*Prompter Thread* (NO personal attacks, NO trolling)

[gonz085]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

of course not. If some ultra religious person wants to protest abortion, they should, because it aligns with their core beliefs. theres nothing inherently wrong with protesting anything, but its undeniable the right wing media has been doing a lot to portray OWS and BLM as the only problem without trying to address the actual issues, instead theyre all cast as crazy people.





Well you didnt say "hey they have too much control". Im completely for privatizing some stuff, but there are still things that can be corrected with the government stepping in, but most of the time when you try to talk to someone about it that has the mindset youre displaying it quickly reverts back to the generic BS I posted.

I can see your point, but I'm not like those other people.

[Benny003]

Originally Posted by gonz085

Also, Benny, you can't be serious. Which of the following is more condescending, think either a) my points make so much sense they just agree with me or b) people are individuals and their takes are likely to be nuanced and different. I'm on side b, you on the other hand not so much.

I'm simply speaking from my perspective. If a pollster asked if I support socialist policies, I would probably say yes and my previous posts have explained what I interpret socialists policies to be. I still don't understand how you speak for everyone by being able to say that the general socialist movement wants to abolish capitalism, but I'm not allowed to say what I think the socialist movement is trying to accomplish.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by gonz085

Republicans con on false promises

Dems con on false empathy

Not the same, but you get the point.

Don't disagree with this either, but as Benny sort of said the other day, at least the dem con helps regular people sometimes

Originally Posted by GinVital

I don't see Trump enacting anything the 'extreme right' wants. I don't believe enforcing legal immigration fits this description. You guys keep acting like this all started with Trump, it didn't.

I agree with the second half. This is how the game is played on both sides of the isle though. They play the two headed snake con while the rest of us get screwed.

The issue I see is there is no middle ground any longer.

He doesn't even need to enact anything at this point. He literally trolls half the country every single day. He tweets to rile people up. He does those rallies for two reasons; his tiny penis needs it's ego stroked once a week and he knows he can yell a bunch of dumb shit and rile people up.

Originally Posted by rconverse

I want less money going to government.

Which is fine, I've got no problem with people arguing for lower tax. I've said on here I think high-earner tax rate thresholds should probably be higher at this point to account for costs of living.

The issue is the gut reaction on the right is to side with big business like they give a shit about you and call us socialists and commies.

[gonz085]

Originally Posted by Benny003

I'm simply speaking from my perspective. If a pollster asked if I support socialist policies, I would probably say yes and my previous posts have explained what I interpret socialists policies to be. I still don't understand how you speak for everyone by being able to say that the general socialist movement wants to abolish capitalism, but I'm not allowed to say what I think the socialist movement is trying to accomplish.

I never said that. But the ideology of socialism is antithetical to that of capitalism. That really isn't up for debate. All I said is that people have varying perspectives, shocking I know. The issue with democratic socialism is that no one here could probably give me the same definition of it. That raises red flags in my head immediately.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by Benny003

Can someone explain to me how the democrats are conning us? I feel like they are conning us into things I actually want like better healthcare and better education systems. If that's what I'm being conned into, then I'm fine with that. What is the nefarious things that the democrats are getting that is so awful that we shouldn't let them have power?

Im guessing the con is that if they give those things it will lead to the downfall of our capitalistic society.

But lets just ignore other countries doing it at least moderately successfully because it fits the conservative argument.


At least dems arent completely two faced and flat out lie to the face of Americans about things like the tax cut helping the middle class while the rich laugh their way to the bank.

[Benny003]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Im guessing the con is that if they give those things it will lead to the downfall of our capitalistic society.

But lets just ignore other countries doing it at least moderately successfully because it fits the conservative argument.


At least dems arent completely two faced and flat out lie to the face of Americans about things like the tax cut helping the middle class while the rich laugh their way to the bank.

OK, playing along with this, how do democrats benefit from the downfall of capitalistic society, especially as has been mentioned earlier, most wealthy people are democrats (apparently)?

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Im guessing the con is that if they give those things it will lead to the downfall of our capitalistic society.

But lets just ignore other countries doing it at least moderately successfully because it fits the conservative argument.


At least dems arent completely two faced and flat out lie to the face of Americans about things like the tax cut helping the middle class while the rich laugh their way to the bank.

Never really thought about this...but there may actually be a point here. One could make an argument that a healthy, educated populace could reduce demand on a number of items. Junk food, soda, a whole myriad of products that nobody needs, healthcare....

[Benny003]

Originally Posted by gonz085

I never said that. But the ideology of socialism is antithetical to that of capitalism. That really isn't up for debate. All I said is that people have varying perspectives, shocking I know. The issue with democratic socialism is that no one here could probably give me the same definition of it. That raises red flags in my head immediately.

My point is that the people who want to abolish capitalism are far in the minority and I haven't seen any evidence to state otherwise.

[gonz085]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

Never really thought about this...but there may actually be a point here. One could make an argument that a healthy, educated populace could reduce demand on a number of items. Junk food, soda, a whole myriad of products that nobody needs, healthcare....

And herein lies the slippery slope. How much of people's lives do you want to regulate under the guise of "good intentions"? I'm not even disagreeing with you, but it is a problem. People will always make shitty decisions.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

Never really thought about this...but there may actually be a point here. One could make an argument that a healthy, educated populace could reduce demand on a number of items. Junk food, soda, a whole myriad of products that nobody needs, healthcare....

Theres definitely an argument to be built from that thought... the reality is most on the right dont know why theyre arguing against universal healthcare and more school funding etc.

Like I said above, it often resorts back to incredibly naive or simplistic viewpoints like "durr all gubment is bad and wastes money" that have been fed to them throughout the years. They argue against things that would help them for reasons unbeknownst to them.

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by Benny003

My point is that the people who want to abolish capitalism are far in the minority and I haven't seen any evidence to state otherwise.

But, it FEELS like a movement that's poised to overtake the country and upend society as we know it, because some articles were written about it the last few weeks I guess?

[gonz085]

Originally Posted by Benny003

My point is that the people who want to abolish capitalism are far in the minority and I haven't seen any evidence to state otherwise.

Fair enough. There's a video on YouTube from OWS called "I'm the 1% ask me anything" or something like that, it's a cool watch.

We both want the same outcomes here so if at any point it seems like I'm arguing just to do so, it's not the case. I just want viable solutions that make sense for most people, because no matter what there will be a sector of the populace that gets screwed.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by gonz085

And herein lies the slippery slope. How much of people's lives do you want to regulate under the guise of "good intentions"? I'm not even disagreeing with you, but it is a problem. People will always make shitty decisions.

I wouldnt call giving everyone healthcare and bettering our education systems anywhere near regulating peoples lives.

[ShotgunDMB]

No soda and junk food? Socialists really do want to create hell on earth

[TheLastPig]

Getting money out of politics is step 1 in changing anything.

Sadly that first step seems nearly impossible.

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

No soda and junk food? Socialists really do want to create hell on earth

who said that?

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by gonz085

I never said that. But the ideology of socialism is antithetical to that of capitalism. That really isn't up for debate. All I said is that people have varying perspectives, shocking I know. The issue with democratic socialism is that no one here could probably give me the same definition of it. That raises red flags in my head immediately.

I'm pretty sure the same can be said about most political ideologies right now. What does Republican mean to you? What is the modern definition of "conservative".

A lot of ideology is in flux right now as there is a rush away from the center and into the extremes on either end of the political spectrum

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Theres definitely an argument to be built from that thought... the reality is most on the right dont know why theyre arguing against universal healthcare and more school funding etc.

Like I said above, it often resorts back to incredibly naive or simplistic viewpoints like "durr all gubment is bad and wastes money" that have been fed to them throughout the years. They argue against things that would help them for reasons unbeknownst to them.

Totally agree.

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by GSUdawg521

My point was, you see antifa in the news when they're protesting far-right marches and shit.

White supremacists are holding rallies.

Are antifa holding their own rallies to chant about communism or the destruction of capitalism? (fyi, also a serious question).

I think all rallies are stupid but that's besides the point.

I don't know of any rallies for the far left antifa. Clearly, if they're able to for a counter protest, they're communicating in some manner. Personally, I consider both fringe groups that are off their rockers and I don't take them seriously.

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Jealous of what? Your bigger boat, bigger house, better job?







How's camp counseling going?

You’re jealous of people with more money than you. You want their money.

Camp is going decent this week. Stormy weather has ruined some of the fun but it’s all good. Thanks for asking.

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by gonz085

And herein lies the slippery slope. How much of people's lives do you want to regulate under the guise of "good intentions"? I'm not even disagreeing with you, but it is a problem. People will always make shitty decisions.

how is providing quality healthcare and education the same thing as regulating people's lives???

[zajDmB1]

Canada Dry isn't made from real ginger!

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Canada Dry isn't made from real ginger!

those fuckers

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by jcc522

You’re jealous of people with more money than you. You want their money.

Camp is going decent this week. Stormy weather has ruined some of the fun but it’s all good. Thanks for asking.

Any butt stuff happening at camp?

if not youre behind the bragging curve in the dating thread

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by jcc522

You’re jealous of people with more money than you. You want their money.

Camp is going decent this week. Stormy weather has ruined some of the fun but it’s all good. Thanks for asking.

Go to Pound Town yet?

[Benny003]

Originally Posted by Route_2

But, it FEELS like a movement that's poised to overtake the country and upend society as we know it, because some articles were written about it the last few weeks I guess?

What's the line? Facts don't care about feelings?

[MDPrompter]

I wonder if this schweppes black cherry I'm drinking is flavored with actual black cherry???

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

I'm pretty sure the same can be said about most political ideologies right now. What does Republican mean to you? What is the modern definition of "conservative".

A lot of ideology is in flux right now as there is a rush away from the center and into the extremes on either end of the political spectrum

Of course. Which is why hanging your hat on one interview in Vox saying DSA's central goal is to destroy capitalism and saying 'see, see!' is asinine. Lots of folks identify with planks in DSA's platform but don't have to be for abolishing capitalism. Pretty amusing to watch all the Chicken Little's in here, though.

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Any butt stuff happening at camp?



if not youre behind the bragging curve in the dating thread

The campers are 8-11 you sick fuck.

Not related to camp but butt stuff: my girl got made at me two nights ago for putting a thumb in her butt while I was doing her from behind.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by jcc522

You’re jealous of people with more money than you. You want their money.

Camp is going decent this week. Stormy weather has ruined some of the fun but it’s all good. Thanks for asking.

Sure, I'm envious of people with more than me. I don't want THEIR money, though. I've been bootstrap pulling and will continue to do so.