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Old 03-24-2019, 03:30 PM   #1
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I was listening to Symphony 3 by Brahms and thought it sounded familiar until it finally clicked, Love of My Life by Santana, Dave, Carter & Co.

I youtube it, and it turns out Santana did in fact get inspiration from this Symphony for that melody:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCpvp2LDsWY
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    Nice find. I love that song. I wish they'd play it even without Santana
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    Old 03-24-2019, 03:42 PM   #3
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    Nice find. I love that song. I wish they'd play it even without Santana

    Thanks, I commend my ear for picking that out! . Do you think Tim could do the song justice? Santana's signature tone makes that work!
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    I was listening to Symphony 3 by Brahms and thought it sounded familiar until it finally clicked, Love of My Life by Santana, Dave, Carter & Co.

    I youtube it, and it turns out Santana did in fact get inspiration from this Symphony for that melody:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCpvp2LDsWY
    What is the line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." It sounds to me like the exact same riff. Not that it matters
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    Old 03-24-2019, 06:11 PM   #5
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    What is the line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." It sounds to me like the exact same riff. Not that it matters
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    What is the line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." It sounds to me like the exact same riff. Not that it matters
    same thoughts here
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    Thanks, I commend my ear for picking that out! . Do you think Tim could do the song justice? Santana's signature tone makes that work!
    It's worth a shot. Santana has such a legendary tone, though. It would be tough.

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    What is the line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." It sounds to me like the exact same riff. Not that it matters
    As long as the artist gives credit to the inspiration I think it's fine.
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    It's worth a shot. Santana has such a legendary tone, though. It would be tough.



    As long as the artist gives credit to the inspiration I think it's fine.
    And based on what I've read, Santana discusses this openly in public though it's not stated in the notes of the booklet.
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    Led Zeppelin does this and are called thieves . I think the age of the music has something to do it.
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    Led Zeppelin does this and are called thieves . I think the age of the music has something to do it.
    Age has nothing to do with it legally, and some really do look down on Zeppelin for what they did.

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    The thing is, this music has become public domain. Many artists use classical pieces and melodies
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    We should also point out that Brahm's piece is really lovely...with or without Santana did with it over 100 years later.
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    Copyright is life of author/creator plus +75 years. This music is now public domain and Carlos noted where he got as soon as Supernatural came out. That said, I distinctly remember him naming the wrong piece, but it was corrected.
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    Led Zeppelin does this and are called thieves . I think the age of the music has something to do it.
    Zeppelin did it during the life of artists and without giving credit. They paid quite a bit for it as well. There is no legal case for infringing upon public domain...

    Personally, I think ownership should pass down to and through the family in perpetuity...despite the obvious difficulties that would arise as time passes. There would always be someone claiming to be family and wanting ownership so they can profit from the art. But the lack of ownership is a huge part of why philharmonics and orchestras play classical music...they can do so freely. Commissioning a piece or playing a piece by a living composer is very expensive.
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    Age has nothing to do with it legally, and some really do look down on Zeppelin for what they did.
    Yes it does, again copyright is the life of author/creator plus 75 years. Zeppelin stealing from artists and songs written 20 or 30 years before Page claimed he "wrote" a song had an actual case against the band and Willie Dixon won and still undisclosed sum. The folks stuff they copped was from the traditional canon of folk tunes from the British Isles and most of it was also public domain.

    Age plays a HUGE part in the legality of using music created by others and getting paid for it.
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    inspiration/plagiarism... Sure, it's all fun and games until Johannes Brahms rises from the dead: "Give me meine royalties, bitch!"
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    Santana and Zeppelin are apples and oranges. Comparing them is silly.
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    Santana and Zeppelin are apples and oranges. Comparing them is silly.
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    Yes it does, again copyright is the life of author/creator plus 75 years. Zeppelin stealing from artists and songs written 20 or 30 years before Page claimed he "wrote" a song had an actual case against the band and Willie Dixon won and still undisclosed sum. The folks stuff they copped was from the traditional canon of folk tunes from the British Isles and most of it was also public domain.

    Age plays a HUGE part in the legality of using music created by others and getting paid for it.
    Thanks for the correction! I just assumed, and felt certain too, that it didn't matter.
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