cooke hit isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Yeah it's a dangerous play but he is clearly leading with the shoulder when Barrie avoids the upper body contact and the knees end up colliding. Dangerous play for sure as he is leading with the left leg like that but....if this wasn't Cooke I don't think it would even be discussed as a suspension.

[Bron Yr Aur]

That said...it's Matt Cooke. SO yeah. Don't know why teams continue to employ him.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur

Matt Cooke hit isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Yeah it's a dangerous play but he is clearly leading with the shoulder when Barrie avoids the upper body contact and the knees end up colliding. Dangerous play for sure as he is leading with the left leg like that but....if this wasn't Cooke I don't think it would even be discussed as a suspension.

i don't think the bolded is true at all

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur

Matt Cooke hit isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Yeah it's a dangerous play but he is clearly leading with the shoulder when Barrie avoids the upper body contact and the knees end up colliding. Dangerous play for sure as he is leading with the left leg like that but....if this wasn't Cooke I don't think it would even be discussed as a suspension.

No. Sorry for the image quality, but this is not leading with his shoulder. The knee doesn't even come out until it becomes apparent Barrie is going to make a move around him. Cooke is trying to get any part of his body in the way, and that's where he goes wrong.

When you're going for an open ice hit like that and it becomes apparent the guy is going to get around you, you can do one of two things:
1) Go for the hip check. Hard to change body positioning that quickly, but it's certainly safer.
2) Change tactics completely and go for the puck instead of the body.

Matt Cooke knows as well as anybody that you CANNOT stick your knee out like that. YOU CANNOT.

I agree that it's getting more buzz because, like you said, it's Matt Cooke. He knows better.

Video I took the image from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qmQHevtAJA

[TMoore4075]

Yeah that's dangerous and stupid no matter who does it. I'm sure it's getting more press cause of who it is but he should because he's continued to do this stuff. This isn't my three year old doing something after being punished for it, it's an adult.

[Bron Yr Aur]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

No. Sorry for the image quality, but this is not leading with his shoulder. The knee doesn't even come out until it becomes apparent Barrie is going to make a move around him. Cooke is trying to get any part of his body in the way, and that's where he goes wrong.

When you're going for an open ice hit like that and it becomes apparent the guy is going to get around you, you can do one of two things:
1) Go for the hip check. Hard to change body positioning that quickly, but it's certainly safer.
2) Change tactics completely and go for the puck instead of the body.

Matt Cooke knows as well as anybody that you CANNOT stick your knee out like that. YOU CANNOT.

I agree that it's getting more buzz because, like you said, it's Matt Cooke. He knows better.

Video I took the image from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qmQHevtAJA

The TSN guy says it all...he is trying to make a shoulder to shoulder but for some reason he is leading with the knee. Guess it's just Matt Cooke habit, or he really is trying to injure the guy. Whatever, I still don't understand why this guy continues to get a job in the NHL.

[aeroshady]

So Hank is taking a beating here in NY Sports talk over game two. Can't wait to see how things go in game 3.

Btw I back read this thread....while it makes me laugh that I pissed off all the Flyers fan with my comment about "real playoff hockey," I was actually being literal in that the Ducks game has been the only playoff game I have been able to watch any significant amount of because of my schedule haha. Hope to watch game 3 tonight, but it is not looking good. Game 4 will probably be the first game I get to watch the majority of.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

Yeah that's dangerous and stupid no matter who does it. I'm sure it's getting more press cause of who it is but he should because he's continued to do this stuff. This isn't my three year old doing something after being punished for it, it's an adult.

Yeah, any hockey player who's played for any amount of time knows this is a no-no.

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur

The TSN guy says it all...he is trying to make a shoulder to shoulder but for some reason he is leading with the knee. Guess it's just Matt Cooke habit, or he really is trying to injure the guy. Whatever, I still don't understand why this guy continues to get a job in the NHL.

Could be Matt Cooke habit like you said.

The sad thing is he's an effective player when he focuses on actually playing hockey. He was arguably the Wild's best last night, all over the ice, making clean hits and playing well defensively. The Wild made an adjustment trying him out against MacKinnon, and look how many points Mac got compared to the previous two games. In short, Matt Cooke is a good player... I don't know what causes him to do these incredibly dumb plays.

But yeah, Marty, you have to wonder how much longer teams will take a chance on him.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur

Matt Cooke hit isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Yeah it's a dangerous play but he is clearly leading with the shoulder when Barrie avoids the upper body contact and the knees end up colliding. Dangerous play for sure as he is leading with the left leg like that but....if this wasn't Cooke I don't think it would even be discussed as a suspension.

I don't know about you but when I skate (the few times I do) I don't do it with my knee turned out like Cooke did there. Easily a dirty play and sure it's being made more a deal because of who it is, but that's his own fault. You have a history of being dirty it won't go away after a few years of not being a bonehead

[Bron Yr Aur]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

Yeah, any hockey player who's played for any amount of time knows this is a no-no.

Could be Matt Cooke habit like you said.

The sad thing is he's an effective player when he focuses on actually playing hockey. He was arguably the Wild's best last night, all over the ice, making clean hits and playing well defensively. The Wild made an adjustment trying him out against MacKinnon, and look how many points Mac got compared to the previous two games. In short, Matt Cooke is a good player... I don't know what causes him to do these incredibly dumb plays.

But yeah, Marty, you have to wonder how much longer teams will take a chance on him.

Yeah I mean he also threw an elbow at MacKinnon last night, too, so.....

...fact is, you don't need this kind of player in the NHL. Just unnecessary, should be banned from the league. He's not so effective that the league wouldn't be better off without him.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by aeroshady

So Hank is taking a beating here in NY Sports talk over game two. Can't wait to see how things go in game 3.

Btw I back read this thread....while it makes me laugh that I pissed off all the Flyers fan with my comment about "real playoff hockey," I was actually being literal in that the Ducks game has been the only playoff game I have been able to watch any significant amount of because of my schedule haha. Hope to watch game 3 tonight, but it is not looking good. Game 4 will probably be the first game I get to watch the majority of.

Hank and the Rangers have been playing great so far, your sports radio is dumb. Also, the shot was perfect, intentional or not. As the reigning Sean Avery recipient I approve

[unccrombie]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Hank and the Rangers have been playing great so far, your sports radio is dumb. Also, the shot was perfect, intentional or not. As the reigning Sean Avery recipient I approve

rangers played awful hockey for 1.5/6 periods and it cost them a game. I, for one, am not worried.

[TMoore4075]

Cooke gets an in-person hearing. So it could be 5 or more...it's gonna be a long suspension I think.

[~Crashintome89~]

I don't think the Rangers have been bad at all. This is going at series. Should be intersting how Berube handles the lineups with last change. It's pretty clear he wants Giroux away from Girardi and McDonut.

[JRS1386]

I think the last change should help them get going early. I just hope Hartnell will stop blocking Girouxs shots

[Brohan_Santana]

Since the Caps aren't in the playoffs re-watching old playoffs series highlights. The 2009 Caps/Pens Semi series was so good. Forgot how Varly was standing on his head most of the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qun0jtArMa8

[lockman21]

Well, guess I might as well go tomorrow too. UC was incredible last night.

[lockman21]

http://deadspin.com/we-are-all-cryin...kid-1566107742 #jackets

[JRS1386]

Holy crap it's Becs

[TMoore4075]

Poor kid. I wanted to cry when the Wings lost to the Ava in 96. As I've gotten older I yell and get pissed instead.