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Old 02-23-2021, 09:21 AM   #1
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2021 Tour Rumors/Status

Unless I missed it, I was surprised to see no existing general 2021 Tour rumors or status thread.

Is it a safe assumption that despite announced dates there wonít be a 2021 tour?
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    The 2020 Rumors Thread has become the 2021 Rumors Thread, and even the 2022 Rumors Thread a little bit! Itís quite a lively discussion!

    Basically, I wouldnít plan on anything for 2021.
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    Cancelled.
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    Old 02-23-2021, 06:43 PM   #4
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    I predict that the June and July dates will be cancelled. No shows scheduled for August. Tour will start September 1st in Vancouver BC. I think they will try as hard as possible to have even a short tour this year 2021 is their 30th anniversary year.
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    Old 02-23-2021, 08:01 PM   #5
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    25,000 attended the Super Bowl without a problem. There will be a summer tour.
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    25,000 attended the Super Bowl without a problem. There will be a summer tour.
    June and July shows will not be happening. From the Gorge on, we will see.
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    25,000 attended the Super Bowl without a problem. There will be a summer tour.
    cue proud monkey with his sports and concerts comparisons.
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    Old 02-23-2021, 08:40 PM   #8
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    cue proud monkey with his sports and concerts comparisons.
    Itís true, whether you like it or not. The super bowl wasnít relying on fans in the stands to make money. That is exactly how concerts make money.

    8,000 of them were fully vaccinated healthcare workers
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    Old 02-23-2021, 09:23 PM   #9
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    Itís true, whether you like it or not. The super bowl wasnít relying on fans in the stands to make money. That is exactly how concerts make money.

    8,000 of them were fully vaccinated healthcare workers
    How is this something that needs to be stated? People are actually arguing against this?
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    Old 02-23-2021, 09:44 PM   #10
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    How is this something that needs to be stated? People are actually arguing against this?

    I've responded to "if xxx number of people can attend this sporting event, there is no reason concerts shouldn't happen" many times the last few months.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 12:52 AM   #11
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    It’s unfortunate. Concerts COULD happen this summer, if everyone would just chill out a little. Require masks, and open the god damn gates. Sure, there might be a risk... but the majority of Americans will be vaccinated by summer. ALL of the vulnerable people will be vaccinated by the , which I thought was the whole point.

    These concerts SHOULD happen... ALL OF THEM. But they won’t, and it’s a bunch of bullfuck.

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    Old 02-24-2021, 08:55 AM   #12
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    Re: 2021 Tour Rumors/Status

    https://twitter.com/OfficialRandL/st...660336643?s=20

    Reading & Leeds moving forward this summer as planned.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 10:07 AM   #13
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    Itís unfortunate. Concerts COULD happen this summer, if everyone would just chill out a little. Require masks, and open the god damn gates. Sure, there might be a risk... but the majority of Americans will be vaccinated by summer. ALL of the vulnerable people will be vaccinated by the , which I thought was the whole point.

    These concerts SHOULD happen... ALL OF THEM. But they wonít, and itís a bunch of bullfuck.
    Hear, Hear!
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    https://twitter.com/OfficialRandL/st...660336643?s=20

    Reading & Leeds moving forward this summer as planned.
    Wow, that's very good news! Obviously the UK is a bit more homogeneous than the U.S., but I'd imagine by late Spring quite a few states will be in even better shape than the UK is as far as positivity rates and hospitalization rates.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 11:14 AM   #15
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    Re: 2021 Tour Rumors/Status

    Reading this morning that J&J will get approved on Friday + the Moderna & Pfizer shipment, it sounds like most adults will have a first shot by end of April. And at my Novavax appointment tomorrow it sounds like they could submit their data as soon as two weeks away with approval by end of March. All signs point towards herd immunity by Memorial Day if things go as forecasted.

    It's difficult for me not to say, start the shows in July if that's the case. I do think many venues will open back up this summer. Mostly clubs, outdoor venues, maybe some theater shows. But I'm full on Labor Day weekend as the launch point for normal concerts. If we can reach herd immunity by Memorial Day and have a normal summer with no major gaffes*, then let's restart life.

    *Small outbreaks will happen because pockets will not be immunized. Very similar to flu season every year. But it won't be severe enough to shut down anything, except maybe a school.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 01:50 PM   #16
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    Not a chance in hell I’m going to shows until there’s way more people vaccinated in the US. Even if they have shows this summer.

    I have an autoimmune child so I can’t risk bringing home the Rona.
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    Reading this morning that J&J will get approved on Friday + the Moderna & Pfizer shipment, it sounds like most adults will have a first shot by end of April. And at my Novavax appointment tomorrow it sounds like they could submit their data as soon as two weeks away with approval by end of March. All signs point towards herd immunity by Memorial Day if things go as forecasted.

    Most adults will have a first shot within the next 66 days?



    Herd immunity within the next 97 days?


    Really? I'll have some of what you're smoking.


    My guess....most adults will have a first shot by End of August. Herd immunity by Late October. Assuming no significant steps backward.
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    Not a chance in hell Iím going to shows until thereís way more people vaccinated in the US. Even if they have shows this summer.

    I have an autoimmune child so I canít risk bringing home the Rona.
    Thatís your choice and I think we can all respect your reasons.

    If the shows were to happen, you should be be allowed to get a full refund without having to jump through any hoops.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 02:57 PM   #19
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    Whatever happens with James Taylor I'm sure will happen with DMB.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 03:11 PM   #20
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    Most adults will have a first shot within the next 66 days?



    Herd immunity within the next 97 days?


    Really? I'll have some of what you're smoking.


    My guess....most adults will have a first shot by End of August. Herd immunity by Late October. Assuming no significant steps backward.
    Lol Shut up
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    Most adults will have a first shot within the next 66 days?



    Herd immunity within the next 97 days?


    Really? I'll have some of what you're smoking.


    My guess....most adults will have a first shot by End of August. Herd immunity by Late October. Assuming no significant steps backward.
    Do you even read the news or just stew in cynicism all day?

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    FDA staff endorses J&J’s single-shot Covid vaccine for emergency use — clearing way for third vaccine in U.S
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/24/covi...gency-use.html

    U.S. could reach herd immunity by late spring
    https://www.uab.edu/news/research/it...by-late-spring

    Johns Hopkins Doctor Thinks COVID Will Be Largely Gone By April, Half of U.S. Has Herd Immunity
    https://www.newsweek.com/john-hopkin...munity-1570615

    Pfizer, Moderna, J&J pledge 240 million total Covid-19 vaccine doses by the end of March
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/23/healt...rch/index.html

    U.S. Will Have Enough Vaccine for 130 Million by End of March
    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/pharma...y-end-of-march

    A U.S. Vaccine Surge Is Coming, With Millions of Doses Promised
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...e?srnd=premium

    AstraZeneca expects U.S. COVID-19 vaccine authorization in April
    https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...rce=reddit.com

    Covid-19 vaccines could be available to the general public in April in the United States, Fauci says
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/11/healt...day/index.html

    Fauci says the average American could get vaccinated against COVID-19 as soon as April
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ke/3764262001/

    Novavax Completes Enrollment of PREVENT-19, COVID-19 Vaccine Pivotal Phase 3 Trial in the United States and Mexico
    http://ir.novavax.com/news-releases/...accine-pivotal

    Novavax says Covid vaccine is more than 89% effective
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/covi...effective.html

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    US Vaccine Rollout Schedule

    Dec - March: 220 million doses (120 Pfizer; 100 Moderna)
    April - May: 180M doses (80 Pfizer ; 100M Moderna)
    April - June: 110 million doses of Novavax, if all goes well
    June-July: 200M doses (80M Pfizer; 100M Moderna)
    Feb-June: 100 million J&J doses - 100 million Americans

    End of March (220M doses; 110M people vaccinated) w/o J&J
    End of April (310M doses; 155M people vaccinated) w/o J&J/Novavax
    End of May (400M doses; 200M people vaccinated) w/o J&J/Novavax
    End of June (600M doses; 350M people vaccinated) with J&J doses and w/o Novavax

    USA has about 265 million Americans 16 years or older (as of 2018)
    71% are willing to get vaccinated - 188 million Americans

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    I'd keep going but I need to take a smoke break...

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    Thank you mule for another mule dump!!
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    Old 02-24-2021, 04:32 PM   #23
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    Lol Shut up

    Instead of being rude, perhaps you should put me on your Ignore list, so you don't have to see my posts. I have a right to my opinion. And apparently you seem to think my "opinion" has some bearing on what will occur. It won't, so if I'm completely wrong, you'll be get your essential DMB shows in a few months.
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    Do you even read the news or just stew in cynicism all day?

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    We'll see what happens. If I'm wrong, and there is anything even remotely approaching herd immunity by Memorial Day, I'll post about how completely wrong I was, and how you were dead on accurate.


    I will hold my breath that anyone who thinks I'm completely off base, will give any sort of apology if we're still waiting for DMB shows to happen come October.


    And I point out again, MY OPINION HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT WILL OR WON'T HAPPEN. I have tickets to both So Cal shows in September, and will be there if they occur. I'm not confident that they will though, but time will tell.
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    Thinking you have a right to your opinion without heaps of criticism is so ten years ago. Welcome to the new US. You must be new here.
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    Telling someone to shut up about their opinion is not criticism of the opinion though. Its basically telling someone not to express their opinion.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 05:08 PM   #27
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    Telling someone to shut up about their opinion is not criticism of the opinion though. Its basically telling someone not to express their opinion.
    Yes - and saying "it's just my opinion, it doesn't have any bearing on the actual outcome" when you just got slammed with 15 articles that are at odds with your opinion certainly opens the door for some criticism.
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    Old 02-24-2021, 05:15 PM   #28
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    Again, its not criticism. Criticizing someones opinion, having a difference of opinion, a constructive conversation...completely fine. Telling someone not to express their opinion, not fine.
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    It goes without saying sporting events and concerts have two different needs to occur. Nobody doubts MLB will start on time; it's safe to say there won't be any concerts April 1st.

    The issue for a tour is that the schedule is planned to maximize attendance across multiple states that are all on different vaccination schedules. So even though CT, for example, could reasonably have a capacity concert in July(open vaccination effectively begins May 3rd in CT) , that same tour may not be able to go into PA the following day.

    Simply put, I fully expect most MLB stadiums to have some fans in attendance by July but because concerts rely on the potential of 100% capacity across the entire tour it just seems like most summer tours will be cancelled.

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    It goes without saying sporting events and concerts have two different needs to occur. Nobody doubts MLB will start on time; it's safe to say there won't be any concerts April 1st.

    The issue for a tour is that the schedule is planned to maximize attendance across multiple states that are all on different vaccination schedules. So even though CT, for example, could reasonably have a capacity concert in July(open vaccination effectively begins May 3rd in CT) , that same tour may not be able to go into PA the following day.

    Simply put, I fully expect most MLB stadiums to have some fans in attendance by July but because concerts rely on the potential of 100% capacity across the entire tour it just seems like most summer tours will be cancelled.

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