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Old 10-19-2021, 02:53 AM   #1
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Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

Someone asked me, and with the rumors flying around that he was drunk for the 4 show run they just did.. it makes you wonderÖ
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    "I’ve had a lot more drinking in my life than I would’ve if my job hadn’t put me in an environment where everybody was celebrating drinking," he says. "All the years we played clubs and frats — every single night we would be drinking and doing whatever else was happening, I still drink, and I keep my center better, I do worry about destroying my mind sometimes."

    "But if I don’t have a drink for a month, I don’t — it’s harder for me to give up bread than it is to give up alcohol. But I like a drink. I grew up in an extended family that likes to drink. My mom, she enjoys a glass of wine or some whisky, but she’s quite moderate relative to my uncles — South Africans are pretty big drinkers. I’ve seen a lot of people around me go sober. The fish always gets bigger when they tell their drinking stories again, but I understand that as well."

    "Maybe I’m lying to myself, but the reason I don’t really think I’m an alcoholic is because I don’t miss it when I don’t have it. There’s no question that my favorite thing about mowing the lawn is drinking the beer when I’m done, and getting to the bottom of a bottle of Jameson with a friend feels like some sort of poetic achievement — even if it’s really just two people getting drunk. I don’t know if any of that will convince anyone that I’m not an alcoholic, but I don’t have any friends who’ve said, “I think you have a drinking problem.” Maybe that’s just because when I’m drunk I’m a lot of fun."
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    "Iíve had a lot more drinking in my life than I wouldíve if my job hadnít put me in an environment where everybody was celebrating drinking," he says. "All the years we played clubs and frats ó every single night we would be drinking and doing whatever else was happening, I still drink, and I keep my center better, I do worry about destroying my mind sometimes."

    "But if I donít have a drink for a month, I donít ó itís harder for me to give up bread than it is to give up alcohol. But I like a drink. I grew up in an extended family that likes to drink. My mom, she enjoys a glass of wine or some whisky, but sheís quite moderate relative to my uncles ó South Africans are pretty big drinkers. Iíve seen a lot of people around me go sober. The fish always gets bigger when they tell their drinking stories again, but I understand that as well."

    "Maybe Iím lying to myself, but the reason I donít really think Iím an alcoholic is because I donít miss it when I donít have it. Thereís no question that my favorite thing about mowing the lawn is drinking the beer when Iím done, and getting to the bottom of a bottle of Jameson with a friend feels like some sort of poetic achievement ó even if itís really just two people getting drunk. I donít know if any of that will convince anyone that Iím not an alcoholic, but I donít have any friends whoíve said, ďI think you have a drinking problem.Ē Maybe thatís just because when Iím drunk Iím a lot of fun."
    Sounds like a guy trying to explain a drinking problem over 3 paragraphs..
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    Old 10-19-2021, 03:16 AM   #4
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    I mean he owns a winery and is in a band, of course he drinks.
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    Someone asked me, and with the rumors flying around that he was drunk for the 4 show run they just did.. it makes you wonderÖ

    What rumorsÖ?
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    Come on man, they're flying around. You can just reach up and catch one!
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    Old 10-19-2021, 09:43 AM   #7
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    This post is absolutely representative of a drunk that posted at 1:53AM.
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    Old 10-19-2021, 09:55 AM   #8
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    Come on man, they're flying around. You can just reach up and catch one!
    I don't know why, but this really got me.
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    Old 10-19-2021, 10:52 AM   #9
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    "Iíve had a lot more drinking in my life than I wouldíve if my job hadnít put me in an environment where everybody was celebrating drinking," he says. "All the years we played clubs and frats ó every single night we would be drinking and doing whatever else was happening, I still drink, and I keep my center better, I do worry about destroying my mind sometimes."

    "But if I donít have a drink for a month, I donít ó itís harder for me to give up bread than it is to give up alcohol. But I like a drink. I grew up in an extended family that likes to drink. My mom, she enjoys a glass of wine or some whisky, but sheís quite moderate relative to my uncles ó South Africans are pretty big drinkers. Iíve seen a lot of people around me go sober. The fish always gets bigger when they tell their drinking stories again, but I understand that as well."

    "Maybe Iím lying to myself, but the reason I donít really think Iím an alcoholic is because I donít miss it when I donít have it. Thereís no question that my favorite thing about mowing the lawn is drinking the beer when Iím done, and getting to the bottom of a bottle of Jameson with a friend feels like some sort of poetic achievement ó even if itís really just two people getting drunk. I donít know if any of that will convince anyone that Iím not an alcoholic, but I donít have any friends whoíve said, ďI think you have a drinking problem.Ē Maybe thatís just because when Iím drunk Iím a lot of fun."
    This is my relationship with alcohol. Maybe not so frequently seeing the bottom of a bottle, but it has happened. Iím a very functional member of society, Iíve had frank discussions about my concerns with my wife and even she tells me not drinking is not a long term solution for who I am (realize this is a loaded statement). Still, alcohol is a demon, just a matter of how much you/your life partners like that demon on you.
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    Old 10-19-2021, 11:30 AM   #10
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    Where did this excerpt come from?
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    Old 10-19-2021, 12:12 PM   #11
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    Where did this excerpt come from?
    https://kiss108.iheart.com/content/2...th-alcoholism/
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    Old 10-19-2021, 12:30 PM   #12
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    First off, would love to see where these "rumors" originated...

    Secondly, why does the fact that he may have been drunk automatically equate to him having a drinking problem?
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    Old 10-19-2021, 12:47 PM   #13
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    maybe thats why he's horrible at "normal" conversation/talking
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    maybe thats why he's horrible at "normal" conversation/talking
    Did Dave himself say he's "horrible at regular conversation/talking"? Or others who know him well said that?

    If he said it, does he say it often?

    In the years I was around the band a bit, I found as long as the conversation wasn't about him, he was fine. But also sometimes awkward or goofy, which was toally endearing.

    I believe he said it, just curious about the context?
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    Old 10-19-2021, 01:20 PM   #15
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    Thanks for posting that, VERY open & honest interview. Have not seen him talk about not liking his onstage self much before.

    Very curious, did this interview or any others like it elicit much of a reaction in this community when they came out?
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    "Iíve had a lot more drinking in my life than I wouldíve if my job hadnít put me in an environment where everybody was celebrating drinking," he says. "All the years we played clubs and frats ó every single night we would be drinking and doing whatever else was happening, I still drink, and I keep my center better, I do worry about destroying my mind sometimes."

    "But if I donít have a drink for a month, I donít ó itís harder for me to give up bread than it is to give up alcohol. But I like a drink. I grew up in an extended family that likes to drink. My mom, she enjoys a glass of wine or some whisky, but sheís quite moderate relative to my uncles ó South Africans are pretty big drinkers. Iíve seen a lot of people around me go sober. The fish always gets bigger when they tell their drinking stories again, but I understand that as well."

    "Maybe Iím lying to myself, but the reason I donít really think Iím an alcoholic is because I donít miss it when I donít have it. Thereís no question that my favorite thing about mowing the lawn is drinking the beer when Iím done, and getting to the bottom of a bottle of Jameson with a friend feels like some sort of poetic achievement ó even if itís really just two people getting drunk. I donít know if any of that will convince anyone that Iím not an alcoholic, but I donít have any friends whoíve said, ďI think you have a drinking problem.Ē Maybe thatís just because when Iím drunk Iím a lot of fun."
    The bolded reminds me of thisÖ

    https://youtu.be/IAxh_CnMFuY
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    Is the idea of him being drunk based on the setlist for the second night in Colorado?
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    Re: Does Dave still have a drinking problem?

    There were a couple people convinced he was blasted night 2 in Colorado because he fell over while doing the jumps to close out the show. I'm not buying it.
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    There were a couple people convinced he was blasted night 2 in Colorado because he fell over while doing the jumps to close out the show. I'm not buying it.

    Sounds just like those that arenít familiar with his way of speaking into a microphone saying he was so fucked up he couldnít speak at ďinsert random show hereĒ
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    Reminds me of youtube comments from 15 years ago from people who don't know how socially awkward he is.
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    One of the things I respect the most about Dave is his professionalism and work ethic, keeps his private life private, does gym workouts and 3 vocal sessions per day before shows at night, mistakes happen but he's on point just about always. I appreciate how committed he is to being at his best performance level and don't think he'd go on some bender for four shows in a row.
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    Reminds me of youtube comments from 15 years ago from people who don't know how socially awkward he is.
    I've always maintained a belief that he (DJM) is on the spectrum.
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    I absolutely think he is on the spectrum. It obviously has not inhibited him from having a full life, but just from an armchair perspective, he certainly has a few indicators in the way he interacts with people.
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    I absolutely think he is on the spectrum. It obviously has not inhibited him from having a full life, but just from an armchair perspective, he certainly has a few indicators in the way he interacts with people.
    Understatement of the century right there
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    Ever try to play guitar while drunk? I'm not very good at playing the guitar but it's pretty hard to not make mistakes. Add singing to the mix..
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    I absolutely think he is on the spectrum. It obviously has not inhibited him from having a full life, but just from an armchair perspective, he certainly has a few indicators in the way he interacts with people.
    That's interesting, which indicators do you mean?
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    Although I see where the belief would stem, I don't really think it's fair to make an assumption about him being on the spectrum based on instances of him talking during concerts and interviews. None of us know him on a personal level. It could all just be nervous mannerisms which doesn't necessarily put him on the spectrum.
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    Is the idea of him being drunk based on the setlist for the second night in Colorado?
    If dave being drunk actually gets him to substitute in real encores rather than one of the same 2-3 he has been doing all tour then drink up dave.
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    Although I see where the belief would stem, I don't really think it's fair to make an assumption about him being on the spectrum based on instances of him talking during concerts and interviews. None of us know him on a personal level. It could all just be nervous mannerisms which doesn't necessarily put him on the spectrum.
    Agree. This thread is suddenly speeding quickly off the rails.
    Have been to so many shows, Dave is not drunk (may be buzzed, but doubt that) but his and the rest of the bands work ethic is pretty crazy and it shows. Youíre not doing what they do if your blasted. Being professional and not drinking at work is way different than getting drunk on your free time. I think thatís a major distinction.
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    That's interesting, which indicators do you mean?
    Rocking back and forth while standing still, his floppy arms/hands, avoiding eye contact. Odd speech patterns, talking in different voices as opposed to his normal speaking voice, being musically inclined... He also had a lot of trauma in his early years which could have triggered more pronounced symptoms.

    Again, this is all total arm chair speculation on my part. I do not work in the field, but he certainly exhibits some signs of being on the spectrum.
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