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Old 10-20-2021, 04:31 PM   #61
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Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

There have been a few comments about Dave's use of multiple voices when speaking, many vocalists do this playfully while talking as a way to go in and out of the different voices also used when singing, it doesn't mean he is on the spectrum or drunk or anything else
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    Can we please just get this bullshit thread shut down already?

    Itís just a weak and wildly reckless discussion that has no merit to it.

    Absolute YIKES.
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    Old 10-20-2021, 05:29 PM   #63
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

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    I don't know if it's because he gets nervous in the spotlight, puts on an act for the general public, etc., but I had a retail job where he would come in a couple times per year and our manager wouldn't let us show at all that we knew him.
    holy crapÖ that does not sound easy. Lol
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    Old 10-20-2021, 06:03 PM   #64
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    I figured it out, Dave's got CTE from this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAsMCunCM8

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    Old 10-21-2021, 01:10 AM   #65
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    I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Dave drinks hot tea on stage for his voice.

    at it being OK to speculate on Dave being an alcoholic vs potentially being on the spectrum. Never change DMBc. Never change.
    His tea is spiked with scotch..
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    Old 10-21-2021, 01:11 AM   #66
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    Can we please just get this bullshit thread shut down already?

    Itís just a weak and wildly reckless discussion that has no merit to it.

    Absolute YIKES.
    You could say that about this entire websiteÖ itís based on what this thread is.. speculation
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    Old 10-21-2021, 01:12 AM   #67
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

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    There have been a few comments about Dave's use of multiple voices when speaking, many vocalists do this playfully while talking as a way to go in and out of the different voices also used when singing, it doesn't mean he is on the spectrum or drunk or anything else
    But it doesnít mean he isnít either correct or no?
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    Old 10-21-2021, 01:15 AM   #68
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    Ever try to play guitar while drunk? I'm not very good at playing the guitar but it's pretty hard to not make mistakes. Add singing to the mix..
    Tons of pro musicians and athletes do their thing completely fucked up.. they are just that good at it.. youíre not at Daveís level of playing.. heís been playing and drinking since 1976Ö. Probably harder to play straight
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    Old 10-21-2021, 01:48 AM   #69
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

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    Just the thought I was considering crazy, not you personally. Sorry if taken the wrong way.

    To me that tells a different story...that the environment is a huge influence on his personality. Just like people bite their nails when they're nervous, etc.
    Hear hear. This is the right way to look at this for sure...armchair physicians abound. Humans are complex and this guy that we like is no different.
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    Old 10-21-2021, 02:47 AM   #70
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    All we need is for a trusted insider to simply ask Dave: do you have a drinking problem still, and by the way are you autistic? Open and shut case.
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    Old 10-21-2021, 09:00 AM   #71
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    Can we please just get this bullshit thread shut down already?

    Itís just a weak and wildly reckless discussion that has no merit to it.

    Absolute YIKES.
    I totally hate people discussing things on a discussion board too.



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    Old 10-21-2021, 09:39 AM   #72
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    I totally hate people discussing things on a discussion board too.



    True but this has about as much traction as Dave possibly living in Japan.
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    Old 10-21-2021, 10:25 AM   #73
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

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    One of the things I respect the most about Dave is his professionalism and work ethic, keeps his private life private, does gym workouts and 3 vocal sessions per day before shows at night, mistakes happen but he's on point just about always. I appreciate how committed he is to being at his best performance level and don't think he'd go on some bender for four shows in a row.
    This.

    I asked a Band member once if Dave was ever drunk/high while performing. He said Dave never performs under the influence. I found that difficult to believe, because I thought for SURE he was (at least) stoned at Woodstock '99. But I was assured that was not a thing, ever. Granted, I could've been lied to because people don't want to discuss the inner workings of their organization. But I doubt it. I believed him. This was also 21 years ago, so maybe things have changed. But again... highly doubt it.

    He then went on to tell me stories of (a different, well-known band) who would always take acid during the '90's and play while tripping.
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    Old 10-21-2021, 10:29 AM   #74
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    I mean Dave said during Butterfly in 2004 at Farmaid he had a couple whiskeys before

    I think its extremley naive thinking to say he NEVER EVER has a couple drinks before the show- theyve played thousands and thousands of shows. Im sure there are shows he does, and there are others he doesnt.

    Just because he has a couple drinks doesnt mean hes loaded while performing on stage, people know their limits....


    Also that Dave and Friends tour Dave and Trey were pretty tipsy during the shows, including the one in 2006 at the cruise where Dave is ripping cigs on stage

    We know eventually what happened with Trey

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    Old 10-21-2021, 10:43 AM   #75
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    I mean Dave said during Butterfly in 2004 at Farmaid he had a couple whiskeys before

    I think its extremley naive thinking to say he NEVER EVER has a couple drinks before the show- theyve played thousands and thousands of shows. Im sure there are shows he does, and there are others he doesnt.

    Just because he has a couple drinks doesnt mean hes loaded while performing on stage, people know their limits....


    Also that Dave and Friends tour Dave and Trey were pretty tipsy during the shows, including the one in 2006 at the cruise where Dave is ripping cigs on stage

    We know eventually what happened with Trey


    Farm Aid after hanging out with Willie and especially the cruise where it was 3am or whatever are pretty different than a four show DMB run in my opinion
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    Old 10-21-2021, 10:49 AM   #76
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    Farm Aid after hanging out with Willie and especially the cruise where it was 3am or whatever are pretty different than a four show DMB run in my opinion
    True, but i mean it wasnt just the cruise.

    Look at all the Dave and Trey acoustic encores on that tour- its pretty obvious

    The guy is a rock star. Im sure he has a couple drinks to take the edge off before shows from time to time
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    He was high as a kite in Farm Aid '06, had wine at Mondavi Vineyards before playing 11/13/09, don't think this means he's Jerry Garcia
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    Old 10-21-2021, 10:53 AM   #78
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    I never said he was

    Not calling him an alcoholic for saying he prob has some drinks before the show at times. It comes with the territory, dont think its that big of a deal
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    I never said he was

    Not calling him an alcoholic for saying he prob has some drinks before the show at times. It comes with the territory, dont think its that big of a deal


    You maybe not, see OP
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    Old 10-21-2021, 11:15 AM   #80
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    No one in this whole discussion has provided any OFFSTAGE evidence AT ALL of any real signs of alcoholism or of Dave being on the spectrum.

    How a performer acts onstage or comes across, while sometimes sure s/he may have been drinking or high or acting in a way some fans would think was "not normal", ALL of that is still onstage and I've been around enough bands and artists pre-show, during the show, and then after the same show to know that some artists truly just become other beings when they're onstage.

    I'm not saying Dave is faking it or "transforms into another being" onstage, but performing is performing, it can bring other things out in people that you wouldn't see offstage, and also it can mean some people have a "persona" they become because that's how they put on a good show.

    No one has claimed any evidence or stories of any behaviors offstage that speak to alcoholism or autism, so to me, both of these speculative roads people are headed down in this convo are pure 100% speculation with zero actual evidence. No one can reasonably walk away thinking they strongly believe he's either.

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    Old 10-21-2021, 11:55 AM   #81
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    Why can’t he be both?

    Kudos to OP on this one.
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    Old 10-21-2021, 10:44 PM   #82
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    Maybe you all should worry about your own lives and leave Daveís private life to him and his family. Idle gossip helps no one and isnít fair to Dave. So shut the f up!
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    Old 10-21-2021, 10:49 PM   #83
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    Itís also not cool how you are characterizing Jerry Garcia who never spoke an hurtful word about anyone.
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    Itís also not cool how you are characterizing Jerry Garcia who never spoke an hurtful word about anyone.

    I'm perfectly fine commenting on Jerry Garcia accurately
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    Old 10-21-2021, 11:31 PM   #85
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    There are interviews (print and video) or Dave alluding to:
    1. Drinking a lot and believing some folks likely feel it's too much
    2. The he has two personas
    a. Dave, namesake of the Dave Matthews Band, the performer that he presents and we see on stage, and
    b. David, him in real life...the man, son, brother, husband, father, and friend...

    I think the one where he wears a gorilla mask through part of it has him stating both in the space of the clip that's circulated on YT. That video is more than a decade old I think. As to performing under the influence...it's widely known that he and Trey were at least drunk at some point during several of those shows. If you need proof, watch the videos...
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    Ever try to play guitar while drunk? I'm not very good at playing the guitar but it's pretty hard to not make mistakes. Add singing to the mix..
    dave has most likely rarely played drunk, if ever. Maybe an encore or soemthing? Buzzed ? Sure. But playing buzzed isnt more difficult. Its like playing pool for some people, you actually get better. Cause you lose the nervea of playing in front of people. And Id highly doubt that alcohol would even be daves first choice as a side kick on stage. There are far better options.
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    No one in this whole discussion has provided any OFFSTAGE evidence AT ALL of any real signs of alcoholism or of Dave being on the spectrum.

    How a performer acts onstage or comes across, while sometimes sure s/he may have been drinking or high or acting in a way some fans would think was "not normal", ALL of that is still onstage and I've been around enough bands and artists pre-show, during the show, and then after the same show to know that some artists truly just become other beings when they're onstage.

    I'm not saying Dave is faking it or "transforms into another being" onstage, but performing is performing, it can bring other things out in people that you wouldn't see offstage, and also it can mean some people have a "persona" they become because that's how they put on a good show.

    No one has claimed any evidence or stories of any behaviors offstage that speak to alcoholism or autism, so to me, both of these speculative roads people are headed down in this convo are pure 100% speculation with zero actual evidence. No one can reasonably walk away thinking they strongly believe he's either.

    https://youtu.be/rhLmMAfAHeU anybody other than dave id say they were drunk here. But dave just has that personality on camera where people are wondering what he is on. Its been a topic ever since they started playing. dave doesnt have a drinking problem. Drinking before the show, during the show, if he were to do that, theres nothing wrong with it.
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    He was high as a kite in Farm Aid '06, had wine at Mondavi Vineyards before playing 11/13/09, don't think this means he's Jerry Garcia


    Maybe he should drink more then
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    Maybe he should drink more then


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    https://youtu.be/rhLmMAfAHeU anybody other than dave id say they were drunk here. But dave just has that personality on camera where people are wondering what he is on. Its been a topic ever since they started playing. dave doesnt have a drinking problem. Drinking before the show, during the show, if he were to do that, theres nothing wrong with it.
    Lol. If you donít think he is fucked up there you must be blind. No offense.
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