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Old 08-16-2018, 08:49 AM   #96781
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$92 million for a fucking parade that doesnt need to happen and serves no purpose. Conservatism!
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    So it sounds like the initial estimate (of $12M) for Trump's military parade was just a tiny bit off...

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/trum...estimated.html

    And by a tiny bit, I mean $80M off.
    The only thing surprising about this is that it's not happening on Trump's birthday. Nothing but an ego stroke. Maybe next year.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 09:03 AM   #96783
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    Cuomo. Lol. You just dont say stuff like that if you want to be president. Probably helps in a Dem primary though
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    Old 08-16-2018, 09:04 AM   #96784
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    I don't think Cuomo wants to be President. Isn't he running for governor?
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    And cue the GOP snowflaking.

    Somehow saying America isn't/wasn't great is more "offensive" that the President calling a black woman a "dog" or mocking a disabled person or criticizing John McCain for being a POW who was tortured.

    #JustGOPThings

    It's a dumb comment politically for Cuomo, but the alligator tears from the right are fucking hysterical to me.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 09:08 AM   #96786
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    $20 million WITCH HUNT! is a bigger travesty than a $92 million military parade.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 09:22 AM   #96787
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    Speaking of dumb gubernatorial candidate comments.

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    Republican gubernatorial candidate and businessman John Cox told a story during a California DMV visit on Wednesday that compared the much-criticized long lines and waits to surviving concentration camps during the Holocaust.

    In audio at the event recorded by CapRadio, Cox can be heard introducing himself to a woman at the Sacramento DMV office.

    “How long have you been waiting,” he asks the woman, who responds “close to an hour.”

    Cox then relays a story of a conversation with a man he met at a DMV in Southern California:

    “You know, I met a Holocaust survivor in Long Beach. He survived concentration camps, and he said this was worse. He’s 90 years old and he had to wait four hours down in Long Beach. Can you imagine that?” Cox says.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 09:25 AM   #96788
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    $20 million WITCH HUNT! is a bigger travesty than a $92 million military parade.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 10:35 AM   #96789
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    at anyone who thinks anyone would want Cuomo to be POTUS. If we had to put up some NY person, libs would take Bloomberg infinitely more seriously.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 11:19 AM   #96790
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    much like Hillary's "deplorables" remark, it was a bad political move but a true statement
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    Old 08-16-2018, 11:42 AM   #96791
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    I don't think Cuomo wants to be President. Isn't he running for governor?
    He is the Governor.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 11:48 AM   #96792
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    He is the Governor.
    I assume he meant that he's running for reelection
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    Old 08-16-2018, 11:50 AM   #96793
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    ... can't assume anything with Lee - at least you shouldn't of.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 12:07 PM   #96794
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    ... can't assume anything with Lee - at least you shouldn't of.

    When I was up at SPAC, I only saw a billion commercials of Cuomo telling me how pro choice he was. Re-election, obviously.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 12:25 PM   #96795
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    much like Hillary's "deplorables" remark, it was a bad political move but a true statement
    America’s not perfect but all in all it’s pretty great
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    Old 08-16-2018, 12:27 PM   #96796
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    $20 million WITCH HUNT! is a bigger travesty than a $92 million military parade.
    Around $500,000 per Mueller indictment. Money well spent.

    If Trump wants a parade why doesn't he just get small donors or his inauguration committee to pay for it? He can invite Macron and continue the bromance.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 12:34 PM   #96797
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    America’s not perfect but all in all it’s pretty great


    Agreed. It’s why I didn’t understand why Trump spent a year and a half on the campaign trail bashing it.
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    New Omarossa tape today, eh?
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    Old 08-16-2018, 12:47 PM   #96799
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    Navy Adm. William McRaven (who was a commander of the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command from 2011 to 2014 and oversaw the 2011 Navy SEAL raid in Pakistan that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden) writes an op-ed asking Trump to revoke his security clearance, too.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.6fde8266f55a

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    Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.

    Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.
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    A good leader tries to embody the best qualities of his or her organization. A good leader sets the example for others to follow. A good leader always puts the welfare of others before himself or herself.

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.

    If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken. The criticism will continue until you become the leader we prayed you would be.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 12:53 PM   #96800
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    A former US District Court Judge goes to town on the behavior of Judge T.S. Ellis in the Paul Manafort trial

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.bca862f08f46

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    The judge continually interrupted the prosecution's questioning of witnesses, prompting lead prosecutor Greg Andres to pointedly note: "Your honor stops us and asks us to move on." Ellis pressed the prosecution to rush through testimony about important financial documents. He made critical comments about prosecution evidence and strategy — all in front the jury.

    Ellis also questioned the relevance of Manafort's work as a political consultant for Russian-backed politicians in Ukraine, for which he was paid tens of millions of dollars from 2010 to 2014. But if Manafort didn't disclose some payments because he was not registered in the United States as a foreign agent, it would provide a motive to hide the amounts from the U.S. government — just what the trial was about. Ellis chided prosecutors for eliciting testimony about Manafort's lavish lifestyle, but that kind of testimony is also a classic element in a tax evasion case. That your cars, boats, condos and clothing suggest you made much more income than you reported would surely be relevant.

    After prosecutor Uzo Asonye questioned a bank employee about Manafort's failed attempt to obtain a $5.5 million construction loan on a Brooklyn brownstone, the judge — unprompted by a defense objection — declared: "You might want to spend time on a loan that was granted." The comment strongly implied to jurors that the prosecution was wasting their time. But an attempt to defraud was part of the conspiracy count in the indictment; false representation to secure a loan, successful or not, is itself a crime.

    Despite appearances, Ellis doesn't think he is infallible. He admitted on Aug. 9, "I may have made a mistake" the day before when he berated prosecutors for allowing the government's tax-expert witness to sit in the courtroom during other testimony. Earlier in the trial, prosecutors had explicitly sought and obtained Ellis's permission for the tax expert to be present while other witnesses testified.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 12:55 PM   #96801
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    A former US District Court Judge goes to town on the behavior of Judge T.S. Ellis in the Paul Manafort trial

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.bca862f08f46
    Honestly, it seemed like he was just old and was having trouble keeping everything straight. He's 78.
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    Honestly, it seemed like he was just old and was having trouble keeping everything straight. He's 78.
    If his bashing them for having a witness present that he agreed to was the only problem, it'd be one thing. But he has long been noted for his antagonistic style. He had multiple outburst both during the trial and pre-trial.

    More than anything, he just seems like a dick.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 03:10 PM   #96803
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    Maybe Manafort's gamble will pay off.

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    The questions came after roughly seven hours of deliberation, delivered in a handwritten note to U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III. Ellis read the questions aloud to lawyers for both sides as well as Manafort before he called the jury in to give his answers.

    Along with the question on reasonable doubt, the jury asked about the list of exhibits, rules for reporting foreign bank accounts and the definition of “shelf companies,” a term used during the trial to describe some of the foreign companies used by Manafort.

    Ellis told the jurors they need to rely on their collective memory of the evidence to answer most questions. As for reasonable doubt, he described it as “a doubt based on reason” and told jurors it does not require proof “beyond all doubt.”
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    Maybe Manafort's gamble will pay off.



    https://apnews.com/7847c2d3498d403db...um=AP_Politics
    The idea that Manafort could get off on such a clear cut fraud case would be very alarming. He very clearly hid and mistated income numerous times, that was corroborated by evidence presented in the way of financial documents as well a numerous witnesses testifying to that effect.

    Between the Judges outburst, and what appeared to be a jury issue that was not replaced with an alternate, it has all the makings of an absolute fat cat mafioso crook walking away without a scratch.

    All that said, he also faces separate charges at the state level.
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    3 Dem senators say that documents show Kavanaugh misled the Senate in his 2006 confirmation hearing: https://www.leahy.senate.gov/press/0...naughmisledrls

    Wonder why the GOP is shielding so many of the documents...
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    However, until such time as we can celebrate victory in the War on Terrorism and bring our military home, we think the parade money would be better spent fully funding the Department of Veteran Affairs and giving our troops and their families the best care possible.”

    https://twitter.com/AmericanLegion/s...653982720?s=19

    American legion should shut the fuck up and support our troops and our president!
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    The idea that Manafort could get off on such a clear cut fraud case would be very alarming. He very clearly hid and mistated income numerous times, that was corroborated by evidence presented in the way of financial documents as well a numerous witnesses testifying to that effect.

    Between the Judges outburst, and what appeared to be a jury issue that was not replaced with an alternate, it has all the makings of an absolute fat cat mafioso crook walking away without a scratch.

    All that said, he also faces separate charges at the state level.
    Shouldn't be a surprise, this is the American legal system we're talking a out.
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    Dude is rich and white, and this is political. You think no one on this jury thinks the whole thing is a witch hunt?

    I'd be shocked if he gets convicted.
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    Dude is rich and white, and this is political. You think no one on this jury thinks the whole thing is a witch hunt?

    I'd be shocked if he gets convicted.
    Yeah, I'd be very surprised if not at least one person hangs the jury.
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    Yeah, I'd be very surprised if not at least one person hangs the jury.
    very insensitive language for 2018
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