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Old 05-10-2019, 07:38 PM   #147331
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    The more government backed funding for college, the higher the tuition cost will be.
    Who paid for public universities in say the 1950s?

    Mainly privately funded via tuition?
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:39 PM   #147333
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    Fixed this for you! Now they learn about triggering, safe spaces and pointless courses that will never have any practical value once you graduate!
    Nah, you’re just biased by the loons on the right! ;-)
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:40 PM   #147334
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    Oh..so it’s about...moral victories?
    It's about finding out what happened. There was no appetite to impeach Nixon until the process found the Nixon tapes. Lord knows what evidence these idiots left around. It took like 8 benghazi select committees before they realized Hillary had a private email server.
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:40 PM   #147335
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    The world is round.

    Drakan: Citation needed.
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:41 PM   #147336
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    The world is round.

    Drakan: Citation needed.
    Sober/Rational roger is boring.

    Me: need a good #RogMelt
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:42 PM   #147337
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    Help me with my reading comprehension on the bold

    By suffering you mean having to legally pay back the money the borrowed that has allowed them to gain employment?
    if we go by the premise that college isn't big business, then it was wrong for colleges to take advantage of the government backed loans to inflate the costs exponentially

    and also, the interest again. it's literally a tax on poor people who want an education, thus just another way to hold poorer people back. I borrowed $43k, paid back over $38k, and still owe $32k (which will turn into about $60k when all is said and done). It's predatory.
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:42 PM   #147338
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    Sober/Rational roger is boring.

    Me: need a good #RogMelt
    That's pretty funny.
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:43 PM   #147339
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    It's about finding out what happened. There was no appetite to impeach Nixon until the process found the Nixon tapes. Lord knows what evidence these idiots left around. It took like 8 benghazi select committees before they realized Hillary had a private email server.
    If your only point is we should keep investigating...sure. But at this point in time, impeachment is a sure fire way to lose in 2020. You can investigate without impeachment.
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:44 PM   #147340
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    The world is round.

    Drakan: Citation needed.
    It's a sphere.
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:44 PM   #147341
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    and also, the interest again. it's literally a tax on poor people who want an education, thus just another way to hold poorer people back. I borrowed $43k, paid back over $38k, and still owe $32k (which will turn into about $60k when all is said and done). It's predatory.
    Without backing into the numbers, that's just how interest works. I purposely pushed out of my mind how much I was paying for my home on the contract how much money I will actually pay the bank. The two are different ball parks.
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    That's pretty funny.


    Seriously though...time to flip your shit!
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:45 PM   #147343
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    If your only point is we should keep investigating...sure. But at this point in time, impeachment is a sure fire way to lose in 2020. You can investigate without impeachment.
    impeachment is a process. It's a gathering of facts. You don't ever have to vote I don't think.
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    It's a sphere.
    Like the movie???
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:45 PM   #147345
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    impeachment is a process. It's a gathering of facts. You don't ever have to vote I don't think.
    It’s political suicide at this point in time.
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:47 PM   #147346
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    It's a sphere.
    oblate spheroid
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:48 PM   #147347
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    College is expensive because there are more buyers than sellers. If you think the government helps inflate costs what you mean is the less people to go to college the less it will cost to go. Good luck running on that platform!
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    Without backing into the numbers, that's just how interest works. I purposely pushed out of my mind how much I was paying for my home on the contract how much money I will actually pay the bank. The two are different ball parks.
    I undertsand full well how interest works. I thought I understood at 18, but you dont really understand until you start paying it back.

    yes, that's a bad excuse, but its probably 90% of the people that took loans.

    and again, my issue isn't with paying my loans back. it's with charging 6-9% interest against poor students trying to get an education, which will help the economy.

    If nothing else it's bad business for the government, I think- I'm not sure what's more impactful, the $100k or so I'll spend on interest, or the fact that I was delayed in buying houses and cars, and many people will never be able to. Charging such high interest rates seems like it would mitigate the government's ROI on the economy.
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    Seriously though...time to flip your shit!
    I know, right!!
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    Old 05-10-2019, 07:49 PM   #147350
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    Agree that college should be career prep and drop the gen-eds. I don't want to pay $30k a year for English I and II.

    IMO, that's what high school is for.
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    Here we go with the student loan garbage again where people start complaining about being required to pay back what they owe.
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    Agree that college should be career prep and drop the gen-eds. I don't want to pay $30k a year for English I and II.

    IMO, that's what high school is for.
    Good luck. Hope you’re in a trade. I wouldn’t hire you.
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    Here we go with the student loan garbage again where people start complaining about being required to pay back what they owe.
    haven't complained about that at all
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    I undertsand full well how interest works. I thought I understood at 18, but you dont really understand until you start paying it back.

    yes, that's a bad excuse, but its probably 90% of the people that took loans.

    and again, my issue isn't with paying my loans back. it's with charging 6-9% interest against poor students trying to get an education, which will help the economy.

    If nothing else it's bad business for the government, I think- I'm not sure what's more impactful, the $100k or so I'll spend on interest, or the fact that I was delayed in buying houses and cars, and many people will never be able to. Charging such high interest rates seems like it would mitigate the government's ROI on the economy.
    I didn't mean to imply that you don't know how interest works, I was just reinfocing what a mother fucker interest is. I think I got my mortgage at prime and I'm still going to give the bank 2x more than what I agreed to pay on the contract.

    You can knock down a point but it's not going to be a massive change, imo.
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    Kids for the most part are in a bubble through high school. College is about learning your bubble ain’t shit relative to the rest of the world.

    I do like Mayor Pete’s ideas on a year of service. Would also help break the bubble and probably has a better ROI than 1 year of college gen ed.
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    Not sure what current interest rates are on student loans...I’m cool with capping at, say, 10 year treasury yields.
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    I didn't mean to imply that you don't know how interest works, I was just reinfocing what a mother fucker interest is. I think I got my mortgage at prime and I'm still going to give the bank 2x more than what I agreed to pay on the contract.

    You can knock down a point but it's not going to be a massive change, imo.
    you can refi a house, a car, a boat...can;t refi student loans

    our "billionaire" president can have his businesses lose a billion dollars and file for bankruptcy, but student loan borrowers in default can't

    it's not right.
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    Last time the Democrats didn't fight hard for Garland or stand up against election interference, how that work for us?
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    Kids for the most part are in a bubble through high school.
    Maybe in the burbs.
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    Kids for the most part are in a bubble through high school. College is about learning your bubble ain’t shit relative to the rest of the world.

    I do like Mayor Pete’s ideas on a year of service. Would also help break the bubble and probably has a better ROI than 1 year of college gen ed.
    Not sure if you remember from "The Prompter" days but I started a thread about fixing education and one of the ideas I had was that if you're not in a college/GED program or job by 20, then you'd have to enlist in a service. Maybe not ideal but at it at least attempts to get younger adults onto a more positive track.
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