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Old 11-23-2021, 12:12 AM   #13441
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This video of this guy hearing Dave Matthews for the first time:

https://youtu.be/2RlK8BxJHDw

Just so cool to watch someone discover the magic of his voice and music.
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    Weird Al has never parodied a DMB song
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    Weird Al has never parodied a DMB song
    Someone questioned him about this, and Weird Al's response was it just fell through the cracks.
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    Old 11-23-2021, 09:37 PM   #13445
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    Weird Al has never parodied a DMB song
    This clip (go to the 30 second mark) was the inspiration for Weird Al’s almost,but never to be ,DMB song “Pants Marching”.
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    Old 11-24-2021, 03:51 AM   #13446
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    Someone questioned him about this, and Weird Al's response was it just fell through the cracks.

    that was me. i met al at a convention probably about 8 years ago now and got to talk to him for a couple minutes. he did indeed say that DMB just fell through the cracks, but that if he were to do a song, it would likely be an "in the style of" rather than a straight parody of a particular song.
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    Old 11-24-2021, 03:58 AM   #13447
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    This clip (go to the 30 second mark) was the inspiration for Weird Al’s almost,but never to be ,DMB song “Pants Marching”.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1fzZy-dAK4

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    Old 11-26-2021, 12:52 PM   #13448
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    The Gorge style alternate format played 10x better than the DMB2Sets format did. I’d be all in on a full tour that was:

    Dave solo 3-4 songs
    D&T 3-4 songs
    -Set Break-
    Full Band set about the length that they were in 2 sets era.

    A good way to hide Carter for a bit in his old age and get some solo and D&T performances the fan base so badly craves. I know it’s been talked about ad nauseam on here but the full band acoustic setting while cool in theory fell flat…I think Solo and Duo performances bump up the quality of “alternate format” shows considerably.
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    Old 11-26-2021, 01:38 PM   #13449
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    The Weird Arby’s Guy gone metal remix (there are DMB references)
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    Old 11-26-2021, 01:42 PM   #13450
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    The Gorge style alternate format played 10x better than the DMB2Sets format did. I’d be all in on a full tour that was:

    Dave solo 3-4 songs
    D&T 3-4 songs
    -Set Break-
    Full Band set about the length that they were in 2 sets era.

    A good way to hide Carter for a bit in his old age and get some solo and D&T performances the fan base so badly craves. I know it’s been talked about ad nauseam on here but the full band acoustic setting while cool in theory fell flat…I think Solo and Duo performances bump up the quality of “alternate format” shows considerably.
    As long as there's never more than just Dave and Tim on stage without a drummer again, I'm all for this.

    Really I think they should try a regular two set format. So many other bands do it and it's just easier on everyone
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    Old 11-26-2021, 04:12 PM   #13451
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    The Gorge style alternate format played 10x better than the DMB2Sets format did. I’d be all in on a full tour that was:

    Dave solo 3-4 songs
    D&T 3-4 songs
    -Set Break-
    Full Band set about the length that they were in 2 sets era.

    A good way to hide Carter for a bit in his old age and get some solo and D&T performances the fan base so badly craves. I know it’s been talked about ad nauseam on here but the full band acoustic setting while cool in theory fell flat…I think Solo and Duo performances bump up the quality of “alternate format” shows considerably.
    You do realize besides a few extra full band acoustic songs you literally described the 2set format. What exactly about what you described makes it so much better than the 14-15 2sets?
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    Old 11-26-2021, 04:40 PM   #13452
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    You do realize besides a few extra full band acoustic songs you literally described the 2set format. What exactly about what you described makes it so much better than the 14-15 2sets?
    2set was full band acoustic, then full band "plugged in". I'm not sure how that's the same as Dave solo, D&T, then full band.
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    You do realize besides a few extra full band acoustic songs you literally described the 2set format. What exactly about what you described makes it so much better than the 14-15 2sets?
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    2set was full band acoustic, then full band "plugged in". I'm not sure how that's the same as Dave solo, D&T, then full band.
    This. Dave and Tim opening with one or two songs then being joined by the full band to play 7-8 more is hardly the same thing as what we saw this year/I described.

    Like I said in theory it was a cool idea but the performances weren’t typically anything crazy. You could get some cool quieter rare stuff that doesn’t typically get full treatment. The flip side of the coin was more likely tho where you got a banger that sounded really good “plugged in” in the acoustic set and knew that it was off the table for the night which sucks cause you got the worse of the two versions.
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    Old 11-26-2021, 05:29 PM   #13454
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    There's only a handful of songs I'd like to see Dave and Tim play acoustic at a DMB show. The rest should be DMB electric. The '14-'15 shows did nothing for me except wish DMB play how they normally play.
    Belly Full
    Little Red Bird
    The Fly
    Singing From The Windows
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    Christmas Song
    Maybe I'm missing a couple others.

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    Old 11-26-2021, 05:36 PM   #13455
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    The Gorge style alternate format played 10x better than the DMB2Sets format did. I’d be all in on a full tour that was:

    Dave solo 3-4 songs
    D&T 3-4 songs
    -Set Break-
    Full Band set about the length that they were in 2 sets era.

    A good way to hide Carter for a bit in his old age and get some solo and D&T performances the fan base so badly craves. I know it’s been talked about ad nauseam on here but the full band acoustic setting while cool in theory fell flat…I think Solo and Duo performances bump up the quality of “alternate format” shows considerably.
    I left the gorge full of joy happy with the unique experience and I also enjoyed DMB 2 sets as well. However the gorge alt format this year was cool as a one off and not sustainable for the level of fun we get from a year like 2021 full band.

    After Gorge and Farm Aid stints i went to Mohegan and then N2 of MSG and those last shows i went to were far superior to the gorge if i had to choose what would be the tour norm.

    The only thing that really can be taken away from the 2 sets years and 2021 Gorge is that tim should be on acoustic guitar more and the entire band should play more songs in a campfire style sound (i.e. DDTW) when playing full band. Just as someone else said earlier in the thread embracing a 2 set (full band) format like many other bands do would be the best way to give carter and the entire and a break in the middle of the energy they bring to the stage nightly.
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    Old 11-26-2021, 06:25 PM   #13456
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    If yall honestly forgot how the 2 set format worked in 14-15 go check on almanac or something.
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    If yall honestly forgot how the 2 set format worked in 14-15 go check on almanac or something.

    Go to the almanac in 2014…pick any random show, Dave and Tim open a song, sometimes two, and then the full band comes out. There’s a rare one here and there with a Dave solo opener…and then the full band comes out. Sometimes they would open full band.

    Just like was said…different from handful of Dave solo and a handful of Dave and Tim. The acoustic sets were 85-90% full band compared to the 0% we’re talking about.
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    If yall honestly forgot how the 2 set format worked in 14-15 go check on almanac or something.
    Gorge N1:
    2014: D (1), DT (2), FBA (5) <break> FBE (12) <encore break> FBE (3)
    2015: D (1), DT (1), FBA (6) <break> FBE (11) <encore break> PB (1), FBE (1)
    2021: D (3), DT (3), FBE (11) <encore break> D (1), DT (1)

    Gorge N2
    2014: D (1), DT (1), FBA (6) <break> FBE (13) <encore break> FBE (5)
    2015: D (1), DT (1), FBA (6) <break> FBE (13) <encore break> FBE (1)
    2021: D (4), DT (5), FBE (9) <encore break> DT (2)

    Gorge N3
    2014: D (1), FBA (8) <break> FBE (12) <encore break> D(1), FBE (2)
    2015: D (3), DT (1), FBA (5) <break> FBE (13) <encore break> FBE (2)
    2021: D (6), DT (6), FBE (11) <encore break> DT (2)


    D = Dave Solo
    DT = Dave & Tim
    FBA = Full Band Acoustic
    FBE = Full Band Electric
    PB = Partial Band


    I'm not sure the 1-4 D/DT songs at the start of the 2sets is really equivalent to the 6-12 D/DT songs that were seen in the alternative format.

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    I'll feel cheated if the band played more than two acoustic songs at a full band show.
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    Obviously the Gorge in '21 was different, what choice did we have? No concert?
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    Obviously the Gorge in '21 was different, what choice did we have? No concert?

    We’re a few years out but the point I was making was kind of in reference to the future…that might be the dilemma we face at some point down the road. Switch to a format that is a little more forgiving or not have tours at all.
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    We’re a few years out but the point I was making was kind of in reference to the future…that might be the dilemma we face at some point down the road. Switch to a format that is a little more forgiving or not have tours at all.
    You'd find lots of examples, from a lot of people that left these boards seemingly for good, and some still around, that they want the band to stay in '90s or early-mid '00s setlists.
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    We’re a few years out but the point I was making was kind of in reference to the future…that might be the dilemma we face at some point down the road. Switch to a format that is a little more forgiving or not have tours at all.
    I don't think those are the 2 options the reality would be less tour dates overall for the full band and maybe we get more dave and tim spring/fall tours.

    I don't see the full band doing these split format shows for 40ish dates. I think is cater starts feeling more fatigued they scale down to 20-30 full band shows and then they fill in open dates with dave and tim or even dave and friends depending on what friends are free

    About 5 years ago the band started having that break between the south and west coast swings and that may have been a nod to carters wear and tear and dave's voice.
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    I don't think those are the 2 options the reality would be less tour dates overall for the full band and maybe we get more dave and tim spring/fall tours.

    I don't see the full band doing these split format shows for 40ish dates. I think is cater starts feeling more fatigued they scale down to 20-30 full band shows and then they fill in open dates with dave and tim or even dave and friends depending on what friends are free

    About 5 years ago the band started having that break between the south and west coast swings and that may have been a nod to carters wear and tear and dave's voice.

    carter has mentioned that two step closers are too hard for him anymore, but they're still doing long tours with only regular off-days between shows, which suggests that the issue is the length of playing for a show, not a tour. carter is still good doing 40+ shows in a tour. he's not good with doing 3+ hours and ending with a 15-20 minute long smash-a-thon on the drums. i would think thats a sign that if he needs to tone things down, it would be the amount of playing in a show rather than over the course of a tour. so a full tour of the alternate format would make more sense than a shorter tour of full shows.

    also, the august break started in 2012, the year after the caravans. i think the band just realized that they like having some extended time off in the summer. coupled with not playing as many shows/venues since then, and there is no need to play straight through. enjoy a bit of summer with the family.
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