Serial Podcast (Now with poll!)

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Because Jay said that's where he picked him up, no?. If your star witness is saying something completely false, that's an issue.

compared to all the other things he said that were completely false?

[justink]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Because Jay said that's where he picked him up, no?. If your star witness is saying something completely false, that's an issue.

jay just said he picked him up at best buy. weather adnan called him from best buy payphone or taco bell next door is irrelevant.

jay put adnan at best buy and the timeline fits.

"there aren't any payphones at best buy in 2014" is nothing but a useless distraction from the facts presented at trial.

another reason why this podcast is a joke. they literally wasted an entire episode and around $80k in ad revenue in weather there were payphones at best buy or not.

spoiler: it was 1999, payphones were everywhere, and it appears it has been answered. http://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcas..._the_best_buy/

[thebridge15]

the lawyer sounds like a huge bitch on the recordings. would 100% grate on me if I were a juror

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

compared to all the other things he said that were completely false?

I mean, I was just pointing out why it was an issue. A lot of things everyone is saying is bullshit, we just don't know who and what things

Originally Posted by justink

jay just said he picked him up at best buy. weather adnan called him from best buy payphone or taco bell next door is irrelevant.

jay put adnan at best buy and the timeline fits.

"there aren't any payphones at best buy in 2014" is nothing but a useless distraction from the facts presented at trial.

another reason why this podcast is a joke. they literally wasted an entire episode and around $80k in ad revenue in weather there were payphones at best buy or not.

Well, yes and no. The original story from one of them was that he called from the Best Buy pay phone. That's why the podcast talked about it because it was one of the few details people actually "remembered" so it was worthwhile to investigate it, regardless of how well or poorly she did that.

Also, you seem a little too upset at the existence of this podcast....it's weird.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

the lawyer sounds like a huge bitch on the recordings. would 100% grate on me if I were a juror

I said that to my gf. Don't care how successful she was, I don't think I would have been able to hire her...

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

I said that to my gf. Don't care how successful she was, I don't think I would have been able to hire her...

plus, I don't know how well the first trial was going (SK might have been winging it saying it was going well) but she was the reason that it was a mistrial in the first place

[justink]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Well, yes and no. The original story from one of them was that he called from the Best Buy pay phone. That's why the podcast talked about it because it was one of the few details people actually "remembered" so it was worthwhile to investigate it, regardless of how well or poorly she did that.

Also, you seem a little too upset at the existence of this podcast....it's weird.

thing is, if adnan tells jay that he called him from the best buy payphone, then that's the only thing jay has to go on. it's not like he could look at his phone and confirm that in 1999.

and yeah. this podcast is annoying. but i'll finish it out.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by justink

thing is, if adnan tells jay that he called him from the best buy payphone, then that's the only thing jay has to go on. it's not like he could look at his phone and confirm that in 1999.

and yeah. this podcast is annoying. but i'll finish it out.

True, I don't mean to sound like I think it's some make or break info, it was just relevant because of what all these people were saying. He was at Best Buy, he was in the library, he was at track, etc etc. She was trying to line up one fact in a case of very few. It ends up not being as powerful as she hoped but I see why she'd pursue it.

[two-by-twostep]

Didn't read anything besides the OP because I'm only on Episode 4 but man is this compelling. A friend recommended this to me at Thanksgiving and since then I've seen people go nuts for it. Can't wait to get through the rest of the episodes and backread this thread.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

I said that to my gf. Don't care how successful she was, I don't think I would have been able to hire her...

Listening to the trial recordings, I wanted to grab my phone and throw it out the window of my moving car.

[stlbluespower]

have listened to all ten episodes so far. Sarah K is doing a good job presenting this and she is very listenable (though too much of an Adnan fan for my tastes). I lean towards him being involved in some fashion. If so, wonder why he still refuses to go after Jay, since Jay is the cause for him being in jail?

[Arby]

Originally Posted by justink

i think it's pretty pointless and nothing short of a money grab. you can get the same entertainment by watching 20/20 every friday.

adnan is guilty as sin. jay helped him but he got a deal. "first to talk, walks".

/podcast

Its a great story and a FREE podcast.

[Arby]

This last episode was pretty crazy. Whether Adnon did it or not, its hard to get past Gutierrez fucking things up

[zajDmB1]

Funny tweets (if read in SK's voice) from Chris Kelly, writer for SNL:

“And then Adnan and I danced. Slowly. Right there in his cell. He kissed me. And it didnt SEEM like a murderer’s kiss. Next week on Serial.”

"I went back in a time machine, and witnessed the murder of Hae Min. I saw Adnan do it. But theres still the issue of Jay. Whats his DEAL?"

"Friends who knew Hitler said he was a nice guy who liked to paint. Then theres Jay. He wasnt alive in the 40s. But was he? Next on Serial."

[justink]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Funny tweets (if read in SK's voice) from Chris Kelly, writer for SNL:

“And then Adnan and I danced. Slowly. Right there in his cell. He kissed me. And it didnt SEEM like a murderer’s kiss. Next week on Serial.”

"I went back in a time machine, and witnessed the murder of Hae Min. I saw Adnan do it. But theres still the issue of Jay. Whats his DEAL?"

"Friends who knew Hitler said he was a nice guy who liked to paint. Then theres Jay. He wasnt alive in the 40s. But was he? Next on Serial."

[Lew Zealand]

The one thing that bothers me about the show is that they didn't finish researching the story before they started it. It seems to me that something like this benefits from having all the information up front so you can structure the episodes appropriately. Like, the bombshell about Jay in episode 10 should have been presented back in the Jay episode because it makes sense of everything he said and did.

[Julia Roberts]

Originally Posted by justink

jay just said he picked him up at best buy. weather adnan called him from best buy payphone or taco bell next door is irrelevant.

jay put adnan at best buy and the timeline fits.

"there aren't any payphones at best buy in 2014" is nothing but a useless distraction from the facts presented at trial.

another reason why this podcast is a joke. they literally wasted an entire episode and around $80k in ad revenue in weather there were payphones at best buy or not.

spoiler: it was 1999, payphones were everywhere, and it appears it has been answered. http://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcas..._the_best_buy/

Even though we disagree, you make some good points. However, I'm sure we can both agree that the word you're looking for is 'whether'.

Edit: And yeah, Sarah seems to have a thing for Adnan. Badboys...

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by stlbluespower

have listened to all ten episodes so far. Sarah K is doing a good job presenting this and she is very listenable (though too much of an Adnan fan for my tastes). I lean towards him being involved in some fashion. If so, wonder why he still refuses to go after Jay, since Jay is the cause for him being in jail?

Because he did it?

[zajDmB1]

They had to have both done it. One thing that really bugs me about Adnan is how he's said once or twice that he and Jay weren't friends. Then the story unfolds and they obviously smoke together a ton, plus the one dude was like "yea, Jay picked him up from track almost every day" or something. It's like, how do you not consider that person a friend at that point?

[Julia Roberts]

Gotta say that the pervert janitor randomly peeing and stumbling upon the body was very suspicious.

[ExistenceNow]

I definitely think Jay was there when she died.

[justink]

Originally Posted by Lew Zealand

The one thing that bothers me about the show is that they didn't finish researching the story before they started it. It seems to me that something like this benefits from having all the information up front so you can structure the episodes appropriately. Like, the bombshell about Jay in episode 10 should have been presented back in the Jay episode because it makes sense of everything he said and did.

that's called "milking" a situation. it's intentional.

[Lew Zealand]

I might've bought it as milking at first but there's been enough talk of how the show is being made in other outlets that I don't buy it at this point. I understand it's being structured to be entertaining but I also think that structure is hiding that maybe Koenig and crew don't necessarily know what they're doing with the show. It started pretty strong, and maybe I brought some personal expectations in at the start based on that first episode, but I feel like the show/story is starting to flounder a bit. There's only two episodes left so I'll definitely stick with it. But I expect the backlash once it's over to be immense.

[zajDmB1]

It's on ongoing type of journalism. There's definitely pros and cons to how they're doing it, but since the issue hasn't been resolved in real life, there's obviously not an end point, or else we'd already know it. So I think it makes it more authentic that we're basically learning/evolving with her.

I'm sure I could agree with arguments on both sides of the situation, but I'm sure Justin also just doesn't like it because it's from libz at NPR. Release this on Drudge and it'd be best podcast ever! (and make Adnan a white guy)

[justink]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

It's on ongoing type of journalism. There's definitely pros and cons to how they're doing it, but since the issue hasn't been resolved in real life, there's obviously not an end point, or else we'd already know it. So I think it makes it more authentic that we're basically learning/evolving with her.

I'm sure I could agree with arguments on both sides of the situation, but I'm sure Justin also just doesn't like it because it's from libz at NPR. Release this on Drudge and it'd be best podcast ever! (and make Adnan a white guy)

you are more predictable than you think i am.

i'm actually quite the liberal.

don't be judgemental. just because i'm from Texas doesn't mean i'm a tea partier.

[dre2142]

Justink being justink again? wow. Bashes it as a money grab but obviously has been followign along every episode very veyr closely so its working...if he didnt like it he wouldve stopped as episode 1.

And he does have an appeal....http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...urt-adnan-syed

[Arby]

Originally Posted by Lew Zealand

The one thing that bothers me about the show is that they didn't finish researching the story before they started it. It seems to me that something like this benefits from having all the information up front so you can structure the episodes appropriately. Like, the bombshell about Jay in episode 10 should have been presented back in the Jay episode because it makes sense of everything he said and did.

This is kind of my thought as well. For the first number of episodes I THOUGHT everything was already complete and they were just releasing week by week. I didnt pick up on it til later that they were still researching and recording which does seem odd to me for reasons you explained.

[Taylor36]

A friend of mine noted that almost all of the women he knows who listen to the show think Adnan is innocent, and the only ones who think he is definitely guilty are men. I thought it was an interesting observation.

I've been listening to the show with my wife, and she thinks Jay is so sketchy and "how could anyone believe him?" But that's the exact reason that I do believe him. I just don't think a guy that sketchy could be thoroughly believed unless he was telling the truth (or at least mostly truth). Jay is definitely hiding something (probably downplaying his or someone else's involvement) but I think Adnan's guilty.

[YouNeverKnow25]

so he's such a liar that he's telling the truth? I'm no expert but that doesn't seem to stand up to much logical analysis.

[Jordan#41]

Okay, I'm gonna give this thing a shot. See if I like it. Starting episode 1 now.