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Old 11-14-2021, 07:46 PM   #1
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2022 Tour Rumors / Confirmations

Thinking tour dates will be released earlier than normal
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    I'd love a Providence show if they're doing indoor spring shows, simply because I live like 20 minutes from there. But we'll see what happens.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 09:27 AM   #3
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    I bet they hit the road in/around April and go for another long tour
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    Old 11-15-2021, 10:37 AM   #4
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    Don't need chadizzy to start the thread to compile everything into one post?

    I also agree they start a little earlier in 2022, just because of these reasons:
    1. Fingers crossed, we seem to be emerging out of COVID-19 for real now. The winter 2021 run wasn't fleshed out like it could have been due to COVID.
    2. With an album release coming, they'll need all year to get to places they like to tour on album release years: South America, Europe, etc.

    We should see a few more festivals than usual next year and with everything going on, I'd also pick an April start like dontdrink36 said. I'd love a short spring run, full summer tour, and a real winter tour along with the international stuff sprinkled in between it all. They proved in 2019 they can handle the workload.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 10:41 AM   #5
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    I think they will avoid overseas for one more year. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you test positive while over there you have to stay for a while before coming back, correct? I ask because I think that is a thing but as someone who does not travel internationally idk. If that is the case it would be a huge blow to the tour if a "breakthrough" case happened over there
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    Old 11-15-2021, 10:54 AM   #6
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    The first, non rescheduled covid show for Lakeview Amp in Syracuse got announced today with an on sale date of 12/3.
    I don’t think we will see DMB announce any earlier than normal but I think we will see rumors sooner as management isn’t stupid and knows more and more tours will want to lock in dates this summer so they need to be on it for sure.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 11:18 AM   #7
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    I’d love for Seattle to get a show at the new arena. They could easily play a show there as part of a Spring Tour then still do Gorge over Labor Day.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 11:56 AM   #8
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    Total speculation but could imagine a series of 3-4 week touring blocks with some rest in between each block for the guys. Could still see 60+ gigs but over 5-6 blocks of shows and no "memorial day to end of July straight run"
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    Old 11-15-2021, 04:16 PM   #9
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    I have two main expectations for next year's tour:

    1. No international dates with the exception of Canada. There's still too much uncertainty not only in terms of how much COVID is still out there, but also in how things would have to be handled in the event that someone comes up positive while they're over there. With Canada, there's at least some consistency with the US now that the borders are opened, and with them not being able to go through with the Canada dates this year, unfinished business. It also goes hand-in-hand with:

    2. All venues will be Live Nation-controlled. This ensures consistency in terms of COVID protocols, which will be in place for at least another year. They definitely don't want a repeat of the Oklahoma fiasco. It also makes things easier to manage in the event that dates have to be postponed or re-scheduled.

    I also would not be surprised to see Texas and Florida bypassed if COVID protocols cannot be enforced there. The folks in Florida were lucky this year that they were early on the tour schedule before COVID protocols proved to be necessary; if they had been later in the tour, the shows likely would've gotten cancelled much like the Oklahoma ones did.
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    Old 11-15-2021, 04:24 PM   #10
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    The other big thing that I would not be surprised to see happen next year is the end of physical tickets from the WH. This does not mean that there would not be a lottery; just that instead of physical tickets, everyone would get links to download digital tickets into their Ticketmaster accounts and then if people need to re-sell, things could be handled through the TM ecosphere. There's always been some level of linkage between the WH and TM/LN, and with TM/LN going all in on digital tickets in our new normal, it's easy to see how the WH would follow suit.
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    I have two main expectations for next year's tour:

    1. No international dates with the exception of Canada. There's still too much uncertainty not only in terms of how much COVID is still out there, but also in how things would have to be handled in the event that someone comes up positive while they're over there. With Canada, there's at least some consistency with the US now that the borders are opened, and with them not being able to go through with the Canada dates this year, unfinished business. It also goes hand-in-hand with:
    The only official dates at the moment are international (Mexico).
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    The other big thing that I would not be surprised to see happen next year is the end of physical tickets from the WH. This does not mean that there would not be a lottery; just that instead of physical tickets, everyone would get links to download digital tickets into their Ticketmaster accounts and then if people need to re-sell, things could be handled through the TM ecosphere. There's always been some level of linkage between the WH and TM/LN, and with TM/LN going all in on digital tickets in our new normal, it's easy to see how the WH would follow suit.
    pearl jam did this for their ill fated spring 2020 tour and despite PJ having just as many complainers in their fanbase as DMB (if not more!), it was...pretty smooth actually
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    (of course, that was just for the ticket lottery phase, and some of the post-lottery/pre-show phase....they didn't get a chance to actually have any shows under that regime)
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    Fingers crossed, we seem to be emerging out of COVID-19 for real now. The winter 2021 run wasn't fleshed out like it could have been due to COVID.
    Don't agree with this at all. I think we have at least another year of COVID-related restrictions and protocols to look forward to.
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    The other big thing that I would not be surprised to see happen next year is the end of physical tickets from the WH. This does not mean that there would not be a lottery; just that instead of physical tickets, everyone would get links to download digital tickets into their Ticketmaster accounts and then if people need to re-sell, things could be handled through the TM ecosphere. There's always been some level of linkage between the WH and TM/LN, and with TM/LN going all in on digital tickets in our new normal, it's easy to see how the WH would follow suit.
    I can live with digital, don't love it... however let me get a printed copy, even if its an ugly TM stub. I'm willing to pay some extra money (its a heck of a lot cheaper then fighting for these posters lately with their immediate 400%+ mark-up).
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    The only official dates at the moment are international (Mexico).
    That's a Dave & Tim weekend where everyone is staying in resorts on-site. It's much less complicated to manage from a COVID standpoint than, for example, a full-band Europe tour would be.
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    Have I put my last physical ticket into my ticket album?
    Kind of sad. I could see a "souvenir" stub being a 10 dollar add on, maybe
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    I can live with digital, don't love it... however let me get a printed copy, even if its an ugly TM stub. I'm willing to pay some extra money (its a heck of a lot cheaper then fighting for these posters lately with their immediate 400%+ mark-up).
    If I'm right, don't be surprised if independent creators step up to fill the gap on printed stubs, post-gigs. With the amount of people that get fooled by scammers with fake tickets every year, it's not like they're difficult to make.
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    The other big thing that I would not be surprised to see happen next year is the end of physical tickets from the WH. This does not mean that there would not be a lottery; just that instead of physical tickets, everyone would get links to download digital tickets into their Ticketmaster accounts and then if people need to re-sell, things could be handled through the TM ecosphere. There's always been some level of linkage between the WH and TM/LN, and with TM/LN going all in on digital tickets in our new normal, it's easy to see how the WH would follow suit.
    Yep, you can take the barcode number off a Warehouse ticket and key it into the Ticketmaster Sell Your Tickets "from-any-vendor", section/row/seat will pop up, and sell a Warehouse ticket on TM just like reselling a TM/LN ticket thru their verified resale system.
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    Yep, you can take the barcode number off a Warehouse ticket and key it into the Ticketmaster Sell Your Tickets "from-any-vendor", section/row/seat will pop up, and sell a Warehouse ticket on TM just like reselling a TM/LN ticket thru their verified resale system.
    Interesting. So if you do this, do you have to ship the physical ticket or does ticketmaster generate a digital ticket and cancel the hard ticket?
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    Interesting. So if you do this, do you have to ship the physical ticket or does ticketmaster generate a digital ticket and cancel the hard ticket?
    The latter. I've done it twice in the past to get something for low-quality seats that I likely would've eaten otherwise.

    This is part of why it would be easy for the WH to transition to an all-digital lottery.
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    The latter. I've done it twice in the past to get something for low-quality seats that I likely would've eaten otherwise.

    This is part of why it would be easy for the WH to transition to an all-digital lottery.
    This is really interesting. If there's a way to do a private listing, once could theoretically sell the tickets through the ticketmaster system to a buyer from say, the warehouse boards. Ticketmaster would still get their cut, but if it's day of show and your across the country due to a late cancellation, that would potentially be one way around being unable to get the tix into the hands of the buyer b/c shipping is out of the question. Do you know if a private listing like that is possible?
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    This is really interesting. If there's a way to do a private listing, once could theoretically sell the tickets through the ticketmaster system to a buyer from say, the warehouse boards. Ticketmaster would still get their cut, but if it's day of show and your across the country due to a late cancellation, that would potentially be one way around being unable to get the tix into the hands of the buyer b/c shipping is out of the question. Do you know if a private listing like that is possible?
    I don't think there's a way to do a private listing on TM for physical stubs. TM generally restricts you from pricing below face value (this is to prevent a seller from undercutting inventory that TM might have available for purchase directly), and the ability to do a private listing would allow sellers to bypass that restriction.

    That said, if the WH does go to an all-digital ecosystem, things would likely open up since TM generally allows the direct transfer of digital tickets from one person to another without taking a cut.
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    I don't think there's a way to do a private listing on TM for physical stubs. TM generally restricts you from pricing below face value (this is to prevent a seller from undercutting inventory that TM might have available for purchase directly), and the ability to do a private listing would allow sellers to bypass that restriction.

    That said, if the WH does go to an all-digital ecosystem, things would likely open up since TM generally allows the direct transfer of digital tickets from one person to another without taking a cut.
    Oh yea, definitely. I am a proponent of all digital tickets. But I am not all that big into collecting stubs. Would make things so much easier if the tickets were digital and delivered into the ticketmaster app (or a separate app) where they can be freely transferred using ticketmaster's (or a similar) system.
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    pearl jam did this for their ill fated spring 2020 tour and despite PJ having just as many complainers in their fanbase as DMB (if not more!), it was...pretty smooth actually
    yep smooth so far, looking forward to 2030 when I can finally use my Toronto ticket
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    If Warehouse goes digital I would think the ticket limit would also be enforced across both Warehouse AND LiveNation/Ticketmaster so if you apply for tix on Warehouse get crappy uppers that's what you got cause you've already hit your limit. Can't go order from Ticketmaster/Livenation now if those are all tied together?
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    I highly doubt Warehouse would utilize a system separate from Ticketmaster/LiveNation - wayyy too much to worry about as far as logistics if they also stay with Ticketmaster/LiveNation - those systems would need to talk to each other seemlessly. Unless a system is already in the works from Ticketmaster/Livenation.

    Personally if Warehouse were to go digital I feel like that's another loss for myself as a Warehouse member. First no more Warehouse Photos, then CDs, now no commemorative ticket?
    Kinda reducing their reasons to buy membership.
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    Have I put my last physical ticket into my ticket album?
    Kind of sad. I could see a "souvenir" stub being a 10 dollar add on, maybe
    Maybe your last WH, but I know you can take your "digital" ticket up to just about any venue box office and they will print you off a physical ticket. Again, not a WH-official ticket, but at least something to add to the collection.
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    Bought WH tickets for FRI MSG last TUE, they were overnighted to my via USPS EXPRESS (big mistake), didn't get them WED, didn't get them THUR even though USPS EXPRESS is supposed to deliver 365, flew to NYC on FRI without the tickets. Told the seller how to do it and to just sell them on TM, get my money back. He did it but tried to instantly buy them back to give to me, they were gone instantly (or maybe well after, if TM took over an hour to post them). About 3:30pm TM dropped a bunch of side stage tickets, got the best pair possible, front row aisle pair next to Buddy. And on the train ride from LGA to NYC on FRI I secured a N2 Pit with poster on the Warehouse boards...successful weekend.
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    Maybe your last WH, but I know you can take your "digital" ticket up to just about any venue box office and they will print you off a physical ticket. Again, not a WH-official ticket, but at least something to add to the collection.
    Daughter did that with her World Series TM electronic tickets
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