*Prompter Thread* (NO personal attacks, NO trolling)

[jmc419]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Good for the Trumpster. Another campaign promise kept

As I stated earlier I believe this is far from coming around to a full withdraw so I wouldn't give him this credit yet.

[FromTheMorning]

JMC, just clear this up for me.

You want us to think that Trump installing sanctions against Iran is his way of keeping the Deal intact? And so for that reason, Dems and the world should be rejoicing because it might take a few months as opposed to right away?

[swordo84]

Leaving a nuclear deal whilst trying to get NK to engage in one. The math checks out here.

[cazzie34]

Let's not call it a withdrawal. The us is breaking the agreement.

[jmc419]

Originally Posted by FromTheMorning

JMC, just clear this up for me.

You want us to think that Trump installing sanctions against Iran is his way of keeping the Deal intact? And so for that reason, Dems and the world should be rejoicing because it might take a few months as opposed to right away?

Haven't you learned anything from Trump?

It will be rewritten and slightly modified to better positions proactive to the US. The deal is not going to end. Let me guess, this makes you upset?

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by jmc419

Haven't you learned anything from Trump?

It will be rewritten and slightly modified to better positions proactive to the US. The deal is not going to end. Let me guess, this makes you upset?

He has a long history of successfully doing that. :eyeroll

I remember when health Care was going to be better, when Mexico would pay for the wall, nafta renegotiated, and a better daca bill.

[cazzie34]

You may have forgotten this moment from 2015: Amid debate on the Iran nuclear deal, the president of the leading lobby group opposed to the deal, Gary Samore, suddenly resigned. His reason: he actually read the deal and decided to publicly support it.

"I'm skeptical that we can reject this agreement and negotiate a substantially better deal within any kind of reasonable time frame,” Samore told me the next day.

https://t.co/IoMPwMKp6M

[Route_2]

Wait. JMC thinks we can break the deal with Iran and tell them we want a new one with better terms for the US and Iran will just be like, 'Good idea! Where do we sign?'

[swordo84]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

Let's not call it a withdrawal. The us is breaking the agreement.

Good point.

[cazzie34]

Parking lot time!

Parking lot! Parking lot! Parking lot!

[FromTheMorning]

Originally Posted by jmc419

Haven't you learned anything from Trump?

It will be rewritten and slightly modified to better positions proactive to the US. The deal is not going to end. Let me guess, this makes you upset?

I'm not talking about whether we agree or disagree on the deal. I think we all rightfully have our suspicions of Iran.

I'm just confused by your argument/logic. It's like me arguing in 2015 that Obama lifting sanctions is actually his way of making sure a deal doesn't get done. Is this another 4D chess move by Trump?

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Shapiro


https://twitter.com/benshapiro/statu...791454208?s=21

Dear god. What a fucking snowflake.

Originally Posted by cazzie34

If you think nonproliferation deals are fatuous, and international inspection regimes tied to revocable sanctions relief are a swindle, what are you planning to talk about with Kim Jong Un?

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...922053120?s=19

Originally Posted by jmc419

As I stated earlier I believe this is far from coming around to a full withdraw so I wouldn't give him this credit yet.

Originally Posted by cazzie34

Let's not call it a withdrawal. The us is breaking the agreement.

Yup

Originally Posted by jmc419

Haven't you learned anything from Trump?

It will be rewritten and slightly modified to better positions proactive to the US.

Yeah, that has worked out so great on NAFTA and TPP, as well as legislative battles like healthcare and the budget

Are there really people out there who think Trump is some masterful negotiator?

[AJF_41]

donny shitting the bed again

not surprised

[FromTheMorning]

Nuclear Bombshell: Trump bucks allies, pulls US out of ‘terrible’ Obama-era Iran deal
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...urces-say.html

Would've thought Fox News would be a bit more angry about Trump implementing sanctions and thereby keeping the Deal together.

[jmc419]

Glad were all on the same page that this is not a withdraw.

SAD it took a liberal to make the comment for other liberals to agree.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Everything I’m reading is he is pulling out?

[FromTheMorning]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

Everything I’m reading is he is pulling out?

No that's where you're wrong. He's actually plotting to keep us in. But first he has to strike the sanction hammer back down. Then Iran will be willing to come to the table to discuss a new deal that Trumpers will of course approve of.

[FromTheMorning]

Originally Posted by jmc419

Glad were all on the same page that this is not a withdraw.

SAD it took a liberal to make the comment for other liberals to agree.

You could honestly be Trump's press secretary. You seem to have no shame in distorting reality and spinning yourself in circles to defend a demonstrably false statement.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by jmc419

Glad were all on the same page that this is not a withdraw.

SAD it took a liberal to make the comment for other liberals to agree.

This is just sad now.

[Arby]

Not regarding anyone in particular....but just saying at a high level, as a mod, its hard to tell the difference between trolling and sheer ignorance

[Arby]

Im being gaslighted!

[Route_2]

Pride in being incorrect seems to be a feature of the Trump set.

I wish Trump held press conferences. It would interesting if a reporter could ask him to describe the different elements of the Iran deal and watch him just filibuster about palettes of money on a tarmac for ten minutes. He has no idea what the deal even is. He just knows Obama did it and Bolton wants to nuke Tehran and he needs a reason.

[FromTheMorning]

I get the feeling JMC thinks he actually knows what he's talking about.

[FromTheMorning]

Originally Posted by Route_2

Pride in being incorrect seems to be a feature of the Trump set.

I wish Trump held press conferences. It would interesting if a reporter could ask him to describe the different elements of the Iran deal and watch him just filibuster about palettes of money on a tarmac for ten minutes. He has no idea what the deal even is. He just knows Obama did it and Bolton wants to nuke Tehran and he needs a reason.

Great dealmakers like Trump don't need to get bogged down by details. They just instinctively make the best deal.

[zajDmB1]

23D chess guys.

[BTBaboon]

So, now that we know Trump is going to withdraw from the deal (and violate it, to boot!) - did we ever get an answer from those who opposed the deal on why unwinding the deal with no replacement is better/keeps us safer than the deal that was reached in 2015?

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

Everything I’m reading is he is pulling out?

That's a first!

Rimshot.

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

So, now that we know Trump is going to withdraw from the deal (and violate it, to boot!) - did we ever get an answer from those who opposed the deal on why unwinding the deal with no replacement is better/keeps us safer than the deal that was reached in 2015?

Still awaiting Jamie's response to this question from a week ago.

https://antsmarching.org/forum/showp...ostcount=80699

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by jmc419

As I stated earlier I believe this is far from coming around to a full withdraw so I wouldn't give him this credit yet.

Originally Posted by jmc419

The deal is not going to end.

Originally Posted by jmc419

Glad were all on the same page that this is not a withdraw.

Ahem...

WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-t...ord-1525800212

NBC News: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...es-say-n872291

CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/08/trum...twitter%7Cmain

Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...itter-business

Yahoo: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rev...041031763.html

Business Insider: http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...an-deal-2018-5

AP News: https://apnews.com/7769da33651a44919...mpression=true

Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...urces-say.html

CBS News: https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/tr...tream-updates/

ABC News: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...dlines_bsq_hed



I'll wait for your take on this sudden, and clearly unexpected (to you), news.

[FromTheMorning]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

So, now that we know Trump is going to withdraw from the deal (and violate it, to boot!) - did we ever get an answer from those who opposed the deal on why unwinding the deal with no replacement is better/keeps us safer than the deal that was reached in 2015?

Best of luck on your quest for an answer.