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Old 07-17-2018, 01:37 PM   #31
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He would've probably said the road was tough on him and his family. I thought that's what he said publicly? I think we are all speculating that it was more than that
True. Also at the end of the day it's not really my business. Doesn't mean the curiosity isn't there though.
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    He said CT may be the best work he’s ever done. I mean I like the album but Christ. No
    He says that about every album. Record company probably conditions them to say this for sales. I mean, if he said 'This album sucks and Busted Stuff was the last worthy album we made', the marketing department would be calling.

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    I don't know that it was ever confirmed the general consensus was it related to his marriage in some way.
    Yep, that's what I remember too. I love your username, how topical.
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    Old 07-17-2018, 01:40 PM   #33
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    He says that about every album. Record company probably conditions them to say this for sales. I mean, if he said 'This album sucks and Busted Stuff was the last worthy album we made', the marketing department would be calling.



    Yep, that's what I remember too. I love your username, how topical.
    Fair enough. Makes sense.
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    He said CT may be the best work he’s ever done. I mean I like the album but Christ. No
    he's selling the album. it's his job to sell the album. he's a professional.
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    Old 07-17-2018, 01:41 PM   #35
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    True. Also at the end of the day it's not really my business. Doesn't mean the curiosity isn't there though.
    Exactly. Would've been pretty messed up to ask honestly. In '05, my buddies and some gals sat outside Dave's house in Seattle and debated on who was going to knock on his door (we thought we saw him in the living room). Nobody did it and I'm so glad we didn't!

    Especially after reading this today from the iHeart interview

    'I don't want people knocking on my door and saying I made you this jam or won't you come to my wedding? I don't want strangers coming up to my house. ' https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveba.../#18e9013e1936
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    Judging by this interview I don't see a violin joining the band in the near future, and I am glad that's the case.
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    Judging by this interview I don't see a violin joining the band in the near future
    I agree with this takeaway.
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    Old 07-17-2018, 01:44 PM   #38
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    Exactly. Would've been pretty messed up to ask honestly. In '05, my buddies and some gals sat outside Dave's house in Seattle and debated on who was going to knock on his door (we thought we saw him in the living room). Nobody did it and I'm so glad we didn't!

    Especially after reading this today from the iHeart interview

    'I don't want people knocking on my door and saying I made you this jam or won't you come to my wedding? I don't want strangers coming up to my house. ' https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveba.../#18e9013e1936
    True. It can be really easy to forget that the guys in this band (or anyone with any level of fame really) are people who desire privacy just like the rest of us. It's why I cringe any time I hear stories of fans going out of their way to track down celebrities at hotels/restaurants/etc
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    Old 07-17-2018, 01:49 PM   #39
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    True. It can be really easy to forget that the guys in this band (or anyone with any level of fame really) are people who desire privacy just like the rest of us. It's why I cringe any time I hear stories of fans going out of their way to track down celebrities at hotels/restaurants/etc
    Yep, same. Although I think I'd try to shake Dave's hands if I saw him at the airport or something. I sat across from Bill Lundberg (Office Space) at O'Hare once.. almost said something but he was with his daughter. My rule of thumb is if they are with family, it's a no-go zone.
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    Yep, same. Although I think I'd try to shake Dave's hands if I saw him at the airport or something. I sat across from Bill Lundberg (Office Space) at O'Hare once.. almost said something but he was with his daughter. My rule of thumb is if they are with family, it's a no-go zone.
    Oh yeah if i saw anyone in the band just walking down the street by themselves I'd definitely shake their hand or something. I just won't seek out houses or try to scout hotels like I know some people have done.

    And I agree. If they're with their family it's a hard no
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    Oh yeah if i saw anyone in the band just walking down the street by themselves I'd definitely shake their hand or something. I just won't seek out houses or try to scout hotels like I know some people have done.

    And I agree. If they're with their family it's a hard no
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    there has to be something deeper than Dave's current verbal thoughts. Violin and horn for a rock band wasn't heard of in the 90s, or even now. Those two elements along with Dave's song writing and acoustic abilities are what drew and grew their audience. You can't have DMB without violin and horns. If Dave is cool with it, since he is no longer a fan of the DMB sound, then fine, stop playing with DMB, Dave. Put up or shut up. Either you want to or you don't.

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    there has to be something deeper than Dave's current verbal thoughts. Violin and horn for a rock band wasn't heard of in the 90s, or even now. Those two elements along with Dave's song writing and acoustic abilities are what drew and grew their audience. You can't have DMB without violin and horns. If Dave is cool with it, since he is no longer a fan of the DMB sound, then fine, stop playing with DMB, Dave. Put up or shut up.
    This will be interesting to see how it plays out in 2019 given they tour. In 2018, they essentially conned the fans by announcing BT was out right after the tickets went on sale.

    Had fans known there would be no violinist, how would sales have gone? Assuming they don't replace Boyd, 2019 will answer this question.

    I perosnally don't think it'll mater much but we'll see.
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    This will be interesting to see how it plays out in 2019 given they tour. In 2018, they essentially conned the fans by announcing BT was out right after the tickets went on sale.

    Had fans known there would be no violinist, how would sales have gone? Assuming they don't replace Boyd, 2019 will answer this question.

    I perosnally don't think it'll mater much but we'll see.
    this tour was a con act. Management knew, sold the tour, tacked on the album cost, then explained the situation. Their goal is to sell tickets to make money, not to be transparent and make less money. Next tour, ticket cost remains w/o album cost.
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    this tour was a con act. Management knew, sold the tour, tacked on the album cost, then explained the situation. Their goal is to sell tickets to make money, not to be transparent and make less money. Next tour, ticket cost remains w/o album cost.
    Absolutely. Anyone who denies this is naive. It's a business, after all.
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    This will be interesting to see how it plays out in 2019 given they tour. In 2018, they essentially conned the fans by announcing BT was out right after the tickets went on sale.

    Had fans known there would be no violinist, how would sales have gone? Assuming they don't replace Boyd, 2019 will answer this question.

    I perosnally don't think it'll mater much but we'll see.


    Anyone that would not go see a show just because Boyd is no longer in the band, really isn’t a fan of “DMB”. That would be the same as giving up on the band after LeRoi passed. Granted, Boyd does have parts in songs that nearly ever fan will miss and you still expect to hear. But I for one will give up the violin to add another talented musician that brings new life to the band. Buddy has done this. I don’t see anything changing based on Dave’s comments about a new sound and the new key heavy songs on CT.


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    he's selling the album. it's his job to sell the album. he's a professional.
    Every artist thinks their latest work is atleast comparable with their best work. But Dave seems to defend most things he's put out. Even Stand Up. Interesting he did not say anything like this about AFTW when it came out. It's like he didn't want it to get released at all.
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    Anyone that would not go see a show just because Boyd is no longer in the band, really isn’t a fan of “DMB”. That would be the same as giving up on the band after LeRoi passed. Granted, Boyd does have parts in songs that nearly ever fan will miss and you still expect to hear. But I for one will give up the violin to add another talented musician that brings new life to the band. Buddy has done this. I don’t see anything changing based on Dave’s comments about a new sound and the new key heavy songs on CT.


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    Totally disagree. That's like saying people that won't see Dead & CO aren't Grateful Dead fans. Boyd was a huge part of the band's sound. When that changes you either accept it or you don't. There will be people in both camps. Doesn't change their love one way or the other for DMB.
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    The interviewer/narrator is brutal.
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    I'm also growing kinda sick of the "everything is sunshine and rainbows" Dave during these interviews.
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    I can't imagine ticket sales would have suffered very much had the news come out earlier. I bet the average/casual fan, which probably makes up a good portion of the crowd, didn't even realize he was gone until they went to the concert. It's probably a very small percentage of the hardcore fan base that decided not to go because of the Boyd situation.
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    I wanna know who Dave thinks is mostly responsible for making Away from the World become overworked and lose teeth. We know things like Gaucho got remixed late and some other stuff SL alluded to. I just can't tell if any of this is a shot at Steve.
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    I'm also growing kinda sick of the "everything is sunshine and rainbows" Dave during these interviews.
    If you want to find an interview with him that isn't all sunshine and rainbows you can find nearly every interview in the last couple of years as your source
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    I wanna know who Dave thinks is mostly responsible for making Away from the World become overworked and lose teeth. We know things like Gaucho got remixed late and some other stuff SL alluded to. I just can't tell if any of this is a shot at Steve.
    Lillywhite responded to Dave's comments about people making him second guess himself. Lillywhite took that as a compliment to his original mixes. What I put together was Lillywhite originally had the mixes that Dave liked, then someone got in Dave's head and in turn re-mixed Lillywhite's stuff.

    Would love a podcast with Lillywhite about "Lillywhite Sessions" and AFTW... come on Norlander! Make it happen.
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    I'm also growing kinda sick of the "everything is sunshine and rainbows" Dave during these interviews.
    That might be a you problem. Should probably get that checked out.
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    I'm also growing kinda sick of the "everything is sunshine and rainbows" Dave during these interviews.
    Sounds like you’re having a bad day
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    It's pretty obvious the split was coming in retrospect but what I think is weird is that they didn't replace him. Even with CT there are spots where there should be a violin in songs if its DMB IMHO. For instance the Jam on Again and again seems like they zigged with the electric where they should have zagged with a violin. Dave said he wanted the band to stand like Cant Stop right now and that he didn't really want Idea of You on the Album.

    For me Again and Again could have been one of the all time great songs but the choices they made were very showing of the direction that the band is headed.
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    It’s been obvious since at least 09 that Boyd just stopped caring. How many professional musicians get worse at their craft over the years? Listen to boyd in 1994...the dude was on fire. Listen to him 20 yrs later and he’s barely there
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    Did this comment, "I know the guys agree that Boyd certainly was a big part of the early part of the band", rub anyone the wrong way. An antagonistic understatement if I've ever heard one. Boyd was absolutely seminal in BTCS and tLWS. The early part of the band? If I was Boyd, this comment would piss me off. I'd be livid.

    Ignore the double entendres in the above.
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    Did this comment, "I know the guys agree that Boyd certainly was a big part of the early part of the band", rub anyone the wrong way. An antagonistic understatement if I've ever heard one. Boyd was absolutely seminal in BTCS and tLWS. The early part of the band? If I was Boyd, this comment would piss me off. I'd be livid.

    Ignore the double entendres in the above.
    If you think about it though, BTSC and LWS was the "early" part of the DMB. That was 20 years ago...
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