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[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

I hate continually chasing tickets, I make plans before or right when tours are announced, almost never have last minute adds.

The only comparable to this would be ascend a couple years back which is still 1k more people than the Greek holds and those tix were almost non existent on the secondary market.

idk, I would just have severe anxiety trying to chase these down knowing you have to get flights and hotels squared away much earlier if you didnt hit during the onsale.

I'm with you. The few times I got shut out of a ticket. I just pony up and pay. It sucks and I hate feeding the beast but I get too much anxiety not having my plans squared away.

[laverwater]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

I hate continually chasing tickets, I make plans before or right when tours are announced, almost never have last minute adds.

The only comparable to this would be ascend a couple years back which is still 1k more people than the Greek holds and those tix were almost non existent on the secondary market.

idk, I would just have severe anxiety trying to chase these down knowing you have to get flights and hotels squared away much earlier if you didnt hit during the onsale.

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

I'm with you. The few times I got shut out of a ticket. I just pony up and pay. It sucks and I hate feeding the beast but I get too much anxiety not having my plans squared away.

The only exception I make to this is for festivals. People cancel plans all the time, so buying a ticket last minute is hardly ever an issue.

Sometimes you find those people that have corporate packages or something, and have like 16 to sell below face. Got a VIP wristband for Roo for the price of a GA. Unfortunately it was the year it was canceled .

[TheLastPig]

I wont pay over face unless im stuck close to the event with nothing. Luckily I dont recall this ever happening for any band Ive seen a lot of shows by, Phish, DMB, Goose etc. Ill default to a cheaper ticket option/lawn as a backup if I dont scoop something I truly want at onsale time.

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by crush_me_16125

Will be a tough ticket but keep at it and it will happen. I’m pushing 70 shows and the only ones I’ve ever paid over face for was the ‘09 Hampton reunion shows and that was a completely different beast. I can’t even count how many have sold out and several which have been pitched as the “the toughest ticket of tour”. It usually takes a lot of time/effort, admittedly it would be more practical for me to just pay up now, but it’s a principal thing at this point haha.

I mean, I would have hit the lottery had I known I would go to these shows. At the time I didn’t have anyone to go with, and didn’t want to do the run alone. Then I met this Co Worker that loves to hit shows, and we have been thinking hitting Phish/WSP this spring. We decided this would be the coolest run to go to out of all these shows this spring. I work two jobs for stuff like this. I’ll probably shell out a little extra, and secure one ticket today or tomorrow. Then put the plane tickets on the next months bill. I’m going to stop going out totally pretty much for the next few months left in the ski season. That will save me quite a bit. Really would do anything to get to at least 2 of these shows!

[crush_me_16125]

Originally Posted by mr. testaverde

as shown in above posts, they set their limit to no more than 50. but it made me curious on number of shows a year they've played since their return. this was a quick count each year so i may be slightly off. i didnt count shows that didnt end up happening (Curveball, most of 2020, 3 in 2021, etc).

I was surprised to see that they played very few in 2015 and 2017

2009: 52
2010: 48
2011: 41
2012: 37
2013: 42
2014: 42
2015: 31
2016: 48
2017: 29
2018: 39
2019: 42
2020: 4
2021: 36
2022: 46
2023: 12*

That’s the kind of number crunching data I like!

Funny, I’d say the best years of 3.0 are 21, 17, 15. We typically equate time if the road to improved cohesiveness and better jamming but thier we’re 3 of the 4 years with the least tours dates.

Biggest surprise to me is last year had 46 shows, and was one of my least attended phish years. I guess things just didn’t align. Already looking better for 2023 for me though!

[crush_me_16125]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

I hate continually chasing tickets, I make plans before or right when tours are announced, almost never have last minute adds.

The only comparable to this would be ascend a couple years back which is still 1k more people than the Greek holds and those tix were almost non existent on the secondary market.

idk, I would just have severe anxiety trying to chase these down knowing you have to get flights and hotels squared away much earlier if you didnt hit during the onsale.

The argument for not wanting to continually chase tickets is a valid one. It’s admittedly probably not worth my time these days, I have the means to pay secondary market. But there’s also a sense of excitement in the chase and great satisfaction when you land that tough ticket without having to feed the scalper trash.

Yeah Ascend was two of the shows I was thinking when I made my comment above, but I was at those shows there were tickets available on lot. Some other ones that stand out that I attend and were being billed as “on a different level/you’ll never be able to get in without scalpers”: various NYE shows, the first hampton shows following the hiatus, last weekend of BD (although that hype didn’t catch until about 1/2 way through the BD run), Santa Barbara Bowl in 2021, Ark 2021 (the return show), hell even Halloween 2021 people were pitching as “the most difficult ticket in years”. But all of them had tickets pop for face right before the show on CoT and all but except SB I saw tickets on lot.

I don’t fault people who get nervous and just want to lock in tickets, but I certainly wouldn’t poo poo the people who have faith that they can hold out and find tickets for face. History says that essentially always happens (unless they’ve been on hiatus for 5 years ).

Also, google says the Greek Theater in Berkeley has a 8,500 person capacity. Google says Bill Graham also only holds 8,500 and that’s in SF proper and they’ve played that on weekends before. Long story short is the venue is not THAT small, and they historically don’t draw particularly well in SF (somewhat paradoxically). So yes i do believe the Greek will be a tough ticket but it’s not like they’re playing the Warfield on NYE or something.

[mr. testaverde]

Originally Posted by crush_me_16125

That’s the kind of number crunching data I like!

Funny, I’d say the best years of 3.0 are 21, 17, 15. We typically equate time if the road to improved cohesiveness and better jamming but thier we’re 3 of the 4 years with the least tours dates.

Biggest surprise to me is last year had 46 shows, and was one of my least attended phish years. I guess things just didn’t align. Already looking better for 2023 for me though!

2022 was my most attended year for phish. hit up 7 shows....helps that 4 were in mexico; the other 3 were sprinkled throughout the year

[crush_me_16125]

Originally Posted by mr. testaverde

2022 was my most attended year for phish. hit up 7 shows....helps that 4 were in mexico; the other 3 were sprinkled throughout the year

7s a good number. I find as i get older (and probably more cantankerous) once i get into the double digits I get a little burnt out. Never on the music, but on the scene. And by that I mean douches at shows. I find that three 2-3 night runs spread throughout the year is kinda perfect for me now. Keeps every show new and exciting and the bad crowd experiences don’t pile up.

This year shapes up nicely for that as I’m hitting up Hollywood bowl, def one weekend run in summer whenever it’s announced ( I’d guess this Tuesday if i were a betting man) , and the. likely a fall or NYE run. Shaping up to me a good Phish-y year!

[crush_me_16125]

Btw listened to most of Gorge 98 last night and damn that’s a good release. Super clean mixing and some fire jams. The Stash was sicko

[TheLastPig]

Passing along. Seems to be current consensus, maybe Huntsville to start before these as well.

7/14/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/15/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/16/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/18/23 Wilmington, NC
7/19/23 Wilmington, NC
7/21/23 Burgettstown, PA
7/22/23 Burgettstown, PA
7/23/23 Syracuse, NY
7/25/23 Philadelphia, PA
7/26/23 Philadelphia, PA
7/28/23 MSG
7/29/23 MSG
7/30/23 MSG
8/1/23 MSG
8/2/23 MSG
8/4/23 MSG
8/5/23 MSG
8/6/23 MSG
8/31/23 Dicks
9/1/23 Dicks
9/2/23 Dicks
9/3/23 Dicks

[crush_me_16125]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Passing along. Seems to be current consensus, maybe Huntsville to start before these as well.

7/14/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/15/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/16/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/18/23 Wilmington, NC
7/19/23 Wilmington, NC
7/21/23 Burgettstown, PA
7/22/23 Burgettstown, PA
7/23/23 Syracuse, NY
7/25/23 Philadelphia, PA
7/26/23 Philadelphia, PA
7/28/23 MSG
7/29/23 MSG
7/30/23 MSG
8/1/23 MSG
8/2/23 MSG
8/4/23 MSG
8/5/23 MSG
8/6/23 MSG
8/31/23 Dicks
9/1/23 Dicks
9/2/23 Dicks
9/3/23 Dicks

Thanks for passing on!

Weird ass tour. Like super weird haha.

Anyways, I could def get down with B-town x2 -> Syracuse! Could even squeeze a family/home town visit trip in.

[tyler3440]

Just secured tickets for one night at the Greek! Two more to go!

[WhereYouGoin]

Originally Posted by crush_me_16125

7s a good number. I find as i get older (and probably more cantankerous) once i get into the double digits I get a little burnt out. Never on the music, but on the scene. And by that I mean douches at shows. I find that three 2-3 night runs spread throughout the year is kinda perfect for me now. Keeps every show new and exciting and the bad crowd experiences don’t pile up.

This year shapes up nicely for that as I’m hitting up Hollywood bowl, def one weekend run in summer whenever it’s announced ( I’d guess this Tuesday if i were a betting man) , and the. likely a fall or NYE run. Shaping up to me a good Phish-y year!

Won't surprise me if we get a fall tour this year. Seems to be every other year as of lately: 2009, 10, 13, 14, 16, 18, 19 (short run after thanksgiving), 21 (Guessing that was on hold for '20 but we all know why they couldn't do that one in '20).

[crush_me_16125]

Threw on a random show yesterday, Boise 9/14/99. Man, helluva second set. GOAT AC/DC Bag? What a jam.

[RAPUNZEL13]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Passing along. Seems to be current consensus, maybe Huntsville to start before these as well.

7/14/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/15/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/16/23 Alpharetta, GA
7/18/23 Wilmington, NC
7/19/23 Wilmington, NC
7/21/23 Burgettstown, PA
7/22/23 Burgettstown, PA
7/23/23 Syracuse, NY
7/25/23 Philadelphia, PA
7/26/23 Philadelphia, PA
7/28/23 MSG
7/29/23 MSG
7/30/23 MSG
8/1/23 MSG
8/2/23 MSG
8/4/23 MSG
8/5/23 MSG
8/6/23 MSG
8/31/23 Dicks
9/1/23 Dicks
9/2/23 Dicks
9/3/23 Dicks

See you at MSG

[mr. testaverde]

Originally Posted by crush_me_16125

7s a good number. I find as i get older (and probably more cantankerous) once i get into the double digits I get a little burnt out. Never on the music, but on the scene. And by that I mean douches at shows. I find that three 2-3 night runs spread throughout the year is kinda perfect for me now. Keeps every show new and exciting and the bad crowd experiences don’t pile up.

it can be an exhausting scene, no doubt.

Originally Posted by crush_me_16125

Threw on a random show yesterday, Boise 9/14/99. Man, helluva second set. GOAT AC/DC Bag? What a jam.

that release, along with the amsterdam set, is the best sounding show they've put out

DWD is just balls to the wall

[BTBaboon]

Dates this week? Hopefully?

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

Dates this week? Hopefully?

Next tuesday 2/14

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Next tuesday 2/14

Public on sale for Friday 2/17 then?

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

Public on sale for Friday 2/17 then?

No thats DMB public sale, unlikely they would be the same day. Prob 2/24 or more likely 3/3.

[laverwater]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

No thats DMB public sale, unlikely they would be the same day. Prob 2/24 or more likely 3/3.

I feel like in the past for Summer tour they left the lottery open for a week or two, so that makes sense.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by laverwater

I feel like in the past for Summer tour they left the lottery open for a week or two, so that makes sense.

Last year was 2/15 announcement 3/4 sale.

[crush_me_16125]

Originally Posted by mr. testaverde

it can be an exhausting scene, no doubt.



that release, along with the amsterdam set, is the best sounding show they've put out

DWD is just balls to the wall

Yeah that whole second set is just fire. DWD is pretty much an 11 min intense straight peak.

[Revolution36]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Next tuesday 2/14

Do you pinky promise?

[aeroshady]

Mikes Song->Oh Holy Night->Taste from 08/02/17 Bakers is an insanely good run of songs. Jams on Mikes and Taste are unreal. Phish released the Taste in their YouTube. It’s so good.

[dmbfd15]

Obligatory Farmhouse-needs-an-LP re-release post.

Just for that studio Jiboo alone. But such a good album overall. One of my favorites.

[AndySlash]

Originally Posted by mr. testaverde

as shown in above posts, they set their limit to no more than 50. but it made me curious on number of shows a year they've played since their return. this was a quick count each year so i may be slightly off. i didnt count shows that didnt end up happening (Curveball, most of 2020, 3 in 2021, etc).

I was surprised to see that they played very few in 2015 and 2017

2009: 52
2010: 48
2011: 41
2012: 37
2013: 42
2014: 42
2015: 31
2016: 48
2017: 29
2018: 39
2019: 42
2020: 4
2021: 36
2022: 46
2023: 12*

Originally Posted by crush_me_16125

That’s the kind of number crunching data I like!

for future reference setlist.fm has a lot of this type of info easily accessible so you don't have to do the work.

https://www.setlist.fm/stats/phish-13d6ad51.html

[mr. testaverde]

Lolol

https://i.imgur.com/h5dQzO9.png

[dmbfd15]

Originally Posted by mr. testaverde

Lolol

https://i.imgur.com/h5dQzO9.png

So awesome. Definitely wanted to make Trey-got-stuck jokes but nobody I was with would have had any idea what I was talking about. Or who the fuck “Trey” is

The U2 residency commercial was strange but it gives me hope that they’ll actually finish/open the Sphere this year. Halloween 2024?

[Revolution36]

Dates today??????