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Old 06-16-2019, 03:00 PM   #451
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    I'm not surprised you think that considering you've proven time and time again you don't know what you're talking about. Next you're going to tell me because I like ice cream I must be obese too...

    Keep repeating it though. I'm sure the more you say it the more you'll believe it's true just like everything else.
    When have I proven time and time again I don’t know what I’m talking about? Take a fucking Xanax man, or at least put together a coherent argument/person attack (since that seems to be your favorite thing to do on these boards except bitch for the sake of bitching) that makes some fucking sense, it’s like watching a 3 yr old cry when they don’t know why they’re crying, it’s embarrassing.
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    Old 06-16-2019, 04:28 PM   #453
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    When have I proven time and time again I don’t know what I’m talking about? Take a fucking Xanax man, or at least put together a coherent argument/person attack (since that seems to be your favorite thing to do on these boards except bitch for the sake of bitching) that makes some fucking sense, it’s like watching a 3 yr old cry when they don’t know why they’re crying, it’s embarrassing.
    You still haven’t addressed any of the flaws I’ve mentioned in your arguments. You said I’m unhappy with everything. I proved that wrong. You said people are only bitching about a 3 song run. I proved that wrong.

    You can ad hominem me to death. It’s not going to take away from you trying to write checks your mouth can’t cash.

    Go find your safe space.

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    Old 06-16-2019, 04:35 PM   #454
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    You still haven’t addressed any of the flaws I’ve mentioned in your arguments. You said I’m unhappy with everything. I proved that wrong. You said people are only bitching about a 3 song run. I proved that wrong.

    You can ad hominem me to death. It’s not going to take away from you trying to write checks your mouth can’t cash.

    Go find your safe space.
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    This spat is slightly more entertaining than N2
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    Old 06-16-2019, 07:47 PM   #458
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    <div style="font-style:italic">I'm not surprised you think that considering you've proven time and time again you don't know what you're talking about. Next you're going to tell me because I like ice cream I must be obese too...<br>
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    Keep repeating it though. I'm sure the more you say it the more you'll believe it's true just like everything else.</div>
    </div>When have I proven time and time again I don’t know what I’m talking about? Take a fucking Xanax man, or at least put together a coherent argument/person attack (since that seems to be your favorite thing to do on these boards except bitch for the sake of bitching) that makes some fucking sense, it’s like watching a 3 yr old cry when they don’t know why they’re crying, it’s embarrassing.
    I seem to recall an interaction we had a few months back regarding Dave's attitude toward fans, which looks similar to your "discussion" with antiramie. It was pretty much like trying to explain to an intellectually disabled adult why they can't eat crayons for dinner or putting your head between your legs and shouting into your own asshole.

    It's funny people are arguing about three songs when in reality take the stone, crush, and sugar will from that n2 set and it is absolutely terrible.

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    Old 06-17-2019, 06:08 AM   #460
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    I seem to recall an interaction we had a few months back regarding Dave's attitude toward fans, which looks similar to your "discussion" with antiramie. It was pretty much like trying to explain to an intellectually disabled adult why they can't eat crayons for dinner or putting your head between your legs and shouting into your own asshole.

    It's funny people are arguing about three songs when in reality take the stone, crush, and sugar will from that n2 set and it is absolutely terrible.
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    I gotta admit, I would not have been disappointed to be at either night. Things could be going much worse.
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    I am honestly blown away by the salt people have about setlists. It's straight up fucking ridiculous to me. I mean Jesus, I feel fortunate enough that these guys are still touring. They could play Stand Up twice over in one night and it wouldn't bother me. They still sound fucking incredible live.

    Honestly good for him for saying what he said. He's right, they can kiss his ass. If there's anything I can't stand it's people next to me at a show complaining about the goddamn setlist. Either sit down, take a deep breath or get up and gtfo already.
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    I seem to recall an interaction we had a few months back regarding Dave's attitude toward fans, which looks similar to your "discussion" with antiramie. It was pretty much like trying to explain to an intellectually disabled adult why they can't eat crayons for dinner or putting your head between your legs and shouting into your own asshole.

    It's funny people are arguing about three songs when in reality take the stone, crush, and sugar will from that n2 set and it is absolutely terrible.
    Oh no, I've upset this halfwit now. Awesome comment though, thanks for moving the ball, pal.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 12:29 PM   #464
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    Re: Dave's Recent Comments re: critics

    If the folks with issues about the setlist would accept that some people are ok with the same setlists and that does not make them wrong, ballwashers or a disciple of Daves this conversation would go much better. If the folks who like the state of the band would see that some wish for things to be different, the conversation would not turn ugly. It is ok for people to have a different opinion then you. It is not ok to make it seem like those with differing opinions are invalid.

    I personally get why someone would have a perspective that the setlists could be better. I also get why some can go to any show and dance and sing and have a great time. Both of those things are valid.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 12:43 PM   #465
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    If the folks with issues about the setlist would accept that some people are ok with the same setlists and that does not make them wrong, ballwashers or a disciple of Daves this conversation would go much better. If the folks who like the state of the band would see that some wish for things to be different, the conversation would not turn ugly. It is ok for people to have a different opinion then you. It is not ok to make it seem like those with differing opinions are invalid.

    I personally get why someone would have a perspective that the setlists could be better. I also get why some can go to any show and dance and sing and have a great time. Both of those things are valid.
    To all the people complaining.. I get the arguments either way, but the level of vitriol over something you have the right to walk away from if you no longer like it... why the fuck are you here? This band has been doing the same thing for I don't know how many years now. It's not changing. Maybe you should.

    Just a plea for a little self reflection.

    To those of you paying higher prices than ever for tickets to these shows.. I agree that they don't diversify the sets enough. They also play a lot of songs a large contingent does not want to hear. You have a right to complain, but it's to going to change anything. i've read all of you over the years venting and I've participated on occasion. Do what I did. Quit going to multiple shows and you won't be disappointed. The band as an organization does not want your money that badly, so take the hint and scale it down or quit going altogether. Go be happy. Life is too short to spend money on something you dislike so much.

    For those of you that like the vibe of DMB and need a new outlet, I recommend checking out a My Morning Jacket show. Always great.

    EDIT: not intended as a response on the poster I quoted.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:03 PM   #466
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    To all the people complaining.. I get the arguments either way, but the level of vitriol over something you have the right to walk away from if you no longer like it... why the fuck are you here? This band has been doing the same thing for I don't know how many years now. It's not changing. Maybe you should.

    Just a plea for a little self reflection.

    To those of you paying higher prices than ever for tickets to these shows.. I agree that they don't diversify the sets enough. They also play a lot of songs a large contingent does not want to hear. You have a right to complain, but it's to going to change anything. i've read all of you over the years venting and I've participated on occasion. Do what I did. Quit going to multiple shows and you won't be disappointed. The band as an organization does not want your money that badly, so take the hint and scale it down or quit going altogether. Go be happy. Life is too short to spend money on something you dislike so much.

    For those of you that like the vibe of DMB and need a new outlet, I recommend checking out a My Morning Jacket show. Always great.

    EDIT: not intended as a response on the poster I quoted.
    DMB still plays good sets. DMB still plays bad sets.

    Group A says "good" sets are "good". Group A says "bad" sets are "bad".

    Group B calls what Group A does absurd. Group A fires back.

    Group B gets defensive. Group A laughs at Group B for being stupid.

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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:05 PM   #467
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    DMB still plays good sets. DMB still plays bad sets.

    Group A says good sets are "good". Group A says bad sets are "bad".

    Group B calls what Group A does absurd. Group A fires back.

    Group B gets defensive. Group B laughs at Group A for being stupid.
    All of you need to chill the hell out. Like what you like. Let whoever likes what you don't like it. Move on. It's not rocket science. At least go find something worthwhile to argue about.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:07 PM   #468
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    All of you need to chill the hell out. Like what you like. Let whoever likes what you don't like it. Move on. It's not rocket science. At least go find something worthwhile to argue about.
    You're telling that to the wrong person. It's the people that can't understand why people don't like what they do that need to chill the fuck out.

    I'm not going to The Fam telling them they're idiots for liking every setlist. But people are telling fans that don't like certain setlists that they're being ridiculous. It's a neverending avalanche of snowflakes.

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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:09 PM   #469
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    You're telling that to the wrong person. It's the people that can't understand why people don't like what they do that need to chill the fuck out.
    Quoting you doesn't mean it's directed at you. Same as the dude I quoted above.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:10 PM   #470
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    To all the people complaining.. I get the arguments either way, but the level of vitriol over something you have the right to walk away from if you no longer like it... why the fuck are you here? This band has been doing the same thing for I don't know how many years now. It's not changing. Maybe you should.
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    All of you need to chill the hell out. Like what you like. Let whoever likes what you don't like it. Move on. It's not rocket science. At least go find something worthwhile to argue about.
    Can I apply your same logic here? Why are you in this thread? There are many sub-forums and threads on these boards that are positive and 'happy'. Maybe you should change and go there instead?

    Allow people to have an outlet and vent, it's not really your business and you don't have to choose to be here.

    Also, do you think this will stop because of your post? People will complain forever, and it's always been that way. It won't stop because you're asking people to reconsider.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:15 PM   #471
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    Quoting you doesn't mean it's directed at you. Same as the dude I quoted above.
    It was confusing since you quoted me and then said "All of you".
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    Can I apply your same logic here? Why are you in this thread? There are many sub-forums and threads on these boards that are positive and 'happy'. Maybe you should change and go there instead?

    Allow people to have an outlet and vent, it's not really your business and you don't have to choose to be here.
    I'm venting, you're venting.. who's telling who not to vent? Not me. Vent all you want. But if people sound like entitled babies and I want to tell them in a public forum, I can do that. Not my business? It's in a public forum dude. Lighten up.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:17 PM   #473
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    It was confusing since you quoted me and then said "All of you".
    Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. I really don't know. I didn't back read that much.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 01:22 PM   #474
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    I'm venting, you're venting.. who's telling who not to vent? Not me. Vent all you want. But if people sound like entitled babies and I want to tell them in a public forum, I can do that. Not my business? It's in a public forum dude. Lighten up.
    Lighten up? I'm laughing at your passionate melt where you tell people what to do because you did something. I haven't burnt a calorie of emotion or energy responding to you. Just having a good time laughing at the contradictory. It's even funnier now because you're evidently blind to the irony.
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    Lighten up? I'm laughing at your passionate melt where you tell people what to do because you did something. I haven't burnt a calorie of emotion or energy responding to you. Just having a good time laughing at the contradictory. It's even funnier now because you're evidently blind to the irony.
    lol. Keep going... I'm listening.
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    Old 06-17-2019, 02:00 PM   #476
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    lol. Keep going... I'm listening.
    I was going to say the same thing if you responded . I got not beef with you dude.
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    [QUOTE=Antiramie;17473832]DMB still plays good sets. DMB still plays bad sets.

    Group A says "good" sets are "good". Group A says "bad" sets are "bad".

    Group B calls what Group A does absurd. Group A immediately volleys personal attacks because has no other argument style

    Group B attempts to have some semblance of a grown up person's conversation. Group A melt's down hysterically for hours on end

    Fixed that for you.

    EDIT: at least the mod had the sense to remove his uncalled for personal attack from last night. You're just a hot mess though.

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    Old 06-17-2019, 02:23 PM   #478
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    DMB still plays good sets. DMB still plays bad sets.

    Group A says "good" sets are "good". Group A says "bad" sets are "bad".

    Group B calls what Group A does absurd. Group A immediately volleys personal attacks because has no other argument style

    Group B attempts to have some semblance of a grown up person's conversation. Group A melt's down hysterically for hours on end

    Fixed that for you.

    EDIT: at least the mod had the sense to remove his uncalled for personal attack from last night. You're just a hot mess though.
    Your career does suit you well (assuming I'm guessing the right career based on prior posts). Do you ever let up or are you just the argue machine?
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    Old 06-17-2019, 02:30 PM   #479
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    Your career does suit you well (assuming I'm guessing the right career based on prior posts). Do you ever let up or are you just the argue machine?
    This post is directed at karczews41, not Ant.. no idea what karczews41 did to the post.

    Wow, wtf is happening? I could fix it but oh well.
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    Your career does suit you well (assuming I'm guessing the right career based on prior posts). Do you ever let up or are you just the argue machine?
    I got no problem letting up once people stop mischaracterizing what's transpired. I don't just throw out personal attacks, but will respond. I can handle when people disagree with me. What I won't accept is some feeble little twat rage posting straight up lies for hours without an ability to back up his position.
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