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Old 10-15-2018, 06:58 PM   #1531
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Re: The Batson Sessions: DMB Studio Efforts from 2006 Leaked - News Discussion

Wow at the whispering at the beginning of “Shotgun”....

“You shoulda killed me.... here we go”. Given what the song is about, this gave me literal chills.
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    For anyone mentioning drum machines: if you think the drum machines were a production choice, you don't understand what you're listening to.

    Bands WRITE to drum machines. They give you a groove to write to in sessions without a drummer. Batson would have known the electronic beat would be replaced with Carter at a later date.

    What we are hearing on the drum machine tracks is the very session when the song was pulled out of thin air. I.e. 'Idea of you' on disc one is the sound of Dave WRITING THE SONG. He didn't go in with the full song and Batson said 'Hey, Dave! Let's stick this out-of-character drum loop on it!' Idiots
    I don't understand why people get so upset that other's don't understand how music is written or done in the studios. It's not like this stuff is common knowledge. I wouldn't expect anyone to come into the McDonald's I work at and know how to mix up the super secret Big Mac sauce. Geez.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 07:16 PM   #1533
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    I don't understand why people get so upset that other's don't understand how music is written or done in the studios. It's not like this stuff is common knowledge. I wouldn't expect anyone to come into the McDonald's I work at and know how to mix up the super secret Big Mac sauce. Geez.
    no I think the frustration is found in the people thinking that what they heard in the Spring session was going to be a final product, or even in the Winter session. The band was really just throwing down ideas. So I think the frustration happens when people come in here bashing on the drum machine in Spring Cant Stop or Spring Shotgun, when really the band was just putting stuff down. Not a final product.

    I don't expect people to understand the music production process, I just would hope that people would dig a little bit into understanding that these really were just demos basically.

    and the same thing goes for people being upset that Roi or Boyd weren't on many of these. Its pretty well documented that when the band records songs, it starts with carter, dave and stefan laying down the skeleton and basic structure of the song. followed by Boyd and Roi coming in to flesh things out.
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    I don't understand why people get so upset that other's don't understand how music is written or done in the studios. It's not like this stuff is common knowledge. I wouldn't expect anyone to come into the McDonald's I work at and know how to mix up the super secret Big Mac sauce. Geez.


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    I thought that shit was just thousand island?
    Thousand Island mixed with some of Ronald McDonald's original face paint. Thats what they don't tell you.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 07:28 PM   #1536
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    But on an actual note (not that the band would ever do this) I would love a 5 minute ABC as an E1 with the Break Free outro spliced right in the middle of it. Make it the new KKJ.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 07:48 PM   #1537
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    It took a while, but I finally here the ABC similarities in Do You Remember.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 08:11 PM   #1538
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    Old 10-15-2018, 08:17 PM   #1539
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    Just realizing that Come On Come On was played at this session too-

    https://www.antsmarching.org/tour/Vi...hp?ShowID=4102

    I wonder if that’s what ultimately became the album cut on CT
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    Re: The Batson Sessions: DMB Studio Efforts from 2006 Leaked - News Discussion

    Listened to these straight through for 2 days now...Spring Shotgun with some completed lyrics would be excellent...really, really makes you realize what an adequate Boyd meant to the sound of this band.

    Break For It is an excellent tune without much bells and whistles, really surprised it never turned into anything much...even Break Free is a good tune, I've seen it twice live and if they could capture that in the studio it would be a stud.

    That Recovered, ABC and Robert Randolph run at the end of the Winter sessions is awesome...throw Roi on ABC and that Randolph jam and shit, just put that on an album now.

    Early Home should have been on a record by now.

    Sure there are plenty of things in these that are clearly rough sketches and ideas...but there's also a lot here to suggest that when Batson let's these guys do their thing without a bunch of overproduction nonsense...they are pretty fucking great.

    And finally, this is obvious, but how freaking cool that months ago we were all willing to throw hordes of money into a fund to secure these disks and here they are...for our listening pleasure, 12 years after they were recorded and we finally get to sift through and debate them...and most of all enjoy them.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 08:26 PM   #1541
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    ^ I think you mean the Winter Shotgun, not the one with the drum machine, lol
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    Early Home may be the best Dave solo song since Gravedigger.
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    Tom Waits would own Early Home
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    Just realizing that Come On Come On was played at this session too-

    https://www.antsmarching.org/tour/Vi...hp?ShowID=4102

    I wonder if that’s what ultimately became the album cut on CT
    The drum track for COCO has the intro from the spring sessions and the rest from the winter sessions. I’d bet most of it is from the Winter sessions and they just recorded a few more things on top of it.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 09:26 PM   #1545
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    I don't understand why people get so upset that other's don't understand how music is written or done in the studios. It's not like this stuff is common knowledge. I wouldn't expect anyone to come into the McDonald's I work at and know how to mix up the super secret Big Mac sauce. Geez.
    Doesn't is come in it's own bottle/tube/packaging?
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    Is anyone else wondering (read: desperately hoping) the Dave scat/chant song from Stand Up promo vid #3 is African Whole End? I remember digging that clip so much back in the day.

    And how amazing if Arabic Joint is the SBC soundcheck.

    Third disk must surface. I gotsta know!
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    Is anyone else wondering (read: desperately hoping) the Dave scat/chant song from Stand Up promo vid #3 is African Whole End? I remember digging that clip so much back in the day.

    And how amazing if Arabic Joint is the SBC soundcheck.

    Third disk must surface. I gotsta know!
    Do you have copies of promo vids 1,2,3,5?

    I can only find #4 on youtube
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    Do you have copies of promo vids 1,2,3,5?

    I can only find #4 on youtube
    No, I wish! I was trying some detective work on the computer webs to unearth it, but nothing yet.
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    I found the secret to a good DMB album. Tim.

    Albums with Tim.

    Under the Table and Dreaming (1994)
    Crash (1996)
    Before These Crowded Streets (1998)
    Big Whiskey & the GrooGrux King (2009)
    Away from the World (2012)
    Come Tomorrow (2018)

    Without:

    Everyday (2001)
    Busted Stuff (2002)
    Stand Up (2005)

    BS is the only good album that is Timless.

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    I don't quite get the Drive Me Away love. It's not bad, but something in there suffers

    Most enjoyed the run of Recovered, ABC, Robert Randolph. I think Dave clearly gets hung on lyrics and more often than not, I'm beginning not to enjoy a lot of their stuff simply because of the lyrics...and for that, I think the band should really explore an instrumental album with limited lines or just a little chorus.

    Like I said, something like ABC really, really works for me
    If it featured a lot of soloing and improvisation, especially from the horns, hell yes.
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    Old 10-16-2018, 12:06 AM   #1551
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    Did Roi's part from Can't Stop on Come Tomorrow come from the Batson Sessions?
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    Old 10-16-2018, 01:51 AM   #1552
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    ^ I think you mean the Winter Shotgun, not the one with the drum machine, lol
    Yeah, the drum machine one wasn't even Shotgun then, just a sketch.

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    Tom Waits would own Early Home
    I don't think it's up Waits' alley, even in his 70's heyday.
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    Old 10-16-2018, 03:47 AM   #1553
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    I thought I saw someone post a tab for Early Home in this thread a few days back... I went back and looked and cant find it.
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    Old 10-16-2018, 03:59 AM   #1554
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    I found the secret to a good DMB album. Tim.

    Albums with Tim.

    Under the Table and Dreaming (1994)
    Crash (1996)
    Before These Crowded Streets (1998)
    Big Whiskey & the GrooGrux King (2009)
    Away from the World (2012)
    Come Tomorrow (2018)

    Without:

    Everyday (2001)
    Busted Stuff (2002)
    Stand Up (2005)

    BS is the only good album that is Timless.
    Busted stuff isn’t good? News to me.
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    Busted stuff isn’t good? News to me.

    you skipped over a sentence
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    But on an actual note (not that the band would ever do this) I would love a 5 minute ABC as an E1 with the Break Free outro spliced right in the middle of it. Make it the new KKJ.
    We don't need a new KKJ. The old KKJ was/is just fine.
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    Any band reactions yet to these developments?
    I'm pretty sure they aren't losing any sleep over it.
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    Early Home quick tab/chords

    Intro/Verse
    F Bb C

    Chorus
    "Dave Chords"
    E 5 3 3 1
    A 0 0 0 0
    D 0 0 0 0
    G 5 4 3 2
    B x x x x
    e x x x x
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    It took a while, but I finally here the ABC similarities in Do You Remember.
    Oh good, I'm not the only one!
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    Old 10-16-2018, 05:32 AM   #1560
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    Did Roi's part from Can't Stop on Come Tomorrow come from the Batson Sessions?
    That version is what was used on CT, but with changes obviously.

    Same goes for IOY.
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