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Old 11-20-2021, 10:09 PM   #1
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What was your liberation list?

I feel like this could be interesting.

Obviously liberating songs is something that has been pretty important for this band and the fanbase, but what kind of effect does it have on us over the years?

We all came to the band at varying points in their career, and I think the songs that they weren't playing being such good songs was something that really drew a lot of us in. But, once you hit the point in your fandom that you become aware of the liberation list, I feel like that sets us on a whole different level of fandom. I'm biased of course, but I think the 2008-2011 tours were the peak time for the liberation list. It was a really great mix of: songs that hadn't been played for a really long time but still had a sense of "anything is possible!", a bunch of actual great songs that just weren't being played past their debuts, and it the time since last play had a pretty good variety I think in 2022, the list is too filled with stuff that wasn't very good so we don't miss it as well as being so long ago since it was played that it is very clearly totally unlikely to ever come back.

So what was the liberation list when you first started to care about it? What has come off of it since then that may have lost some of your interest because it has been played more recently? What have you actually seen since then? How did you feel seeing it knowing how rare it is/once was? What have you given up on ever seeing?

Mine was:

People People
Spotlight
Get In Line
Blue Water
Little Thing
Let You Down
#40
For the Beauty of Wynona
Me and Julio
Mother Father
Angel from Montgomery
Busted Stuff
Angel
True Reflections
Kit Kat Jam
Spoon
Long Black Veil
Captain
I Did It
Crazy Easy
Space Between
Good Good Time
Help Myself
Sugar Will
Cry Freedom
Hello Again
Minarets
Christmas Song
Everybody Wake Up
Joyride
Kill the King
American Baby
Steady As We Go
JTR
Digging a Ditch
Last Stop
Big Eyed Fish
Break Free
So Right
Cortez the Killer



Since then, Blue Water has gotten some heavier segue play, Let You Down showed up at Alpine as a solo song, #40 is around, Busted Stuff has been busted out, True Reflections has been played (though probably never again).

What’s interesting is that everything post Angel has been played in the years since. I’ve gotten Space Between, Good Good Time, Help Myself, Everybody Wake Up, JTR, and Sugar Will and don’t remember or think of any of those performances except GGT. I’m still chasing a lot of them and would be happy to see any of them, but they’ve become much less of a “wow! They played that song”

At the same time, my first show saw them play Big Eyed Fish, Last Stop, Digging a Ditch, and Christmas Song, then shortly after I saw Kill the King, American Baby, Break Free, So Right, and Cortez.

I think a lot of the current list deserves to stay on that list, and nothing is really so far back in time that it would be nuts and unprecedented/unexpected to see them play it. I don’t think anything in the top 20 songs ever gets liberated again (MAYBE Angel or a one-off full band #40) and that’s okay. I think Good Good Time sticks out to me a lot because I saw it get liberated and was excited to see it back and hear it but also disappointed that it didn’t sound nearly as interesting as it used to.

Maybe we're all spoiled by the variety they've played in the last decade
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    Re: What was your liberation list?

    Chiming in as I think this is interesting & cool. I could guess at a few (Spotlight, People People, ect.) but couldn't tell you what was on the liberation list during my first few years (first show in '08- caught Two Step & The Dreaming Tree back to back mid-set, WOW). What I do know looking back at the sets, is I saw some great shows and yes- many LIBS during those years. Still a little sour I missed the 2010 tour opener which was LIB city.

    From Angel down: the one's I'd personally want to see most would be The Last Stop and JTR (don't believe I've ever seen) then LBV, Crazy Easy, Break Free (1 time each I believe)

    For songs not played in 2021, hope to see The Dreaming Tree and Drunken Soldier make some appearances in 2022. And Full Stop, of course.

    Looking forward to hearing any other's input, thanks for the thread idea Crounsa.
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    Old 11-22-2021, 10:02 PM   #3
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    Re: What was your liberation list?

    Somedevil#36 - please tone it down. The OP asked a legitimate question, no need to be insulting at all. Mod hat off but please cool it for all our sakes.

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    Old 11-22-2021, 10:11 PM   #4
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    Re: What was your liberation list?

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    Chiming in as I think this is interesting & cool. I could guess at a few (Spotlight, People People, ect.) but couldn't tell you what was on the liberation list during my first few years (first show in '08- caught Two Step & The Dreaming Tree back to back mid-set, WOW).
    Damn, you are making me feel old, I started seeing then a few times a year starting in early 1995 and have seen some epic shows. Born at the right time I guess and located just outside NYC so I can hit up MSG, Meadows, Giants Stadium, Jones Beach, Central Park, Randall's Island, SPAC, Great Woods, Roseland by car, etc, etc - not to mention travelling for shows like C-Ville 2001 and Red Rocks 2005. I wish more younger fans would have a chance to see them in their peak days. Cheers!
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    Old 11-23-2021, 06:34 AM   #5
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    Re: What was your liberation list?

    I am just going to go with the ones I personally saw over the past 10-12 years, as I've been quite fortunate:

    JTR - I was present at all 3 most recent JTR liberations (top 3 song for me).
    Busted Stuff
    Joy Ride
    Hello Again
    Kit Kat Jam
    Cry Freedom
    Captain
    Break Free
    Kill the King
    40
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    Drunken Soldier
    Cortez the Killer
    The Riff
    Stolen Away
    Beach Ball
    Sweet Up and Down
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    Re: What was your liberation list?

    Here's my list of liberations seen:

    07.07.12 – Little Thing (5912 days)
    09.17.21 – Rye Whiskey (4457 days)
    08.31.14 – Steady As We Go (2947 days)
    06.24.11 – Captain (2523 days)
    06.03.12 – Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives) (2362 days)
    08.31.13 – #34 (2160 days)
    06.05.10 – Cry Freedom (1896 days)
    07.08.11 – Joyride (1840 days)
    06.26.11 – Kill the King (1821 days)
    06.25.11 – Break Free (1746 days)
    02.03.18 – Time Bomb (1673 days)
    02.03.18 – Alligator Pie (1666 days)
    02.03.18 – Runnin' Down a Dream (1610 days)
    06.02.10 – Digging a Ditch (1362 days)
    02.03.18 – You Never Know (1288 days)
    08.31.18 – Spaceman (1024 days)
    09.18.21 – Christmas Song (1008 days)

    Little Thing was awesome opening Alpine N2 2012.
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    Re: What was your liberation list?

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    Damn, you are making me feel old, I started seeing then a few times a year starting in early 1995 and have seen some epic shows. Born at the right time I guess and located just outside NYC so I can hit up MSG, Meadows, Giants Stadium, Jones Beach, Central Park, Randall's Island, SPAC, Great Woods, Roseland by car, etc, etc - not to mention travelling for shows like C-Ville 2001 and Red Rocks 2005. I wish more younger fans would have a chance to see them in their peak days. Cheers!
    haha my friends and I have recently talked about that- how being born even 10 years earlier (which would put me at 41 vs. 31) would have been cool for a variety of reasons ranging from better music, ski areas not being as crowded, more of life before smartphones, ect. but hey it all happens for a reason and I'm happy I've still caught a good amount of DMB. You've seen some rad shows! To your point about location- I do miss that about living back East


    Hell of a list, Cscottrun & Sabres
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    09.17.21 – Rye Whiskey (4457 days)
    06.26.15 – Down by the River (2952 days)
    06.26.15 – Smooth Rider (2169 days)
    07.12.19 – Joyride (2142 days)
    07.14.18 – JTR (1837 days)
    06.10.15 – Cortez the Killer (1362 days)
    11.30.18 – Cortez the Killer (1269 days)
    06.15.19 – Sugar Will (1050 days)
    07.12.14 – Burning Down the House (1028 days)
    06.15.19 – The Maker (1014 days)
    09.18.21 – Christmas Song (1008 days)
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    06.21.08 – #40 (3245 days)
    08.07.07 – Sweet Up and Down (2569 days)
    06.24.11 – Captain (2523 days)
    07.14.18 – JTR (1837 days)
    06.26.11 – Kill the King (1821 days)
    06.25.11 – Break Free (1746 days)
    06.18.03 – Pay for What You Get (1442 days)
    06.18.03 – Cry Freedom (1439 days)
    06.17.03 – The Last Stop (1437 days)
    06.18.03 – The Dreaming Tree (1412 days)
    09.08.02 – Halloween (1363 days)
    06.24.16 – Fool to Think (1081 days)
    07.09.10 – Still Water (1057 days)
    05.26.13 – Recently (1052 days)
    05.26.13 – JTR (1048 days)
    06.17.03 – Typical Situation (1025 days)
    06.18.03 – The Maker (1023 days)
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