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Old 11-23-2021, 08:09 PM   #1
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I Can See Clearly Now video

No idea how I missed this last year, but damn I've never heard Dave's voice this solid, crisp, clear, and beautiful. The song is straight cheese, and I've always thought so, but his vocal quality on that video is superb!



I apologize if there was already a thread on this. The search gave me no results.
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    Re: I Can See Clearly Now video

    Never saw this, it's great!
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    Loved it, nice find!
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    I don't know if it's Raab we have to thank but Dave's voice here and the past couple of years has been just incredible. Love this.
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    Yeah, he sounds terrific on this. That was beautiful!
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    Old 11-24-2021, 03:13 PM   #6
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    I don't know if it's Raab we have to thank but Dave's voice here and the past couple of years has been just incredible. Love this.

    Combination of a lot of things most likely, working with Raab, having a personal trainer on the road with them and getting in drastically better shape, living healthy etc.

    Also they just did this song live a couple days ago:
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    Old 11-25-2021, 12:04 AM   #7
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    Are you serious? That is not Dave's voice!!
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    Old 11-25-2021, 03:22 AM   #8
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    Are you serious? That is not Dave's voice!!
    It is but it sounds very processed
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    Old 11-25-2021, 09:18 AM   #9
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    Ya they edited the shit out of his vocals but it does sound nice
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    Old 11-25-2021, 08:33 PM   #10
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    What sounds more processed/edited than usual? Nothing jumping out to me as out of the ordinary other than a bit more reverb that is typically on his voice on DMB albums.
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    I won't get into vocal processing discussions here. I've seen too many people not know wtf they're talking about, have only a CNN-styled knowledge of it, or just not have actual experience in doing the processing to talk eloquently about it. Yes, it's been processed. All vocals are processed these days, but they still can't fake vocal clarity or making a voice sound healthy without adding masking filters or shaping the sound differently - neither of which have occurred here. Reverb is added to everything in varying amounts and EQ is always affected somewhere along the way.

    I was just getting at how Dave's voice sounds healthy in a way that would have been a jumping off point, not the end result, and how he didn't need to flip to his falsetto to hit a few of those notes as strongly as he did. Thanks Ants for reminding me why I only hang here intermittently.
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    What sounds more processed/edited than usual? Nothing jumping out to me as out of the ordinary other than a bit more reverb that is typically on his voice on DMB albums.
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    I won't get into vocal processing discussions here. I've seen too many people not know wtf they're talking about, have only a CNN-styled knowledge of it, or just not have actual experience in doing the processing to talk eloquently about it. Yes, it's been processed. All vocals are processed these days, but they still can't fake vocal clarity or making a voice sound healthy without adding masking filters or shaping the sound differently - neither of which have occurred here. Reverb is added to everything in varying amounts and EQ is always affected somewhere along the way.

    I was just getting at how Dave's voice sounds healthy in a way that would have been a jumping off point, not the end result, and how he didn't need to flip to his falsetto to hit a few of those notes as strongly as he did. Thanks Ants for reminding me why I only hang here intermittently.
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    I won't get into vocal processing discussions here. I've seen too many people not know wtf they're talking about, have only a CNN-styled knowledge of it, or just not have actual experience in doing the processing to talk eloquently about it. Yes, it's been processed. All vocals are processed these days, but they still can't fake vocal clarity or making a voice sound healthy without adding masking filters or shaping the sound differently - neither of which have occurred here. Reverb is added to everything in varying amounts and EQ is always affected somewhere along the way.

    I was just getting at how Dave's voice sounds healthy in a way that would have been a jumping off point, not the end result, and how he didn't need to flip to his falsetto to hit a few of those notes as strongly as he did. Thanks Ants for reminding me why I only hang here intermittently.
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    Old 11-29-2021, 04:05 PM   #14
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    No problem, Mr. Pompous.
    Anytime. Give it a couple decades. You'll get there, too.
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    Old 11-29-2021, 09:21 PM   #15
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    Anytime. Give it a couple decades. You'll get there, too.
    Kind of lippy
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    No one ever talks about how Dave sounds like T-Pain on Radio City. I don't care because I love that Blu Ray, but I've always found it to be obnoxiously obvious.
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    Old 11-29-2021, 11:00 PM   #17
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    Anytime. Give it a couple decades. You'll get there, too.
    Fellow Michigander. I recognize the sass anywhere

    Thanks for sharing the video. I had never heard it before. Why is Dave obsessed with being in a TV set?

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    No one ever talks about how Dave sounds like T-Pain on Radio City. I don't care because I love that Blu Ray, but I've always found it to be obnoxiously obvious.
    As in they overdid it with auto-tuning his voice?
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    Kind of lippy
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    No one ever talks about how Dave sounds like T-Pain on Radio City. I don't care because I love that Blu Ray, but I've always found it to be obnoxiously obvious.
    I actually do. Itís why I find it personally donít enjoy listening to the album. You take away the rawness of Daveís voice and itís just not the same. Sometimes it helps like on that version of Some Devil and on Sledgehammer from Mile High.
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    As in they overdid it with auto-tuning his voice?
    Yes, go listen to Bartender. It's very noticable.

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    I actually do. Itís why I find it personally donít enjoy listening to the album. You take away the rawness of Daveís voice and itís just not the same. Sometimes it helps like on that version of Some Devil and on Sledgehammer from Mile High.

    Great example. That's another one that's definitely noticeable but necessary
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    Yes, go listen to Bartender. It's very noticable.
    Don't tell me this! I absolutely love Radio City. Particularly love the Bartender opener.
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    Don't tell me this! I absolutely love Radio City. Particularly love the Bartender opener.
    I'm no audio snob or music nerd, but you're really telling me you've never noticed it? It doesn't impact my love for it, but it always pops in my head when
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    I actually do. Itís why I find it personally donít enjoy listening to the album. You take away the rawness of Daveís voice and itís just not the same. Sometimes it helps like on that version of Some Devil and on Sledgehammer from Mile High.
    Another really bad offender is the Gorge 2002 DVD/CD (not the entire box set).
    One that really gets me is DIDO when Dave slides from a low to high note. You can hear the autotune trying to stop at each note chromatically all the way up.
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    I'm half expecting Dodo to chime in that there's different types of pitch adjusting software and it isn't always auto-tune but we'd only know that if we were informed musically

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    That is an interesting sound.. It sounds a bit "overdone".. protools, autotune, Dave didn't sound THIS good even in the 90's.. his voice has a natural gravelly sound to it..
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    I'm half expecting Dodo to chime in that there's different types of pitch adjusting software and it isn't always auto-tune but we'd only know that if we were informed musically

    Alec - musician
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    bored much? C'mon, Man! Don't treat me like Hilly just for not letting a snide remark from the peanut gallery fly by.

    I'll bet a lot on here can consider themselves musicians to varying degrees. I said nothing about musical knowledge, just that too many use a very barebones surface understand of recording as their basis for being contrary (and where's the lie? You've been here long enough to have seen it). Mixing is wholly separate from being a musician.
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    bored much? C'mon, Man! Don't treat me like Hilly just for not letting a snide remark from the peanut gallery fly by.

    I'll bet a lot on here can consider themselves musicians to varying degrees. I said nothing about musical knowledge, just that too many use a very barebones surface understand of recording as their basis for being contrary (and where's the lie? You've been here long enough to have seen it). Mixing is wholly separate from being a musician.

    Your point about his voice being healthy and not having to flip has more to do with being a vocalist than it does mixing and while I don't know the extent of Alec or Dank's studio experience plenty of musicians have enough experience to have a general conversation about his voice in studio, I just didn't think anyone was saying anything too crazy


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    I'm not kidding, I would love to know if I'm right or wrong. I always thought Radio City was auto-tuned. He does not hit half of those notes on the original recording.
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    I'm not kidding, I would love to know if I'm right or wrong. I always thought Radio City was auto-tuned. He does not hit half of those notes on the original recording.
    Definitely is, but subtle and tasteful.. if we have to speculate then it was done correctly.. I bet Central Park and Listener Supporter are to a degree as well..
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