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Old 09-26-2011, 01:56 AM   #1
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Appreciation for setlists from 2010 - Present

I understand there is a lot of complaining around here about setlists being predictable/boring/etc recently, but I think the band has really reacted in 2010 and 2011 to bring it setlist wise like they haven't done in a while.

First, we have to accept that Stand Up and Big Whiskey exist... so we will hear those songs. We can't go back and look at 2004 sets and expect them anymore.

But let's look at the facts:

In the 2010 summer tour, 2010 fall tour, and 2011 Caravan tour, we've seen the following songs:


2010 tour:

Halloween
Cry Freedom played 4 or 5 times
Sweet Up and Down
Instrumental Intro to One Sweet World
Kit Kat Jam
I'l Back You Up
Good Good Time
Cortez
Lie In Our Graves
Grace Is Gone
Big Eyed Fish
Seek Up
Lover Lay Down
Beach Ball
Sleep To Dream Her
Fool To Think
Recently/Water Wine Jam
Pig
The Stone
Minarets
Dreaming Tree
Busted Stuff
If I Had It All

2010 Fall Tour:

Last Stop (at almost every show)
Minarets
Halloween
Spoon
Long Black Veil
Song Jane Likes
Christmas Song
What You Are
What Would You Say

And at the Caravan (13 shows + 4 Dave & Tim shows), they played:

Rhyme and Reason
the Maker
Loving Wings
Raven
Captain
Baby Blue
Blue Water
Seek Up
Dive In (hey, I love it!)
Angel From Montgomery
Drive In Drive Out
Best of Whats Around
Kill the King
Joyride
The Stone
Halloween
Cortez the Killer
#40 partial
Say Goodbye
ABI/American Baby
Break Free
Shotgun
Oh
Typical Situation

I tried not to repeat songs from tour to tour, as a lot of the songs overlap. But I remember being around in 2007 and 2008 and 2009... and to think I'd be able to hear some of these songs would have just been a dream. I heard Cry Freedom 3 times, SPOON, Last Stop, Halloween 2 times, Pig 2 times, the Stone 3 times, I heard Big Eyed Fish segue into 3 different songs, etc .... how amazing is that???

Just to make this clear: Captain, Spoon, Last Stop, Raven, Halloween, IBYU, Cry Freedom, Good Good Time, Minarets, Sweet Up and Down... these are songs from a dream set.

If I'm not mistaken the band played over 100 unique songs in the 2010 summer tour. (the almanac is down or I'd check). But please, by all means, be appreciative! Be happy!

This band is really trying to mix it up to please us hardcore fans... and doing a damn good job
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    They mix it up better for sure. The fact that they are playing Halloween sometimes along is enough to thrill me.

    In terms of the actual setlists, I'd say they are inconsistent. Most of the sets are ok to pretty good, with some great ones thrown in, usually for N2.
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    Lover lay down was played what? 2 times in 2010?
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    Lover lay down was played what? 2 times in 2010?
    Would you rather they not play it at all?

    OP, add JTR to that 2010 list
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    Im a huge DMB fan,as well as U2 and PJ.U2,always play 95% the same setlist each night.Here and there,yes they add a song,but the main setlist is the same each night.

    PJ have released almost every show on PJ.com,since 2000.DMB about 60 or so.U2 have what,2 or 3 live CDs....maybe.PJ and DMB are amazing live,and mix up their sets each and every night.Unlike U2,you never know what songs PJ and DMB are going to perform.

    I cant think of any other big live act,other than DMB,who can play 3 nights in one city,without one repeat.PJ (who I love) will have 2 or 3 repeats over a 2 night stand.

    Bottom line...DMB are amazing live and give the fans their all.Be happy they are still touring.I cant wait for the DMB 2012 Summer Tour.....
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    I have no interest in attending a Pearl Jam show that does not contain Even Flow on the setlist.
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    Old 09-26-2011, 07:41 AM   #7
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    I understand there is a lot of complaining around here about setlists being predictable/boring/etc recently, but I think the band has really reacted in 2010 and 2011 to bring it setlist wise like they haven't done in a while.

    First, we have to accept that Stand Up and Big Whiskey exist... so we will hear those songs. We can't go back and look at 2004 sets and expect them anymore.

    But let's look at the facts:

    In the 2010 summer tour, 2010 fall tour, and 2011 Caravan tour, we've seen the following songs:


    2010 tour:

    Halloween
    Cry Freedom played 4 or 5 times
    Sweet Up and Down
    Instrumental Intro to One Sweet World
    Kit Kat Jam
    I'l Back You Up
    Good Good Time
    Cortez
    Lie In Our Graves
    Grace Is Gone
    Big Eyed Fish
    Seek Up
    Lover Lay Down
    Beach Ball
    Sleep To Dream Her
    Fool To Think
    Recently/Water Wine Jam
    Pig
    The Stone
    Minarets
    Dreaming Tree
    Busted Stuff
    If I Had It All

    2010 Fall Tour:

    Last Stop (at almost every show)
    Minarets
    Halloween
    Spoon
    Long Black Veil
    Song Jane Likes
    Christmas Song
    What You Are
    What Would You Say

    And at the Caravan (13 shows + 4 Dave & Tim shows), they played:

    Rhyme and Reason
    the Maker
    Loving Wings
    Raven
    Captain
    Baby Blue
    Blue Water
    Seek Up
    Dive In (hey, I love it!)
    Angel From Montgomery
    Drive In Drive Out
    Best of Whats Around
    Kill the King
    Joyride
    The Stone
    Halloween
    Cortez the Killer
    #40 partial
    Say Goodbye
    ABI/American Baby
    Break Free
    Shotgun
    Oh
    Typical Situation

    I tried not to repeat songs from tour to tour, as a lot of the songs overlap. But I remember being around in 2007 and 2008 and 2009... and to think I'd be able to hear some of these songs would have just been a dream. I heard Cry Freedom 3 times, SPOON, Last Stop, Halloween 2 times, Pig 2 times, the Stone 3 times, I heard Big Eyed Fish segue into 3 different songs, etc .... how amazing is that???

    Just to make this clear: Captain, Spoon, Last Stop, Raven, Halloween, IBYU, Cry Freedom, Good Good Time, Minarets, Sweet Up and Down... these are songs from a dream set.

    If I'm not mistaken the band played over 100 unique songs in the 2010 summer tour. (the almanac is down or I'd check). But please, by all means, be appreciative! Be happy!

    This band is really trying to mix it up to please us hardcore fans... and doing a damn good job
    You are 100% correct sir.
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    I have no interest in attending a Pearl Jam show that does not contain Even Flow on the setlist.
    I just saw PJ in Montreal,09.07.Drove up from NYC.They played Even Flow......great tune.
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    there will be set trends and complainers... end of thread. I enjoyed 2010 and 2011. I like it when they throw in a few surprises!
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    Im a huge DMB fan,as well as U2 and PJ.U2,always play 95% the same setlist each night.Here and there,yes they add a song,but the main setlist is the same each night.

    PJ have released almost every show on PJ.com,since 2000.DMB about 60 or so.U2 have what,2 or 3 live CDs....maybe.PJ and DMB are amazing live,and mix up their sets each and every night.Unlike U2,you never know what songs PJ and DMB are going to perform.

    I cant think of any other big live act,other than DMB,who can play 3 nights in one city,without one repeat.PJ (who I love) will have 2 or 3 repeats over a 2 night stand.

    Bottom line...DMB are amazing live and give the fans their all.Be happy they are still touring.I cant wait for the DMB 2012 Summer Tour.....



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    I think thought they did a pretty good job last year and this year. Would be nice to see some songs stay in rotation for more than 3 or 4 plays but it's good they're at least throwing different songs in the sets.

    I like where your heads at OP!
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    I have no interest in attending a Pearl Jam show that does not contain Even Flow on the setlist.
    Um...they play it at pretty much 97% of their shows. Its pretty much the 1 guaranteed song you're gonna hear
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    The problem is that too many of the songs listed above are still rarities by any measure, and that while there are still shows with great setlists for the most part the "average" setlist on most tours has become pretty mediocre.
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    I understand there is a lot of complaining around here about setlists being predictable/boring/etc recently, but I think the band has really reacted in 2010 and 2011 to bring it setlist wise like they haven't done in a while.

    First, we have to accept that Stand Up and Big Whiskey exist... so we will hear those songs. We can't go back and look at 2004 sets and expect them anymore.

    But let's look at the facts:

    In the 2010 summer tour, 2010 fall tour, and 2011 Caravan tour, we've seen the following songs:


    2010 tour:

    Halloween
    Cry Freedom played 4 or 5 times
    Sweet Up and Down
    Instrumental Intro to One Sweet World
    Kit Kat Jam
    I'l Back You Up
    Good Good Time
    Cortez

    Lie In Our Graves
    Grace Is Gone
    Big Eyed Fish
    Seek Up
    Lover Lay Down
    Beach Ball
    Sleep To Dream Her
    Fool To Think
    Recently/Water Wine Jam
    Pig
    The Stone
    Minarets
    Dreaming Tree
    Busted Stuff
    If I Had It All

    2010 Fall Tour:

    Last Stop (at almost every show)
    Minarets
    Halloween
    Spoon
    Long Black Veil

    Song Jane Likes
    Christmas Song
    What You Are
    What Would You Say

    And at the Caravan (13 shows + 4 Dave & Tim shows), they played:

    Rhyme and Reason
    the Maker
    Loving Wings
    Raven
    Captain
    Baby Blue
    Blue Water
    Seek Up
    Dive In (hey, I love it!)
    Angel From Montgomery
    Drive In Drive Out

    Best of Whats Around
    Kill the King
    Joyride

    The Stone
    Halloween
    Cortez the Killer
    #40 partial
    Say Goodbye
    ABI/American Baby
    Break Free
    Shotgun
    Oh
    Typical Situation

    I tried not to repeat songs from tour to tour, as a lot of the songs overlap. But I remember being around in 2007 and 2008 and 2009... and to think I'd be able to hear some of these songs would have just been a dream. I heard Cry Freedom 3 times, SPOON, Last Stop, Halloween 2 times, Pig 2 times, the Stone 3 times, I heard Big Eyed Fish segue into 3 different songs, etc .... how amazing is that???

    Just to make this clear: Captain, Spoon, Last Stop, Raven, Halloween, IBYU, Cry Freedom, Good Good Time, Minarets, Sweet Up and Down... these are songs from a dream set.

    If I'm not mistaken the band played over 100 unique songs in the 2010 summer tour. (the almanac is down or I'd check). But please, by all means, be appreciative! Be happy!

    This band is really trying to mix it up to please us hardcore fans... and doing a damn good job
    all these songs were played once or twice, i'm glad they're being played, but it kind of sucks not everyone gets to see them and that they're one off's the thing more important to me is what's in constant rotation, and unless i'm missing something, isn't BEF pretty much the only song liberated in 2010 in constant rotation
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    The problem is that too many of the songs listed above are still rarities by any measure, and that while there are still shows with great setlists for the most part the "average" setlist on most tours has become pretty mediocre.
    I kinda agree, although a mediocre set is still a good show / fun time to me.

    I think the only way that can really change is for a new Big 3 quality album, with new songs that are as good as LLD / DIDO / Spoon / whatever.

    I know some people think Groogrux is that album; I guess others of us are still waiting.

    But otherwise the best setlists tend to be nostalgia shows for the most part, with just a few post-2000 tunes thrown in.
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    I wish they could have brought out more songs like jtr, song Jane likes, last stop, pig and a bunch of songs off everyday like space between, so right, what you are- but the fact they brought out songs I never thought we'd see again mainly kill the king... Very happy with what I saw this summer
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    I'm usually not much of a complainer, but.......

    While I agree the total number of unique songs is impressive, I also agree with others that is is frustrating that so many of the great bust-outs get so few plays. I mean, they nail some of them on the first play and then they get mothballed pretty quick.
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    Im a huge DMB fan,as well as U2 and PJ.U2,always play 95% the same setlist each night.Here and there,yes they add a song,but the main setlist is the same each night.

    PJ have released almost every show on PJ.com,since 2000.DMB about 60 or so.U2 have what,2 or 3 live CDs....maybe.PJ and DMB are amazing live,and mix up their sets each and every night.Unlike U2,you never know what songs PJ and DMB are going to perform.

    I cant think of any other big live act,other than DMB,who can play 3 nights in one city,without one repeat.PJ (who I love) will have 2 or 3 repeats over a 2 night stand.

    Bottom line...DMB are amazing live and give the fans their all.Be happy they are still touring.I cant wait for the DMB 2012 Summer Tour.....
    The bolded is almost flat-out false; rearranging the same core songs in a different order barely counts as "mixing it up", not when 5 or 6 songs get 40 or 50 plays a year. OP is lucky (and so am I, I admit that) to have hit all the right shows to catch most or all of the rarities; most people aren't so lucky, and you can read through the number of awesome songs people have never heard in this thread if you want some testimony to that effect. The rarities never last, and OP using the stat of the number songs played on a tour is misleading as a result.

    Just to add to this, no, I do not believe that if we were getting some of the rarities every other night people would be complaining about repetition. I don't think that there's a direct correlation between hardcore fan demand for a song and its relative rarity; there might be some, but hardcore fans want good songs, which happen to be rare. People don't shit on sets from '93 to '00 for being repetitious because the songs are all good. They bust on more recent setlists because they're being repeatedly force-fed lesser songs.
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    First off...Yes I would rather have them tour than not, but just taking the Caravan set lists

    YMDT 5
    Spaceman 5
    SMLAM 5
    Blackjack 5
    Corn Bread 4
    OOMH 4

    BOWA 1
    The Stone 1
    Recently 0
    The Last Stop 0
    Pig 0
    Spoon 0
    The Dreaming Tree 0
    TSTJL 0
    LLD 0
    Typical 0 (FB)

    When they play the top group of songs more than Ants (3), appreciate is probably not the adjective I would use.
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    Just to add to this, no, I do not believe that if we were getting some of the rarities every other night people would be complaining about repetition. I don't think that there's a direct correlation between hardcore fan demand for a song and its relative rarity; there might be some, but hardcore fans want good songs, which happen to be rare. People don't shit on sets from '93 to '00 for being repetitious because the songs are all good. They bust on more recent setlists because they're being repeatedly force-fed lesser songs.
    I fully agree that people wouldn't be complaining if great songs were getting more play. The argument that "people only want to hear (insert great rare song here) because it's rare" is stupid; people want to hear those songs because they're great songs, but just happen to be rare. Not many people complain about hearing Two Step or Ants or #41, even though all three of those songs are generally in regular rotation.

    However, I will disagree regarding the sets up to 2000, because at the time there was plenty of frustration over their repetitiveness. However, back then the complaint wasn't about the quality of what was being played so much as the fact that there would frequently be numerous repeats on two or three night stands, which has always been inexcusable. Even when DMB had like 50 songs in the catalog, that could still result in three excellent shows without repeats.
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    The bolded is almost flat-out false; rearranging the same core songs in a different order barely counts as "mixing it up", not when 5 or 6 songs get 40 or 50 plays a year. OP is lucky (and so am I, I admit that) to have hit all the right shows to catch most or all of the rarities; most people aren't so lucky, and you can read through the number of awesome songs people have never heard in this thread if you want some testimony to that effect. The rarities never last, and OP using the stat of the number songs played on a tour is misleading as a result.

    Just to add to this, no, I do not believe that if we were getting some of the rarities every other night people would be complaining about repetition. I don't think that there's a direct correlation between hardcore fan demand for a song and its relative rarity; there might be some, but hardcore fans want good songs, which happen to be rare. People don't shit on sets from '93 to '00 for being repetitious because the songs are all good. They bust on more recent setlists because they're being repeatedly force-fed lesser songs.
    I understand what you are saying,but I think you might have missed my point.DMB played around 60 songs at each of the 4 Caravan stops.Over each 3 night stand,not 1 repeat.Plus, Dave played 8-9 other songs with Tim solo.69 different songs,IMO,thats very impressive over a 3 day stay.As a longtime U2 fan,I wish they would come close to that.They NEVER HAVE.

    The only other band, that comes close to such a variety of songs, is PJ.

    I was only trying to say,with DMB and PJ,you really dont know what tunes you are going to hear.With most big bands,you get the "hits".

    The Caravan this year,obviously was a different situation.We,as hardcore fans of the band,yes we knew the sets.But the average fans dont know.They dont check on a daily basis to see what the setlist was the night before.Cause,they dont care.We do.

    The band only played 13 gigs this year,and I think for the most part,they did a very fine job.I have no complaints.Plus,after attending shows for 15 years,I finally got Halloween !!!!
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    Old 09-26-2011, 11:30 AM   #22
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    I understand what you are saying,but I think you might have missed my point.DMB played around 60 songs at each of the 4 Caravan stops.Over each 3 night stand,not 1 repeat.Plus, Dave played 8-9 other songs with Tim solo.69 different songs,IMO,thats very impressive over a 3 day stay.As a longtime U2 fan,I wish they would come close to that.They NEVER HAVE.

    The only other band, that comes close to such a variety of songs, is PJ.

    I was only trying to say,with DMB and PJ,you really dont know what tunes you are going to hear.With most big bands,you get the "hits".

    The Caravan this year,obviously was a different situation.We,as hardcore fans of the band,yes we knew the sets.But the average fans dont know.They dont check on a daily basis to see what the setlist was the night before.Cause,they dont care.We do.

    The band only played 13 gigs this year,and I think for the most part,they did a very fine job.I have no complaints.Plus,after attending shows for 15 years,I finally got Halloween !!!!
    Definitely not true. Plenty of bands mix it up on a nightly basis.
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    I understand what you are saying,but I think you might have missed my point.DMB played around 60 songs at each of the 4 Caravan stops.Over each 3 night stand,not 1 repeat.Plus, Dave played 8-9 other songs with Tim solo.69 different songs,IMO,thats very impressive over a 3 day stay.As a longtime U2 fan,I wish they would come close to that.They NEVER HAVE.

    The only other band, that comes close to such a variety of songs, is PJ.

    I was only trying to say,with DMB and PJ,you really dont know what tunes you are going to hear.With most big bands,you get the "hits".

    The Caravan this year,obviously was a different situation.We,as hardcore fans of the band,yes we knew the sets.But the average fans dont know.They dont check on a daily basis to see what the setlist was the night before.Cause,they dont care.We do.

    The band only played 13 gigs this year,and I think for the most part,they did a very fine job.I have no complaints.Plus,after attending shows for 15 years,I finally got Halloween !!!!
    I can appreciate the difference, and I know that most bands lean on identical or very similar setlists from night to night (thought that U2 was a little better about that on the 360 Tour than they've been on others), and I certainly appreciate the lack of repeats over four sets every weekend during the Caravan, although repeats from one night to the next have never bothered me that much, even when I've seen repeats at consecutive shows that I've been to.

    What gets me is leaning heavy on a particular core group of songs with such frequency, and Big Whiskey's in particular have not worn well on me being played that often (and I like the album). What kills me about the number of different songs is the lack of balance between the short-lived debuts and those songs you have at least a 50-50 chance of hearing. It shouldn't have taken you 15 years to get Halloween (glad you finally got it, though) any more than it took me 12 to get Minarets (or 11 to get Halloween, for that matter).
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    Definitely not true. Plenty of bands mix it up on a nightly basis.
    Definitely. There's this one named Phish that does a better job of it than either DMB or Pearl Jam.
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    I can appreciate the difference, and I know that most bands lean on identical or very similar setlists from night to night (thought that U2 was a little better about that on the 360 Tour than they've been on others), and I certainly appreciate the lack of repeats over four sets every weekend during the Caravan, although repeats from one night to the next have never bothered me that much, even when I've seen repeats at consecutive shows that I've been to.

    What gets me is leaning heavy on a particular core group of songs with such frequency, and Big Whiskey's in particular have not worn well on me being played that often (and I like the album). What kills me about the number of different songs is the lack of balance between the short-lived debuts and those songs you have at least a 50-50 chance of hearing. It shouldn't have taken you 15 years to get Halloween (glad you finally got it, though) any more than it took me 12 to get Minarets (or 11 to get Halloween, for that matter).
    Agreed.Well said.

    I think the main reason, they are still playing alot of BW, is because its their latest release.They dont want to shun the "newer" music,and become the Stones or McCartney.Sir Paul, virtually ignores his 40 year solo career,to play the same old Beatle songs, from the 1960's, every night.Great songs,no question.Some are the best songs ever written.But what does it say,when you dont play anything from the last ten years of your career ?

    I like the album (BW) as well,I think its a very good album.Im think Im in the minority with Time Bomb .IMO,its brilliant live,Tim kills it.
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    positive: last year at the gorge was the first time they had done a 3 night stand without any repeats (to my knowledge) and that continued in 2011 at EVERY caravan. awesome.

    negative: the good songs don't stay in rotation. DIDO at alpine last summer and then not again until NYC caravan that makes no sense to me. Many other classics are in similarly poor poor rotation.

    Is what it is, i still love shows but I think what I said above is fact.
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    Definitely. There's this one named Phish that does a better job of it than either DMB or Pearl Jam.
    True.But I mean more mainstream,commercial "popular" acts.Phish are more of a cult live group,like the Dead.You never hear Phish on the radio,not even Sirius.DMB are very commercial, in comparison to Phish.Who,I have never been a fan of,at all.

    Im referring to popular acts more on the level of Coldplay or Radiohead (huge fan).Chris Martin,once said Coldplay rehearse maybe 30 tunes for a tour.Maybe.Radiohead,who are brilliant,a couple more I would guess.Thats it,and both bands are mega huge all over.Whether you like them or not,thats not the point. IMO most big live acts dont play different sets each night,in the same city.Thats rare. I appreciate what Dave does.Sure,Im not into hearing YMDT,or Cornbread every tour,but I accept hes into it.
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    I have a great time at every show I go to!!!!!!!!!!!!

    With that said, I guessed about 20 songs and placements at the Gorge Caravan before they brought out the guitars, just becasue I had looked at the setlists from the other caravans. Thats a little weak sauce.

    I understand that during a normal touring year it gets old coming up with sets but for a year like this looking back I would have expected more.

    I also think that for big hyped shows they could try a little harder. geeze have a contest and let a fan write a setlist.

    Honestly I just love em and are so glad they still play. If they play for 5-10 more years thay can play cornbread at every show.
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    My goodness there are some long posts in this thread. Anyway, I give them credit for putting some more effort into their written sets as far as variety goes. Now, would it be nice to see a Typical, Pig, or Lover Lay Down pop up every now and then instead of Can't Stop? Sure, but I think the thought process is that anything is fair game particularly with this new lineup. I applaud their efforts on the reworking of tunes like ABI, Can't Stop and the like. Not saying they're awesome and I love the songs unconditionally, but I appreciate the intent and effort they put forward. That's all I want- effort, and they seem to be challenging themselves more often than they used to which is refreshing.
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