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Old 11-06-2021, 02:53 PM   #91
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Re: Madmanís Eyes (New Song)

Not sure what to make of this one yet... The chorus is borderline embarrassing. Just because it invokes Minarets/WYA/Last Stop doesn't automatically make it good... Gonna sit on it for a few more listens though.
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    I really like what Stefan is doing in this song. My favorite part is the 2nd half of the verses.
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    Old 11-06-2021, 03:19 PM   #93
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    Madman's Eyes is badass; I'm so glad that this record is shaping up to be diverse musically and lyrically. For the fist time in a long time, Dave is writing dark songs again. Let's just hope that the studio version isn't ruined by Buddy's backing vocals. This song doesn't need Buddy singing a falsetto like he's Prince or Justin Timberlake in the chorus. This isn't a fucking R&B jam Buddy
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    I really like what Stefan is doing in this song. My favorite part is the 2nd half of the verses.
    I'd be willing to bet Stefan had a large part to do with putting this song together with the more proggy feel...I kept my eye on him during the song and he was totally in to it.
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    Really like the riff. Everything else is kind of meh.

    This. Iím not fully sold on it (yet at least).

    Need to give it some more listens before giving my final opinion on it.
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    Old 11-06-2021, 03:37 PM   #96
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    Not sure what to make of this one yet... The chorus is borderline embarrassing. Just because it invokes Minarets/WYA/Last Stop doesn't automatically make it good... Gonna sit on it for a few more listens though.
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    For the fist time in a long time, Dave is writing dark songs again. Let's just hope that the studio version isn't ruined by Buddy's backing vocals. This song doesn't need Buddy singing a falsetto like he's Prince or Justin Timberlake in the chorus. This isn't a fucking R&B jam Buddy
    Agree with these. I like that he wrote a darker song, but the lyrics/chorus/flow make it sound like a 15 year old tried to emulate the other Middle Eastern-sounding DMB songs. Hopefully it'll improve between now and the studio version, because right now it's pretty rough IMO.

    Edit: Just thought of a good way to describe it...it's like if Batson wanted to remake Last Stop.

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    Old 11-06-2021, 04:22 PM   #97
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    Pretty solid tune. Not perfect, but interesting and a bit of a nice flashback. Thatís all that we can hope for at this point. I just hope it gets jammed out more.
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    Old 11-06-2021, 04:58 PM   #98
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    I think everyone pretty much nailed their statements lol. I agree with a lot of people here.

    Record IMO definitely shaping up to be better than CT.
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    I think everyone pretty much nailed their statements lol. I agree with a lot of people here.

    Record IMO definitely shaping up to be better than CT.


    It's better than CT so far and I liked CT more than anything since Busted Stuff
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    Old 11-06-2021, 05:05 PM   #100
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    It's better than CT so far and I liked CT more than anything since Busted Stuff
    IMO AFTW was the best collection of songs and BW was still a better overall record than CT. I can really see anyoneís argument for any ordering of those 3. This one does have potential to be the best of the bunch.
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    Old 11-06-2021, 05:09 PM   #101
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    IMO AFTW was the best collection of songs and BW was still a better overall record than CT. I can really see anyoneís argument for any ordering of those 3. This one does have potential to be the best of the bunch.

    AFTW is their worst album for me and I like SU as a group of live songs more than anything since BS, regardless as you said this looks like an album to look forward to
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    Old 11-06-2021, 05:16 PM   #102
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    AFTW is their worst album for me and I like SU as a group of live songs more than anything since BS, regardless as you said this looks like an album to look forward to
    I agree that SU has some good live tunes but I think the album itself is terrible. AFTW has a bad stretch in the middle but Broken Things and Snow Outside are fantastic in my opinion. And The Riff, Rooftop, and Drunken Soldier are pretty good.
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    Old 11-06-2021, 05:21 PM   #103
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    I agree that SU has some good live tunes but I think the album itself is terrible. AFTW has a bad stretch in the middle but Broken Things and Snow Outside are fantastic in my opinion. And The Riff, Rooftop, and Drunken Soldier are pretty good.

    Yeah the actual album SU is terrible, I mostly just look at DMB's songwriting and how the songs are live, don't listen to the albums after about a week. When I say I'm looking forward to the album it's really just looking forward to a group of new songs to be played live, only exception is BTCS which I still listen to once per year.
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    Old 11-06-2021, 05:39 PM   #104
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    Awesome song. Awesome show. Place was vibing. Had a blast!
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    Old 11-06-2021, 05:43 PM   #105
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    Yeah the actual album SU is terrible, I mostly just look at DMB's songwriting and how the songs are live, don't listen to the albums after about a week. When I say I'm looking forward to the album it's really just looking forward to a group of new songs to be played live, only exception is BTCS which I still listen to once per year.
    Yeah that make sense. I listen to their good recordings so Iíd love to have another well-produced album of good tunes. Sometimes I put together a list of songs from the last three albums (and bonus disk) that would make the best record. Something like this (not in order):

    Broken Things
    Snow Outside
    Rooftop
    The Riff
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    Lying In The Hands Of God
    Baby Blue
    Squirm
    Do You Remember
    Idea Of You (although not a good recording)
    Again and Again
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    Old 11-06-2021, 06:25 PM   #106
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    Yeah that make sense. I listen to their good recordings so Iíd love to have another well-produced album of good tunes. Sometimes I put together a list of songs from the last three albums (and bonus disk) that would make the best record. Something like this (not in order):

    Broken Things
    Snow Outside
    Rooftop
    The Riff
    Drunken Soldier
    Lying In The Hands Of God
    Baby Blue
    Squirm
    Do You Remember
    Idea Of You (although not a good recording)
    Again and Again
    Samurai Cop
    mine would look like

    Idea of You
    Virginia In the Rain (acoustic)
    Black and Blue Bird
    Broken Things
    Sweet (2021 version)
    Snow Outside
    Why I Am
    Lying in the Hands of God
    Baby Blue
    Little Red Bird
    Beach Ball
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    mine would look like

    Idea of You
    Virginia In the Rain (acoustic)
    Black and Blue Bird
    Broken Things
    Sweet (2021 version)
    Snow Outside
    Why I Am
    Lying in the Hands of God
    Baby Blue
    Little Red Bird
    Beach Ball
    Ah I meant to include Beach Ball. Good call on acoustic VITR
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    Old 11-06-2021, 07:09 PM   #108
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    I think some of you just need to accept that you’re not fans of the band anymore, because this song is pretty much exactly what you’ve said you’ve been wanting for the past 2 decades and it’s still somehow “like Batson” or “sounds like a 15 year old pretending to be old DMB.”
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    Old 11-06-2021, 07:40 PM   #109
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    Really digging this tune. Hope they play it as MSG next week.
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    I think some of you just need to accept that youíre not fans of the band anymore, because this song is pretty much exactly what youíve said youíve been wanting for the past 2 decades and itís still somehow ďlike BatsonĒ or ďsounds like a 15 year old pretending to be old DMB.Ē
    Odd takeaway. Seems most people really like it.

    As far as Buddy goes, I doubt he will be that loud on the album version if he even is on it. May just be him singing Daveís harmonies live.
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    I think some of you just need to accept that youíre not fans of the band anymore, because this song is pretty much exactly what youíve said youíve been wanting for the past 2 decades and itís still somehow ďlike BatsonĒ or ďsounds like a 15 year old pretending to be old DMB.Ē
    The requisite 24-hour window of ball washing after a new song comes out is over. People can critique.

    Love the sound. Lyrics in the first verse are horrible. Lyrics in the second verse are great.
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    Just a few things I heard differently, in bold....

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    These lyrics are pretty freaking awesome too...gave it a shot.


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    Little Billyís got a gun, Little Billyís just haviní fun. Shooting bottles on the wall, dreams of heroes, open war. Is this real? Is this make believe? You'd think we'd know how everythingís supposed to be. Like a train blowiní full speed ahead, canít hear what youíre sayin' when everybody's screaminí.

    Iím afraid, canít lie. Mama said baby donít you cry, in the dark, be the light, donít let go baby, hold on tight. To believe is blind, donít sacrifice another child. Itís not black and white unless you're looking through a MadManís Eyes.

    Oh the truth might not be crystal clear but if might is right there's no room for love in here. Oh pray to God and hope he's listening, then a man with a gun brings the demons in. We live as if our hands are tied, is it really hard to do what we know is right? To protect the things that we hold dear must we do things that we should never forgive?

    Iím afraid, canít lie. Mama said baby donít you cry, in the dark, be the light, donít let go baby, hold on tight. To believe is blind, donít sacrifice another child, itís not black and white unless you're looking through a MadManís Eyes.

    Run and hide and donít ask why nobody sees the look in his eyes. When itís too late to untwist the knife, how do we face hatred with love inside us?

    Iím afraid, canít lie. Mama said baby donít you cry, go to the dark, be the light, donít let go, baby hold on tight. To believe is blind, donít sacrifice another child, itís not black and white unless you're looking through a MadManís Eyes.
    I think that this song (at least on the surface) is about gun control, but it could be interpreted like others said to be about divides in society in general.
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    This is a place Dave should live more often, vocally speaking. Really in range and shows good power. Also lends itself to some catchy melody which this song absolutely has.
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    This is a place Dave should live more often, vocally speaking. Really in range and shows good power. Also lends itself to some catchy melody which this song absolutely has.

    Can go so hard vocally when you are in a comfortable range, wish he'd belt on Seek Up like he did in Gorge '02 which I love and has no notes he has to reach for
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    Old 11-06-2021, 10:23 PM   #115
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    My first impression is this is more complex and interesting than most new material. Feels like it's missing something.
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    Dave just said something to the effect of "this is about the same thing on a different day" following Madman's Eyes into Grace....?
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    Old 11-06-2021, 10:31 PM   #117
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    I think there is a good chance there are strings on the studio cut.

    I think the song is great. The chorus is probably my least favorite part of the song, but not bad.
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    My first impression is this is more complex and interesting than most new material. Feels like it's missing something.

    A better outro, and a jam/solo section.
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    Pretty solid tune. Not perfect, but interesting and a bit of a nice flashback. Thatís all that we can hope for at this point. I just hope it gets jammed out more.
    Funny and accurate
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    Can go so hard vocally when you are in a comfortable range, wish he'd belt on Seek Up like he did in Gorge '02 which I love and has no notes he has to reach for
    Was just about to comment exactly the same, I like this song but love the fact that Dave is belting something out in range and not struggling into falsetto like he has done.
    This song also feels a lot more full band than just something Dave cooked up and they are adding some layers over it, will be cool with a better outro
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