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Old 02-01-2014, 07:17 AM   #91
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Lyrically of course it's not but baby blue is the most over rated song on these boards. It's ok on the album but one I would never care too see live.
I can agree with this....it's a nice little song by Dave with a lot of meaning, but not one I care to see at a show. Would easily be in the bottom 5 songs for me between these 2 albums.
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    So many love the first album released after they became a fan

    It's the only reason big whiskey has fans
    Not so much.

    Um, not the only reason

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    Old 02-01-2014, 10:33 AM   #93
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    Lyrically of course it's not but baby blue is the most over rated song on these boards. It's ok on the album but one I would never care too see live.
    Saw Baby Blue E1 in Concord and it was absolutely gorgeous. Easily a top 3 song between AFTW and BW for me.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 10:38 AM   #94
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    So many love the first album released after they became a fan
    I think people are more forgiving of the album that got them into the band than the first one released after it.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 06:09 PM   #95
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    Saw Baby Blue E1 in Concord and it was absolutely gorgeous. Easily a top 3 song between AFTW and BW for me.
    E1 I wouldn't mind better then a lot of E1 choices but when I saw it during a set it's an absolute show killer and chatter starter.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 06:12 PM   #96
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    Baby Blue is tragically overrated.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 06:13 PM   #97
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    I think people are more forgiving of the album that got them into the band than the first one released after it.
    This is true to a degree
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    Old 02-01-2014, 07:26 PM   #98
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    E1 I wouldn't mind better then a lot of E1 choices but when I saw it during a set it's an absolute show killer and chatter starter.
    That can be said for alot of solid songs, but I still want to see them played regardless.

    And I feel that people misuse the term "overrated." Just because a song is enjoyed by the majority, that doesn't make it overrated. If a great number of people were claiming "This is the greatest song Dave's ever written" or if the song was consistently being brought up in conversations about top ten songs and whatnot, a person could make the case that it was "overrated." As it stands, I feel Baby Blue is a quietly appreciated song most people enjoy.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 08:19 PM   #99
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    Re: Big Whiskey vs Away From the World in 2014

    Baby blue is the best thing about bw. If it was never played again that'd be a big blow. The rest you can toss into the trash though
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    Old 02-01-2014, 08:43 PM   #100
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    Re: Big Whiskey vs Away From the World in 2014

    Sister is a better song than Baby Blue.

    Baby Blue is rare, and about Roi, so of course it's much more beloved.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 09:26 PM   #101
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    Sister is a better song than Baby Blue.

    Baby Blue is rare, and about Roi, so of course it's much more beloved.
    Highly agree with the bolded.

    I actually think that Sister and Baby Blue are pretty comparable songs. The fact that the one is about a very personal relationship Dave shares with his sister and the other is a tribute to Roi, with whom almost all of us feel/felt a connection, results in people fawning over BB while completely dismissing Sister. And, of course, the fact that Sister has been played 3x as often as BB doesn't help the former's case.
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    Highly agree with the bolded.

    I actually think that Sister and Baby Blue are pretty comparable songs. The fact that the one is about a very personal relationship Dave shares with his sister and the other is a tribute to Roi, with whom almost all of us feel/felt a connection, results in people fawning over BB while completely dismissing Sister. And, of course, the fact that Sister has been played 3x as often as BB doesn't help the former's case.
    Really? The guy just played sax. A shame what happened, but come on. Hard to feel a connection with someone you've never met.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 09:36 PM   #103
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    Highly agree with the bolded.

    I actually think that Sister and Baby Blue are pretty comparable songs. The fact that the one is about a very personal relationship Dave shares with his sister and the other is a tribute to Roi, with whom almost all of us feel/felt a connection, results in people fawning over BB while completely dismissing Sister. And, of course, the fact that Sister has been played 3x as often as BB doesn't help the former's case.




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    Old 02-01-2014, 09:40 PM   #104
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    Really? The guy just played sax. A shame what happened, but come on. Hard to feel a connection with someone you've never met.


    There are different levels of connection.


    I have a host of memories associated with that man and his music. I didn't know him personally, but I did feel connected to him in a way.


    I'll never pretend like his death affected me like the death of someone in my family did/will, but I also won't say that his passing meant nothing to me. And I definitely wouldn't say that all he did was play sax...
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    Old 02-01-2014, 10:03 PM   #105
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    Really? The guy just played sax. A shame what happened, but come on. Hard to feel a connection with someone you've never met.
    Honestly, I didn't fully grasp the connection I had with Roi until after his passing. In hindsight, I think that I may have taken him, along with the entire band, for granted. Before his death, I simply viewed Roi as the smooth, soulful sax player in my favorite band. Afterward, I realized that his music--along with that of the other bandmates--had played a major role in my everyday life for quite some time. With that in mind, it was hard not to be affected when one of the key contributors to that music was suddenly ripped from my grasp. His death really floored me, and I'll be the first to admit that I didn't expect to have such an emotional response.

    The same thing happened more recently with James Gandolfini. The Sopranos is probably my favorite television series of all time (if not, it's definitely up there), and I just did not see his death coming at all. When I finally processed what had happened, the influence of that series really...I don't know, "materialized," for lack of a better word.
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    There are different levels of connection.


    I have a host of memories associated with that man and his music. I didn't know him personally, but I did feel connected to him in a way.


    I'll never pretend like his death affected me like the death of someone in my family did/will, but I also won't say that his passing meant nothing to me. And I definitely wouldn't say that all he did was play sax...
    not sure why you even bothered.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 11:13 PM   #107
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    To me, the two can't be compared. The band was in two entirely separate places and state of minds. I do however appreciate both albums. It's amazing how much DMB is sharpened by a producer. Two different producers and two completely different albums.
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    Old 02-01-2014, 11:50 PM   #108
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    Easily AFTW
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    Old 02-02-2014, 07:26 AM   #109
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    AFTW is better in almost every way
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    Old 02-02-2014, 07:38 AM   #110
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    Highly prefer neither.
    However, there are 4 listenable songs on BW compared to the 1 on AFTW.
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    Old 02-02-2014, 09:26 AM   #111
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    BW would have been better with a different producer. It also has the most tragically overrated DMB song ever. That being said its a really nice/solid album.

    Some people's opinions about BW I also think are shaped by what came before it.
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    Old 02-03-2014, 12:53 PM   #112
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    I think it's interesting how divided fans are on BW and AFTW. Compared to the Big 3 (universally beloved), tLWS/BS (beloved/generally respected), ED (generally respected, though sometimes hated), and SU (generally hated, sometimes tolerated). While there will never be a 100% consensus on a subjective opinion, most of DMB's catalog hovers around the same general feeling among fans, whether good or bad.

    BW and AFTW, however, seem to split the fandom in half with many folks saying they love one album and generally hate the other. Even the more level-minded folks who appreciate most things from the band seem to select only a few songs from either BW or AFTW and deem them "listenable."

    Is DMB's best days behind them? Or are many fans (hardcore forum ones voting here, essentially) just too stubborn to move forward with the band?
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    Old 02-03-2014, 01:42 PM   #113
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    I like hearing new stuff. A lot of people on here just aren't willing to accept the new stuff. The band has evolved and will continue to do so until they hang it up. All the bands stuff takes time to grow on me. Even the mighty BTCS took a year or two for me to fully appreciate it. I like Big Whiskey better now than AFTW mostly because AFTW is suffering from some serious under exposure by the band.
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    Old 02-03-2014, 01:50 PM   #114
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    BW would have been better with a different producer.
    Totally agree.
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    Old 02-03-2014, 02:24 PM   #115
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    Sister is a better song than Baby Blue.
    I feel like, musically, they're basically the same song.
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    Re: Big Whiskey vs Away From the World in 2014

    Big whiskey is a good record, but for me it was missing that organic DMB feel. Even the big three which were heavy on the production side still managed to capture the essence of DMB. My favorite production effort is still busted stuff, due to the lack of production. That album sounds like they just hopped in a room and played it straight through live with no frills, and I absolutely love it. AFTW has a good mix of both production vs less production.
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    Old 02-03-2014, 05:41 PM   #117
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    BWGK has no illusions about what it's trying to be. It's a muscular, rockier take on Dave Matthews Band's signature sound and material. It's also a nice final tribute to Roi.

    AFTW is grasping at straws, trying desperately to recreate a sound and a style that used to come to them without effort. It wants to revisit past glory so bad it winds up feeling like a pose.
    well put, IMO. I voted Big Whiskey; it feels more genuine and unforced. I appreciate the lyrics more, and perhaps the story surrounding the band when it was released. AFTW just doesn't do much for me.
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    100% Big Whiskey
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    Old 04-18-2014, 11:05 PM   #119
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    You know how we know AFTW is special?

    The band hardly plays it
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    Nick gets it.


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