Serial Podcast (Now with poll!)

[Taylor36]

Anyone listen to the Serial Podcast? It's setting records for podcast downloads. Several friends and co-workers highly recommended it. Ended up listening to all 10 episodes in 2 days this weekend. Needless to say I'm hooked. You can check it out here: http://serialpodcast.org/

Did a search and couldn't find any threads on it. Discuss reactions, theories, etc.!

[YouNeverKnow25]

that fucker did it

[ExistenceNow]

I'd been meaning to make a thread about this.

Great podcast. Can't wait till Thursday.

[zajDmB1]

I think he did it or was at least involved in it.

But he shouldn't have been convicted, definitely not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Either he or Jay or both are psychopaths is the bottom line.

[Ascf33]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

I think he did it or was at least involved in it.

But he shouldn't have been convicted, definitely not beyond a reasonable doubt.

This is pretty much what it boils down to. Definitely involved in some capacity but there was more than enough reasonable doubt to acquit.

[YouNeverKnow25]

I had this debate with a friend:

if the prosecuting attorney is 100% sure adnan did it, is his job to present the case with the best chance for a conviction, or to present the case with the best chance of finding out exactly how adnan did it?

[chadizzy1]

Someone wanna explain the podcast?

I may give it a listen

[YouNeverKnow25]

just listen to the first episode, that's the only explanation to give.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Someone wanna explain the podcast?

I may give it a listen

Real life murder mystery.

[justink]

i think it's pretty pointless and nothing short of a money grab. you can get the same entertainment by watching 20/20 every friday.

adnan is guilty as sin. jay helped him but he got a deal. "first to talk, walks".

/podcast

[thebridge15]

he and jay did it together

I have no idea why, but that's what I think happened

I also think it happened at the library like that one guy said

[justink]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

he and jay did it together

I have no idea why, but that's what I think happened

I also think it happened at the library like that one guy said

yeah... the only thing that could possibly come out of this is some "reveal/twist" where adan says... "well, if i did do it, i would have done it like this... but not how the cops said it happened."

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by justink

i think it's pretty pointless and nothing short of a money grab. you can get the same entertainment by watching 20/20 every friday.

adnan is guilty as sin. jay helped him but he got a deal. "first to talk, walks".

/podcast

eh, there's something to be said about how they present the info, etc that makes it better than just 20/20

also, if it's a money grab they're doing a pretty shitty job with mail kimp

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

I had this debate with a friend:

if the prosecuting attorney is 100% sure adnan did it, is his job to present the case with the best chance for a conviction, or to present the case with the best chance of finding out exactly how adnan did it?

Not a lawyer, but I believe the former. Similarly with the defense, how the podcast says Adnan's lawyer's strategy was more focused on showing how certain testimonies were bad, as opposed to pushing for his alibi/proving he's innocent, because they didn't really have enough to go that route. It's all about winning, nobody gives a shit about what actually happened.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by justink

yeah... the only thing that could possibly come out of this is some "reveal/twist" where adan says... "well, if i did do it, i would have done it like this... but not how the cops said it happened."

last episode he did toss out "the prosecution did a great job of presenting the facts"

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by justink

i think it's pretty pointless and nothing short of a money grab. you can get the same entertainment by watching 20/20 every friday.

adnan is guilty as sin. jay helped him but he got a deal. "first to talk, walks".

/podcast

If this is a money grab, what isn't a money grab?

[YouNeverKnow25]

The question was one of morality, not legality.

[justink]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

eh, there's something to be said about how they present the info, etc that makes it better than just 20/20

also, if it's a money grab they're doing a pretty shitty job with mail kimp

that's what i was telling Matthew... SK is deliberately holding back evidence/info because they have to milk this thing as long as they can. no point in just divulging everything because then there wouldn't be a podcast.

and mail "kimp" (lols) was signed on for the entirety before this thing took off. they're making money hand over fist now. hell, they're even taking donations on their main page.

they're estimated to have made between $500k and $800k from mailchimp... that's not including donations.

https://medium.com/@tylersmoody/why-...s-82d3df728b20

[justink]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

If this is a money grab, what isn't a money grab?

all entertainment is a money grab. this one is preying on dumb people who want to believe a killer is innocent.

seems pointless and borderline unethical to me.

[thebridge15]

I listened to 1-10 on the way to and from home for thanksgiving so I pretty much memorized the entire intro

"use-a mail chimp"

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by justink

all entertainment is a money grab. this one is preying on dumb people who want to believe a killer is innocent.

seems pointless and borderline unethical to me.

it is kind of strange that a bunch of people are all hoping he gets a special appeal or whatever, etc because they're certain he's innocent

even though the podcast does a pretty good job of making him look guilty at times, despite SK admitting a few times that she wants him to be innocent

[justink]

http://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcast/

lot's of in depth discussion.

[justink]

yeah, and update: there were payphones at best buy. a redditor's dad worked there at the time and even had pictures.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by justink

yeah, and update: there were payphones at best buy. a redditor's dad worked there at the time and even had pictures.

the girl saying she knew there weren't cause she used to regularly steal CDs

[justink]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Not a lawyer, but I believe the former. Similarly with the defense, how the podcast says Adnan's lawyer's strategy was more focused on showing how certain testimonies were bad, as opposed to pushing for his alibi/proving he's innocent, because they didn't really have enough to go that route. It's all about winning, nobody gives a shit about what actually happened.

Adnan's lawyer was forced into that strategy because adnan had no alibi and the prosecution had a witness saying that he killed her.

[justink]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

the girl saying she knew there weren't cause she used to regularly steal CDs

yeah... "there weren't any payphones because i was always looking for security cameras when i stole cd's there all the time!"

first, most shoplifters are dumb as hell, and second, if you're looking for cameras, why would you notice and memorize where payphones were?

real dumb.

[thebridge15]

why do they need to establish he was ever at best buy? even if he was the timeline could still work, they tried it

[justink]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

why do they need to establish he was ever at best buy? even if he was the timeline could still work, they tried it

i agree, i don't think it's relevant at all. payphone schmayphone. but...

Adnan claimed the non-existant payphone that he didn't use was in the lobby...
"...and then I walk into the Best Buy Lobby and call Jay and tell him to come meet me there—all in 21 minutes..."

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by justink

all entertainment is a money grab. this one is preying on dumb people who want to believe a killer is innocent.

seems pointless and borderline unethical to me.

I mean, nobody pays to hear them, so people donating is no different than anything else on NPR.

Also, I've talked to no less than 20 people about this and literally not one person thinks he's innocent. And now add a few people from this thread, too.

Originally Posted by justink

Adnan's lawyer was forced into that strategy because adnan had no alibi and the prosecution had a witness saying that he killed her.

Yea, that's why I said "because they didn't really have enough to go that route." after what you bolded.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

why do they need to establish he was ever at best buy? even if he was the timeline could still work, they tried it

Because Jay said that's where he picked him up, no?. If your star witness is saying something completely false, that's an issue.