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Old 07-01-2020, 12:54 PM   #257311
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Dang hope Rog is alright.
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    I don’t care if Trump’s approval goes up as a result of this, I’d gladly take another stimulus check

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...e-four-package
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    You can't retroactively correlate the number of cases with the number of deaths back in March. 40% of deaths back then were from people in nursing homes. They were hit hard and fast. It's not as simple as just extrapolating and going "See, 750k cases a day!".

    It's why numbers that proven health organizations and statisticians are saying don't even come close.
    Then how do you suggest we measure progress?
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    May Milos win the next set against whatever he's battling.
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    Then how do you suggest we measure progress?
    Correlate the number of deaths to the number of cases about a month prior, since deaths is a lagging indicator.
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    Trump says he's not sure a mandate is needed, but "I'm all for masks," and would wear one "in a tight situation with people." He says "I sort of liked the way I looked" one time he wore one, it was okay -- "like the Lone Ranger."


    https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/12...039894529?s=21
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    I don’t care if Trump’s approval goes up as a result of this, I’d gladly take another stimulus check

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...e-four-package
    Ugh... I don't want another stimulus. Put a fucking mask on dummy so your dummy followers will realize it's a good idea so we can all just go back the fuck to work and regular life!
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    Trump says he's not sure a mandate is needed, but "I'm all for masks," and would wear one "in a tight situation with people." He says "I sort of liked the way I looked" one time he wore one, it was okay -- "like the Lone Ranger."


    https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/12...039894529?s=21
    It’s a start I guess
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    Trump says he's not sure a mandate is needed, but "I'm all for masks," and would wear one "in a tight situation with people." He says "I sort of liked the way I looked" one time he wore one, it was okay -- "like the Lone Ranger."


    https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/12...039894529?s=21
    Well, hey now... there's a start.
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    I don’t care if Trump’s approval goes up as a result of this, I’d gladly take another stimulus check

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...e-four-package
    "We want to create a great incentive to work (with a stimulus package)."

    Contain Covid...there's a fucking incentive, you fucking moron.
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    Not trying to be nosy but do we know the nature of the professor’s medical issues? Like how severe? Hope he’s ok.
    he had surgery to remove cancer on his vocal chords:

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    Had surgery to remove cancer on my vocal cords on Monday and was back in gorcery stores doing Instacart on Wednesday.

    Y'all can say what you want but I will never ask anyone to do anything that I'm not willing to do. If people are that worried about COVID-19, that's cool. I'll go out and do what you're not comfortable doing. So yeah....I'll sign. I've been "sick" going on my 5th month now.

    Any other brain busters, Lee?

    I really hope he comes out of this okay. sending all the good vibes to roger
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    Old 07-01-2020, 01:11 PM   #257322
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    Trump really is missing a great campaign opportunity with masks. Sell “Trump” masks on your campaign store, they can be the new MAGA hat.
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    Well, hey now... there's a start.


    Now just make them mandatory at your rallies
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    Trump really is missing a great campaign opportunity with masks. Sell “Trump” masks on your campaign store, they can be the new MAGA hat.


    Wasn’t one of his idiot lackeys wearing an official KAG one a few weeks ago?
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    Trump really is missing a great campaign opportunity with masks. Sell “Trump” masks on your campaign store, they can be the new MAGA hat.
    Whaddya got, masks? MAGAmasks!

    Whaddya got, disinfectant spray? MAGAspray!

    Whaddya got, pork chops? MAGAchops!


    Why don't you back off, MAGA man...
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    Trump really is missing a great campaign opportunity with masks. Sell “Trump” masks on your campaign store, they can be the new MAGA hat.
    David frums tweet thread from May 12 really sums it up though:

    Plainly, it makes no logical sense to say

    a) I want to reopen the economy fast

    but also

    b) I oppose the safety measures - including masks - that enable fast re-opening. 1/x

    Yet many people are saying exactly that.

    They must have some reason more powerful than logic - and they do.

    2/x

    The mask blazons right across the face: "The Trump administration failed. Massively. They said they had this virus under control. Instead, it raged so far out of control that we've had to remake our way of life."

    The mask strings an accusation from ear to ear. 3/x

    You can see why people who previously used their mouths to hail Trump would not wish to cover their mouths with a symbol of his failure. It's a matter of identity, a MAGA hat in reverse. 4/x

    The trouble is that by rejecting the hated symbol of Trump failure, they risk aggravating the reality of that failure: another virus spike, even tighter lockdowns.

    They have to choose between symbols and realities. 5/x

    People are meaning-craving animals. Symbols communicating meaning. Very understandably, many, many Trump supporters interpret the mask to mean, "I was wrong."

    Which is true. They were wrong, and that's what it does mean. 6/x

    That in turn means it's very unlikely that we will achieve the voluntary social compliance required to make masking effective. (80% is the figure I hear a lot, I have no idea whether it is correct).

    So either local police forces must write a lot of $50 tickets, or ... 7/x

    ... or we have to face, as argued in the thread that follows this one, that very deep forces in US society condemn Americans to a future in which many, many people will get sick and die in ways easy to prevent. 8/x

    As Harvard's @maya_sen has written, "Anyone who thinks that Americans won’t stomach a daily drip of preventable deaths hasn’t been following gun control debates." 9/x

    https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status...610386432?s=19
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    don't give a shit who takes credit, I'd love another stim check
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    Wasn’t one of his idiot lackeys wearing an official KAG one a few weeks ago?
    Yeah but I didn’t see it on the store, I checked.

    They have an “Irish Americans for Trump” pint set though, as well as a “Polish Americans for Trump” button
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    Didn't Moscow Mitch say the stimulus checks that went out were a mistake and that the Senate wouldn't approve another round?
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    Didn't Moscow Mitch say the stimulus checks that went out were a mistake and that the Senate wouldn't approve another round?
    That was the incremental $600/wk in UE insurance
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    my favorite muskie comment on the virus was this one:

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    Here we shut down drive thru testing on Friday because there wasn’t any demand for it. We’re now basically just testing symptomatic people and using the surplus of tests to test everyone they can in a high risk situation or job. That means we’re going to have an increase in positive cases and positive test percentage without any community spread.
    thinking that only testing those in a high risk situations or jobs means no community spread is a top tier galaxy brain take.
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    I'm gonna de-sugarcoat this.



    There are a fuck load of stupid people who lack empathy in the world, especially this country.


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    I think often in here we talk about Trump supporters drinking the Kool Aid and never addressing any of the critics with an actual defense of our President. We sit here and wonder why this happens and how someone could be so resistant to hearing out the facts and changing their stance on something.



    It may be a naïve opinion of mine but I think this phenomena boils down to human nature. I think there is a sizable percentage of people who are intellectually incapable of admitting they were wrong. I think their common sense tells them they are wrong but they can't give into the other side. It only infuriates them more when the dissenters bring up facts to back up their claims. It boils down to 'well yeah, you're right but I can't stand that you're right and it only makes me hate you more'. Except they will never admit they were wrong. They just know deep down that they are. And that's why its not even worth trying to get them to see the light. You may think you're doing them a favor but you're only driving them to harbor a deeper hatred of people and their 'facts'.

    It’s also a mental health thing. In the range of 2 to 20% of the population are narcissists or some form of similar issue like Borderline personality disorder. The exact numbers vary depending on which psychological study or psychologist you are listening to or reading about.

    Never admitting a person is wrong is a primary trait of these types of people. It’s also why they rarely have self awareness and do nothing about addressing their affliction. This also makes the number of them tough to pin down and could be much higher due to the lack of official diagnoses. The official amount diagnosed is below 1%.


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    Yeah but I didn’t see it on the store, I checked.

    They have an “Irish Americans for Trump” pint set though, as well as a “Polish Americans for Trump” button
    Irish Americans For Trump
    Latinos For Trump
    Women For Trump
    Polish Americans For Trump
    Asian Pacific Americans For Trump
    Black Voices For Trump

    Is the last one merchandise for these people?

    https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/...ortrump_fb.jpg

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    Should be the name of Rog's biography.
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    my favorite muskie comment on the virus was this one:



    thinking that only testing those in a high risk situations or jobs means no community spread is a top tier galaxy brain take.
    It’s like saying “I didn’t take the temperature of New York City, so they had no weather today”.
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    It’s like saying “I didn’t take the temperature of New York City, so they had no weather today”.
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    Good luck, Rog!
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    Yale/NIH study Covid deaths likely way underreported.

    "The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19% higher, than what would normally be expected, according to the researchers. Of the 122,300 excess deaths, 95,235 were attributed to Covid-19, they said. Most of the rest of the excess deaths, researchers said, were likely related to or directly caused by the coronavirus."

    ...

    "The number of excess deaths from any causes were 28% higher than the official tally of U.S. Covid-19 deaths during those months. The researchers noted the increase in excess deaths in many states trailed an increase in outpatient visits from people reporting an “influenza-like illness.” "



    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/offi...udy-finds.html
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    he had surgery to remove cancer on his vocal chords:




    I really hope he comes out of this okay. sending all the good vibes to roger

    Oh lawd! I missed that. Best wishes to Rog!
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    Peak death was around a rolling average of 2000 per day.

    You’re looking at 750k cases per day using at .26 or 500k at .4.
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    If their estimate is correct, that means over 12 million New Yorkers got COVID. That’s over half their population.

    In fact, forget about the entire state. New York City had 22,500 deaths. If the .26% fatality rate was true, that means 8,653,846 people in New York City got COVID. Which is more than their total population
    I'd still like an answer to this. Could the death rate really be so low that the number of cases in NYC exceed their entire population?
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