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Old 11-15-2021, 01:44 PM   #1
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Will we ever get the Real Last Stop back? The song without the outro is not really what we all want.. it butchers the thing.. no last stop is better than truncated last stopÖ

The last time we heard the full version was Gorge 2018. It was very long with Hamilton de HolandaÖ an excellent version if you havenít heard it..

But if you watch the video, Hamilton is going off on a jam , and in his own world similar to Boyd, and Dave is trying to get his attention, looking back at Carter and laughing as the song is approaching 12-13 minutes now.. Hamilton just keeps jamming.. Dave is beyond ready to end it..

I think this moment is why we donít have the full version..
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  • Old 11-15-2021, 01:53 PM   #2
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    That is not the reason we aren’t getting the full version these days. It’s 100% on Carter and his ability to make it through that outro.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 02:27 PM   #3
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    Will we ever get the Real Last Stop back? The song without the outro is not really what we all want.. it butchers the thing.. no last stop is better than truncated last stopÖ

    The last time we heard the full version was Gorge 2018. It was very long with Hamilton de HolandaÖ an excellent version if you havenít heard it..

    But if you watch the video, Hamilton is going off on a jam , and in his own world similar to Boyd, and Dave is trying to get his attention, looking back at Carter and laughing as the song is approaching 12-13 minutes now.. Hamilton just keeps jamming.. Dave is beyond ready to end it..

    I think this moment is why we donít have the full version..
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    That is not the reason we arenít getting the full version these days. Itís 100% on Carter and his ability to make it through that outro.
    This. It's the same reason why Two Step is barely played.

    It just is what it is. My man Carter is 63 years old. His style of playing has calmed down significantly. Just look at the end jam of Crush.

    That being said... "calmed down significantly" for Carter is still wicked crazy.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 03:14 PM   #4
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    Re: Last Stop

    You're telling you'd prefer Shake Me, Bayou or Can't Stop over the front half of Last Stop? I'd take a verses and choruses only Last Stop over a lot of the catalog.

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    Old 11-15-2021, 03:30 PM   #5
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    This guy again? Trolling every chance he can. Piss off ya wanker! I was at MSG for both nights, the band is excellent, the songs were on point. I’m sorry you can’t experience it live like it should be, but give it a rest man.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 04:08 PM   #6
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    This guy again? Trolling every chance he can. Piss off ya wanker! I was at MSG for both nights, the band is excellent, the songs were on point. Iím sorry you canít experience it live like it should be, but give it a rest man.
    Sorry you donít share the same opinion but your vitriol towards this is a little over the top no? Just trying to have a conversation here.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 04:11 PM   #7
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    yeah the outro is what makes the song for me, shame it's gone
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    Old 11-15-2021, 04:15 PM   #8
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    yeah the outro is what makes the song for me, shame it's gone
    Yes. A shortened two step works or segue into whatever.. the entire best part of LS is the outro.. always has beenÖ

    I donít but that itís Carter.. because they still do tons of 2-3 song segues that end up being 12-15 minutes with no break. SMTS - ASTB - Too Much is 15 min easy.. Jimi into cover sing is 15 plusÖ
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    Old 11-15-2021, 04:27 PM   #9
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    I tell myself they took it off in order to bring it back at a really cool moment, but I don't really believe that
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    Old 11-15-2021, 05:00 PM   #10
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    Sorry you donít share the same opinion but your vitriol towards this is a little over the top no? Just trying to have a conversation here.
    No you're not, you made that comment purposely to draw a reaction. It's a reasonable conversation starter to ask whether we will ever see a full Last Stop again, but you casually throw in a "no Last Stop is better than truncated Last Stop" line. You knew exactly what you were doing.

    It's completely your opinion, of course. But I can't believe someone exists who loves the full Last Stop but hates a truncated Last Stop so much that you would rather get SMLAM. I truly don't believe it for a second.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 05:31 PM   #11
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    No you're not, you made that comment purposely to draw a reaction. It's a reasonable conversation starter to ask whether we will ever see a full Last Stop again, but you casually throw in a "no Last Stop is better than truncated Last Stop" line. You knew exactly what you were doing.

    It's completely your opinion, of course. But I can't believe someone exists who loves the full Last Stop but hates a truncated Last Stop so much that you would rather get SMLAM. I truly don't believe it for a second.
    Ummmmi didn’t say exchange it for SMLAM did I?? Anywhere?? You guys brought that in.. to justify the troll commenting.. lots of great tunes to exchange it with.. that would be better than the 4 min watered down LS.. it is MY opinion..
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    Old 11-15-2021, 06:07 PM   #12
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    No way it’s due to Carter - the outro to last stop doesn’t have to be nor is by no means the craziest most taxing thing on drums. I mean unless I’m crazy feels like a song like Halloween is more of a workout than the last stop outro even though Halloween is only 5 mins long.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 06:14 PM   #13
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    I guess I have enough released The Last Stop in LTs, and the other live releases if Carter is having troubles, to satiate me. I'm fortunate I caught a full performance with Boyd, and saw it released. Not a big deal for me.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 08:06 PM   #14
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    Ummmmi didnít say exchange it for SMLAM did I?? Anywhere?? You guys brought that in.. to justify the troll commenting.. lots of great tunes to exchange it with.. that would be better than the 4 min watered down LS.. it is MY opinion..
    Ok I'll push you one more time. You did say no Last Stop is better than truncated Last Stop.

    So are you saying you would have preferred if MSG N2 ended just with Christmas Song, Ants Marching?
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    Old 11-16-2021, 04:27 PM   #15
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    I love the truncated last stop. When i listen to the CP bonus version (which is the best version btw) i skip to the next song once the singing is over.
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    Old 11-16-2021, 07:57 PM   #16
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    short version makes me sad, but it's still good. if it really is a Carter problem, might be time to have a second percussionist alongside him
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    Old 11-16-2021, 08:07 PM   #17
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    There's so much good music in truncated Last Stop, the lyrics are the point of the song, gives it all of its meaning and imagery. The full version is better but I'd happily take truncated Last Stop any day.
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