The NHL Thread

[lockman21]

This might be the worst discussion/argument in the NHL thread's history.

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

But guys, Malkin isn't Canadian.

I know, that's why he's worse.

Stupid Europeans.

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

wait, you really think those things are debatable? good lord

and the entire bolded is completely irrelevant to this conversation



yes, that's exactly my point. and Malkin is better in the vast majority of other categories. they each have Conn Smythes so you gotta look at other things when comparing them and Malkin gets WAY more check marks



exactly

Ah, the classic wording of "you really think" and "good lord" when phrasing an internet argument meant to discredit someone based on personal bias! Good times man, good time.

Basically, I think your an idiot on this subject and you think I am as well. So let's call this discussion a closed case.

[hailtopitt]

all of the evidence points to the contrary of what you said so my phrasing is irrelevant

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

all of the evidence points to the contrary of what you said so my phrasing is irrelevant

Whatever makes you sleep at night man

[hailtopitt]

the numbers and accolades don't lie dude

not saying Geno is the greatest thing ever but he's very clearly a better player than Toews. Unless you value faceoffs more than any other aspect in hockey. That's the only way.

we aren't talking about starting a new franchise or who's had worse line mates, just who is the better player. and it's Malkin. The numbers and the eye test all clearly show this

[lockman21]

Ugh, move on.

[Lcsulla]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

the numbers and accolades don't lie dude

not saying Geno is the greatest thing ever but he's very clearly a better player than Toews. Unless you value faceoffs more than any other aspect in hockey. That's the only way.

we aren't talking about starting a new franchise or who's had worse line mates, just who is the better player. and it's Malkin. The numbers and the eye test all clearly show this

We are both homer's for our teams and I mean no disrespect to Malkin who is an amazing player but Toews has a leadership quality about him that cannot be quantified, he makes his team-mates better, specifically the younger guys he takes under his wing. Not saying Malkin cannot do that but he doesn't have to because Pittsburgh has Crosby who is also a great captain and leader.

Yeah, statistically Malkin is a better player in offensive categories and they are equal in games played. Their numbers are far closer in the playoffs though, again with an equal number of games played.

Honestly you could probably build a team around either of them and have a solid team if the supporting cast is good too - like both of them have though I think Toews has a very slight edge because he is calmer and takes a lot less penalties. Still, if you want to dump Malkin I will happily take him to anchor my 3rd line - you can have Kruger in return!!!!

[fonzz41]

My Top 100 hockey players of all time, especially for H2P. Had to do it

Gretzky
Howe
Lemieux
Orr
Richard
Messier
Bobby Hull
Crosby
Bourque
Yzerman

Lafleur
Mikita
Bossy
Sawchuk
Coffey
Phil Esposito
Trottier
Lindsay
Brodeur
Toews

Iginla
Clarke
Dionne
Hall
Denis Potvin
Geoffrion
Bucyk
Shore
Keith
Maholovich

Ted Kennedy
Robitaille
Larry Robinson
Dryden
Francis
Shanahan
Apps
Oates
Thornton
Harvey

Believeau
Plante
Roy
Kelly
Schmidt
Henri Richard
Moore
Lalonde
Durnan
Conacher

Gilbert Perreault
Brad Park
Clancy
Lindros
Ted Kennedy
Bathgate
Pilote
Broda
Frank Boucher
Denneny

Parent
Blake
Lach
Keon
Fuhr
Seibert
Bentley
Vezina
Tony Esposito
Serge Savard

Delvecchio
Abel
Gainey
Bower
Sittler
Nash
Eric Staal
Stamkos
Giroux
Tavares

Benn
Burns
Weber
Duchene
Seguin
Seabrook
Bouwmeester
Letang
Taylor Hall
Couture

Doughty
Skinner
Marchand
O'Reilly
Giordano
Pietrangelo
McDavid
MacKinnon
Hamonic
Ekblad

[dmbetc]

https://twitter.com/dennistfp/status/827037452611117056

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

My Top 100 hockey players of all time, especially for H2P. Had to do it

Gretzky
Howe
Lemieux
Orr
Richard
Messier
Bobby Hull
Crosby
Bourque
Yzerman

Lafleur
Mikita
Bossy
Sawchuk
Coffey
Phil Esposito
Trottier
Lindsay
Brodeur
Toews

Iginla
Clarke
Dionne
Hall
Denis Potvin
Geoffrion
Bucyk
Shore
Keith
Maholovich

Ted Kennedy
Robitaille
Larry Robinson
Dryden
Francis
Shanahan
Apps
Oates
Thornton
Harvey

Believeau
Plante
Roy
Kelly
Schmidt
Henri Richard
Moore
Lalonde
Durnan
Conacher

Gilbert Perreault
Brad Park
Clancy
Lindros
Ted Kennedy
Bathgate
Pilote
Broda
Frank Boucher
Denneny

Parent
Blake
Lach
Keon
Fuhr
Seibert
Bentley
Vezina
Tony Esposito
Serge Savard

Delvecchio
Abel
Gainey
Bower
Sittler
Nash
Eric Staal
Stamkos
Giroux
Tavares

Benn
Burns
Weber
Duchene
Seguin
Seabrook
Bouwmeester
Letang
Taylor Hall
Couture

Doughty
Skinner
Marchand
O'Reilly
Giordano
Pietrangelo
McDavid
MacKinnon
Hamonic
Ekblad

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by dmbetc

https://twitter.com/dennistfp/status/827037452611117056

That is such a Flyers beat writer move.

[~Crashintome89~]

Travis Hamonic.

[fonzz41]

I feel like my joke may not have landed as effortlessly as I thought it would. My bad.

[~Crashintome89~]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

I feel like my joke may not have landed as effortlessly as I thought it would. My bad.

Don't worry, bud. I knew you were kidding as soon as I saw Eric Staal and Rick Nash.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~

Don't worry, bud. I knew you were kidding as soon as I saw Eric Staal and Rick Nash.

Coming up with a list of 100 Canadians wasn't quite as easy as I thought it would be. Had to reach there a bit at the end.

[~Crashintome89~]

You're list should have been 250 best players in the NHL and had Giroux in the last spot.

also did not realize that they were all canadians. haha

[lockman21]

I legit laughed out loud.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~

You're list should have been 250 best players in the NHL and had Giroux in the last spot.

also did not realize that they were all canadians. haha

I'll have to remember that for next time.

Originally Posted by lockman21

I legit laughed out loud.

Did you get it before I explained myself? I thought you would.

My joke-telling confidence has taken a hit, guys. It's not you, it's me.

[lockman21]

Yes, I got it before you explained it.

Edit: It went basically - "Holy shit no way he actually ranked 100...wait...hold on...are all these guys Canadian? lol yes they are."

[~Crashintome89~]

well, I guess we know Martty didn't get all of his wives by telling jokes.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by lockman21

Yes, I got it before you explained it.

Edit: It went basically - "Holy shit no way he actually ranked 100...wait...hold on...are all these guys Canadian? lol yes they are."

YES!

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~

well, I guess we know Martty didn't get all of his wives by telling jokes.

Nope, it was my body.

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by aeroshady

Renaissance (Downtown Loop)!

Nice! That's a pretty sweet hotel. We'll figure something out. You have pregame plans?

[lockman21]

Always love watching this page, for better or worse, it's somewhat accurate.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/top25/

[TMoore4075]

They are usually decently accurate but Matt Duchesne to the Wings? Unless he can be a #1 defenseman, not happening.

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by lockman21

Nice! That's a pretty sweet hotel. We'll figure something out. You have pregame plans?

Nothing planned as of yet!

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

They are usually decently accurate but Matt Duchesne to the Wings? Unless he can be a #1 defenseman, not happening.

I mean, doesn't mean they haven't kicked the tires.

Originally Posted by aeroshady

Nothing planned as of yet!

Awesome. There's plenty of options on Randolph or Madison. I feel like they add a new bar/restaurant there every month. Lone Wolf is my favorite bar, maybe we can grab a brew there before the game.

[Lcsulla]

Meant to post this but yesterday was the 20 year anniversary of the Whalers announcing they'd skip town. CT is now debating whether to offer Whalers vanity license plates - hope they do but I have a feeling they will cost an arm and a leg if the bill passes.

[~Crashintome89~]

Originally Posted by lockman21

There's plenty of options on Randolph or Madison.

going out on a limb here and saying other streets around Randolph and Madison are also named after signers of the Constitution.

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~

going out on a limb here and saying other streets around Randolph and Madison are also named after signers of the Constitution.

Washington, Monroe, Adams, Jackson, Van Buren...