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Old 05-28-2019, 06:12 PM   #150331
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These are silly questions. Everyone sins. Doesnt mean you don’t strive to do better
So he’s sinning even though it’s genetic? This shotty logic train were following is flying off the rails.

Not to mention you’re pretty cool with a big sinner in the White House that won’t even admit when wrong and continually lies... and cheated on his wife while she was pregnant.
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    Dear God why
    So the Women's World Cup this year is like your worst nightmare huh?
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:13 PM   #150333
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    how would you suggest that gay people be better?
    If they’re not religious, nothing.

    If they are religious I would suggest they turn away from that lifestyle.

    I’m not really into telling people how to live. Adults make their choices and deal with the consequences. I have my own imperfections to deal with so getting on a high horse about the gays isn’t something I’m big on.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:14 PM   #150334
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    So the Women's World Cup this year is like your worst nightmare huh?
    Don't even get him started on the women's cross fit games.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:14 PM   #150335
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    So he’s sinning even though it’s genetic? This shotty logic train were following is flying off the rails.
    It's really just like a hodgepodge of one-liners to own the libs. His posting is very post-modern for someone who only likes masculine stuff.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:15 PM   #150336
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    The only piece of life advice I have is that whatever you do you'll be like where the F did the last 5 years of my life go?
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:15 PM   #150337
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    So he’s sinning even though it’s genetic? This shotty logic train were following is flying off the rails.
    I don’t make the rules. Pretty sure homosexuality is a sin in pretty much every religion I’m aware of. You act like I’m inventing sins
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:16 PM   #150338
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    If they’re not religious, nothing.

    If they are religious I would suggest they turn away from that lifestyle.
    I think people should use common sense. The bible has some harsh punishments for gay people that I don't think even the most ardent followers would agree with.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:16 PM   #150339
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    Pretty sure he was world renowned before that
    I had never heard of him until then, fwiw, so it's clear that was his first exposure to some people.

    He strikes me as a smarter James Damore — someone who reached a wider audience by saying the "politically incorrect" thing, not because he adds value to the conversation.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:18 PM   #150340
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    I just don't agree with the conservative lifestyle.

    It's fine if they want to make those choices.

    I just don't want them to shove it in my face.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:18 PM   #150341
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    As much as I hate to say it, I agree with shotty. People can choose not to act on their genetics. If religion is more important I see no problem with people choosing to suppress those urges.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:19 PM   #150342
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    I don’t make the rules. Pretty sure homosexuality is a sin in pretty much every religion I’m aware of. You act like I’m inventing sins


    can you present us with the hierarchical ranking of sins?

    for instance, does homosexuality fall above or below adultery?
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:19 PM   #150343
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    I don’t make the rules. Pretty sure homosexuality is a sin in pretty much every religion I’m aware of. You act like I’m inventing sins
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    You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bi..._homosexuality

    I don't think any Christian agrees with that.
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    As much as I hate to say it, I agree with shotty. People can choose not to act on their genetics. If religion is more important I see no problem with people choosing to suppress those urges.
    Cazzie, don't. Sarah is going to come in here and rage.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:21 PM   #150345
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    Don't even get him started on the women's cross fit games.
    I bet he loves Annie Thorisdottir though…and wait til he figures out the cultural significance of her last name!
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:21 PM   #150346
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    Cherry picking the Bible and the commandments is always an entertaining exercise to watch people try to sort out.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:22 PM   #150347
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    As much as I hate to say it, I agree with shotty. People can choose not to act on their genetics. If religion is more important I see no problem with people choosing to suppress those urges.
    i can’t tell if you’re serious? i’m going to assume you are, so i’d say;

    religion being more important to whom is the important part of this position.

    if an adult of sound mind is more invested in their chosen religion than they are in their homosexuality, and thus choose to live a life of celibacy as to not engage in sinful acts, i’m all for it.

    it’s when you get into adults imposing their religion and their beliefs regarding a child’s homosexuality and forcing that/acting in punishing or abusive (emotional or otherwise) ways that it’s an absolute no go for me.

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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:22 PM   #150348
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bi..._homosexuality

    I don't think any Christian agrees with that.
    Some probably do. Majority don’t
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    I just don't agree with the conservative lifestyle.

    It's fine if they want to make those choices.

    I just don't want them to shove it in my face.
    But if they can’t tell you their way of life is better and try to hold everyone else to it, then those thoughts and feelings aren’t validated. It’s an amazing fest because they also scream about freedom. Never understood what’s so hard about live and let live.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:24 PM   #150350
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    Shotgun: Some of you don't like to have your beliefs challenged

    Also Shotgun: OK whatever you say I'm not reading that
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:25 PM   #150351
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    can you present us with the hierarchical ranking of sins?

    for instance, does homosexuality fall above or below adultery?
    I don’t think there is a sin hierarchy that I’m aware of. I’m no theologian though.
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    if an adult of sound mind is more invested in their chosen religion than they are in their homosexuality, and thus choose to live a life of celibacy as to not engage in sinful acts, i’m all for it. .
    This is the point I was making.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:29 PM   #150353
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    This is the point I was making.
    So you're all for homosexuality as long as there's no intercourse? If they have oral or penetration though, you shun them?
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    I had never heard of him until then, fwiw, so it's clear that was his first exposure to some people.

    He strikes me as a smarter James Damore — someone who reached a wider audience by saying the "politically incorrect" thing, not because he adds value to the conversation.
    He definitely came to prominence when he started getting political. Not a lot of wonky psychology fans out there
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    What toys your kid decides he or she wants to play with is like your least worry as a parent.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:34 PM   #150356
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    What toys your kid decides he or she wants to play with is like your least worry as a parent.
    gotta this post
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    Old 05-28-2019, 06:35 PM   #150357
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    So you're all for homosexuality as long as there's no intercourse? If they have oral or penetration though, you shun them?
    Not the point I'm making

    Just saying people can choose, if they want, to not act on their genetics if other things are more important. No difference than a nun choosing celebacy

    I understand why gay people might still marry and have intercourse with people of the opposite sex.
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    gotta this post
    Thank you.

    I’ve been through this and being a true parent is accepting your children for who they are, or think they might be, and helping them navigate through their daily life as best they can.

    Pushing back against your children will only lead to distrust and separation.
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    Thank you.

    I’ve been through this and being a true parent is accepting your children for who they are, or think they might be, and helping them navigate through this their daily let’s as best they can.

    Pushing back against your children will only lead to distrust and separation.
    exactly, life is tough enough, just love your kids
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    Are we pro or anti spankings?
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