Dave’s IEM Recording Lambasting Pig/Fans

[dmbnut21]

Someone threw a pig on stage in Houston. No Pig. Coincidence? (probably).

[greenpeace41]

Originally Posted by Chumlee67

Screw it see the spoiler below:

From the show:

Dave:
“Look at all them signs. I will never play the pig until I see no more signs and when I see no more sign, I might play the Pig. But if I see the signs I will never play the Pig. Never. Never. We’re not gonna play the Pig if we see them signs. Ever. I see the signs and I’m just not gonna play it.
*Pig Tease*
(Something said by another member)
“No, you play pig by yourself. Play the melody.”

<Grey Street>

*Pig Tease*

<So Much To Say>
<Anyone Seen the Bridge>
<Too Much>
<What You Are>

*Pig Tease*
(Dave Laughs)

<Mother Father>
<Satellite>
<Angel>

*Pig Tease*

<Sleep To Dream Her>
<Grace Is Gone>
<#41>
<So Right>
<Everyday>
<Recently>
<Diggin A Ditch>
<Lie In Our Graves>

*Pig Tease*

<The Space Between>
<Stay (Wasting Time)>

------Encore Break--------

*Pig Tease*
“I’m was gonna play a little quiet song”
(Continues Pig Tease)

<Funny How Time Slips Away>
<Ants Marching>

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If this really is his attitude toward "hardcore" fans and playing what they want to hear, then it's safe to say that all the entitlement and belly aching about setlists that comes from that crowd is one reason we see a lot less variety on setlists these days. Out of spite.

It all fits right in with the stuff that came out in the vulture interview last year.

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by too69short

You can see from the setlist how often they messed with the crowd too..

http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...d=2&where=2001

Holy shit that show is also the first time Buddy Guy guested. Pretty neat.

[RSSR]

Dave got a pass by everyone during this time, in fact, I'd say 60% (or more) of the hardcores on nancies.org knew of this IEM and what he said about Pig.

If he would be caught on tape saying something similar about Dodo or [insert song] at Camden '19, everyone here would be roasting him calling him out of touch.

[Hahninator]

The difference is he went on to play Pig all over the next year.

[RSSR]

Originally Posted by Hahninator

The difference is he went on to play Pig all over the next year.

People were having conniptions and melts due to set lists throughout this year all the way till the Des Moines show, all of the Ants regulars/what's left would be calling Dave out of touch with his fans if the same IEM of this tour surfaced.

[wrhslax1996]

Originally Posted by RSSR

People were having conniptions and melts due to set lists throughout this year all the way till the Des Moines show, all of the Ants regulars/what's left would be calling Dave out of touch with his fans if the same IEM of this tour surfaced.

I don't know. I think that any musician who knows what the fans want to hear and doesn't play it just to fuck with fans is a dick.

[karczews41]

Originally Posted by wrhslax1996

I don't know. I think that any musician who knows what the fans want to hear and doesn't play it just to fuck with fans is a dick.

Or by not playing it he's showing his well known dislike for signs at shows. If you bring a sign and block others' views you don't deserve to get "your" song played. You're not more special/important than others at the show despite your obvious indifference to others' experiences at that show. I don't see it as a bad thing that he said it.

[excitingjae]

Originally Posted by karczews41

Or by not playing it he's showing his well known dislike for signs at shows. If you bring a sign and block others' views you don't deserve to get "your" song played. You're not more special/important than others at the show despite your obvious indifference to others' experiences at that show. I don't see it as a bad thing that he said it.

Right. By playing suggestions on a sign gives the impression that it's "Ok" to bring signs to the show because DMB will play your song. By not playing the song it discourages people from doing it. Not only does it stop people from blocking another's view but won't get people's hopes up when they don't play "Spotlight".

(as an aside and to bring up Phish because that's what we do - Trey once said he likes signs but if you put up a sign during a song it's a sure fire way to NOT get your song played.)

[garagebrothers]

There are few things in this world that I love more than DMB. Shit, there is not a single thing I have spent more money on my life than DMB. I have been seeing them since 1995 and I literally have listened to them everyday for over 20 years. However, I can admit that Dave has turned into a dick over the years, that he is out of touch, and honestly has the worst taste in his own music. And that sucks, it really, really sucks. But it's also his prerogative.

[wrhslax1996]

Originally Posted by karczews41

Or by not playing it he's showing his well known dislike for signs at shows. If you bring a sign and block others' views you don't deserve to get "your" song played. You're not more special/important than others at the show despite your obvious indifference to others' experiences at that show. I don't see it as a bad thing that he said it.

My point had nothing to do with signs. I understood the pig thing because of the signs. But I don't think people are bringing Dodo signs, so if an IEM surfaced of him shitting on a song fans were chanting for and saying "nah fuck 'em", that's a dick move. Signs aren't even allowed any longer, are they?

[gia_rootdivine]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

Why would you think Dave was drunk during a performance? I would bet the house that he wasn't drunk.

I am not personally sure whether any of the band members are known to drink before concerts, but my guess was that it happened sometimes!

I don't mean that he would have to be totally schwaysted as much as, if he had just enough to drink, going on this quirky tangent would have happened like it was second nature!!

[excitingjae]

Originally Posted by garagebrothers

There are few things in this world that I love more than DMB. Shit, there is not a single thing I have spent more money on my life than DMB. I have been seeing them since 1995 and I literally have listened to them everyday for over 20 years. However, I can admit that Dave has turned into a dick over the years, that he is out of touch, and honestly has the worst taste in his own music. And that sucks, it really, really sucks. But it's also his prerogative.

moreso than education, food, housing, cars, insurance?

or are you talking solely about entertainment and the costs associated with going to shows + music and merchandise?

[dmbnut21]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

Why would you think Dave was drunk during a performance? I would bet the house that he wasn't drunk.

This is a 2001 show so maybe that is an OK bet. If this was 94-97 I'd take your money...

[bigeyedpigs]

Dave got a pass by everyone during this time, in fact, I'd say 60% (or more) of the hardcores on nancies.org knew of this IEM and what he said about Pig.<br>
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If he would be caught on tape saying something similar about Dodo or [insert song] at Camden '19, everyone here would be roasting him calling him out of touch.

I actually think the 6/22/00,one was a little more off putting.

[RSSR]

Dave in one era of the band would get drunk before stepping on stage? Jesus. Never heard that one.

[wrhslax1996]

Originally Posted by RSSR

Dave in one era of the band would get drunk before stepping on stage? Jesus. Never heard that one.

Sarcasm?

[bigeyedpigs]

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<div style="font-style:italic">I don't know. I think that any musician who knows what the fans want to hear and doesn't play it just to fuck with fans is a dick.</div>
</div>Or by not playing it he's showing his well known dislike for signs at shows. If you bring a sign and block others' views you don't deserve to get "your" song played. You're not more special/important than others at the show despite your obvious indifference to others' experiences at that show. I don't see it as a bad thing that he said it.

I completely agree blocking someone's view with a sign is pretty shitty but I don't think that was the reasoning. Dave for the most part doesn't care what people want to hear, let alone worry about the six people that can't see because a sign is blocking the view. The pig thing, especially the Chicago show, was Dave just being petty.

[Cross the ice]

Originally Posted by bigeyedpigs

I actually think the 6/22/00,one was a little more off putting.

What happened at this performance? Just checked it out on the Almanac. First time Raven was played since 95. I had no idea that an early version of Raven was played in 95. Also JTR debut. Heck of a show.

[MarvinBerry]

Originally Posted by Chumlee67

Screw it see the spoiler below:

From the show:

Dave:
“Look at all them signs. I will never play the pig until I see no more signs and when I see no more sign, I might play the Pig. But if I see the signs I will never play the Pig. Never. Never. We’re not gonna play the Pig if we see them signs. Ever. I see the signs and I’m just not gonna play it.
*Pig Tease*
(Something said by another member)
“No, you play pig by yourself. Play the melody.”

<Grey Street>

*Pig Tease*

<So Much To Say>
<Anyone Seen the Bridge>
<Too Much>
<What You Are>

*Pig Tease*
(Dave Laughs)

<Mother Father>
<Satellite>
<Angel>

*Pig Tease*

<Sleep To Dream Her>
<Grace Is Gone>
<#41>
<So Right>
<Everyday>
<Recently>
<Diggin A Ditch>
<Lie In Our Graves>

*Pig Tease*

<The Space Between>
<Stay (Wasting Time)>

------Encore Break--------

*Pig Tease*
“I’m was gonna play a little quiet song”
(Continues Pig Tease)

<Funny How Time Slips Away>
<Ants Marching>

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Why is Dave talking like Trump?

[bigeyedpigs]

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<div style="font-style:italic">I actually think the 6/22/00,one was a little more off putting.</div>
</div>What happened at this performance? Just checked it out on the Almanac. First time Raven was played since 95. I had no idea that an early version of Raven was played in 95. Also JTR debut. Heck of a show.

The show you are referring to was the show before. They both had great sets, but check out the next show.
I haven't listened to the show in awhile but from what I remember Dave gets angry because of the signs and reads them to Carter, they go on for a few. I believe he says something along the lines of "pig, shit, I must be a damn fool". Carter asks "should we go into it" and Dave responds with "(...go ahead.) I got a microphone fuck em." I don't remember what is played next.
At the end, Dave says in a munchkin voice, it was a joke they had going on throughout the show, "let's too much these motherfuckers and leave this motherfucker". I'm sure that's just stage banter, but the more I hear Dave speak about his fans and construct setlists, the more I kinda wonder.

[TheStone91]

Originally Posted by bigeyedpigs

The show you are referring to was the show before. They both had great sets, but check out the next show.

I haven't listened to the show in awhile but from what I remember Dave gets angry because of the signs and reads them to Carter, they go on for a few. I believe he says something along the lines of "pig, shit, I must be a damn fool". Carter asks "should we go into it" and Dave responds with "(...go ahead.) I got a microphone fuck em." I don't remember what is played next.

At the end, Dave says in a munchkin voice, it was a joke they had going on throughout the show, "let's too much these motherfuckers and leave this motherfucker". I'm sure that's just stage banter, but the more I hear Dave speak about his fans and construct setlists, the more I kinda wonder.

Nowadays it’s: “Let’s Shake these motherfuckers and get the hell outta here”

[crashintonickdm]

Lol let’s too much these mother fuckers and get outta here

Iconic moment

[garagebrothers]

Originally Posted by MarvinBerry

Why is Dave talking like Trump?

Because they were on the Tonight Show together.

[deadendstreet]

Dave seems like he can be kind of a dick and this isn't the first time I've heard of him acting like one. I doubt this had anything to do with signs, instead, his rich ass was pissed that fans wanted to hear the good tunes instead of crap off of Everyday.

[karczews41]

Originally Posted by deadendstreet

Dave seems like he can be kind of a dick and this isn't the first time I've heard of him acting like one. I doubt this had anything to do with signs, instead, his rich ass was pissed that fans wanted to hear the good tunes instead of crap off of Everyday.

Holy ad hominem Batman