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Old 03-29-2018, 11:29 AM   #76411
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I own 5 ARs, Bullpup, Pistol AR, Short barreled Rifles, several other regular rifles and about 10 handguns.

The deal is it’s none of your business what I do with them cause I am responsible.

You answered your own question.
Until you aren't.

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Don't take something from me vs force me to have something I don't want

not really the same thing



Amend the COTUS then.
I didn't say health insurance. I said health care. You're not going to want healthcare when you get sick? Or break something? Weird. Such a tough guy.
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    Arguing that you dont want healthcare
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:29 AM   #76413
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    I was unaware that the first ten amendments were called the "Bill of Needs." Interesting. When did that change?
    Why are you so opposed to change?
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    Youre right, you can do whatever you want with them, except shoot them in neighborhoods or kill people with them. So if you want to fire them, you go to a range or have one set up on your property.
    Correct

    That’s what 99.9999% of people who own them do.
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:30 AM   #76415
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    Why are you so opposed to change?
    America's perfect as is
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:31 AM   #76416
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    Until you aren't.
    lol

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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:32 AM   #76417
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    Sandy Hook kid's mom was a "responsible" gun owner, right?
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:33 AM   #76418
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    America's perfect as is
    No no... we need to go back to the 50's.. thats when 'Merica was 'Merica. MAGA, remember?
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:34 AM   #76419
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    America's perfect as is
    Conditions in 1791 were perfect for the foundation of America forever going forward.

    Reminds me of Family Guy's Amish prayer

    https://youtu.be/MuobI8NLM4U?t=33
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:34 AM   #76420
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    I own 5 ARs, Bullpup, Pistol AR, Short barreled Rifles, several other regular rifles and about 10 handguns.

    The deal is it’s none of your business what I do with them cause I am responsible.

    You answered your own question.
    LOVE my SBR with silencer

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    But you don't own any automatic weapons. Does that legitimately bother you?
    I don't want a full auto. I should be able to purchase one without paying a tax, however.

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    Why are you so opposed to change?
    I'm not opposed to all change.

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    Until you aren't.

    I didn't say health insurance. I said health care. You're not going to want healthcare when you get sick? Or break something? Weird. Such a tough guy.
    ooo pre crimes?

    Don't play coy with me. Getting everyone health care resulted in forcing people to buy health insurance or pay a penalty if you didn't.
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:36 AM   #76421
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    Sandy Hook kid's mom was a "responsible" gun owner, right?
    Attacking a murder victim. Nice.
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:37 AM   #76422
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    Don't play coy with me. Getting everyone health care resulted in forcing people to buy health insurance or pay a penalty if you didn't.
    Thats only because the health care/insurance structure of this country is so out of whack fucked and too much money from big pharma and insurance companies did everything they could to block it.


    There is sensible healthcare reform easily possible if there werent so much money at odds with allowing it to happen.
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:40 AM   #76423
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    I dont know the number but there are definitely a handful documented in recent years.
    Find the number for me if you can, please. I think it is only one.
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:40 AM   #76424
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    Attacking a murder victim. Nice.


    You attack murder victims literally every time it's a black dude.

    Anyway, as usual jeepkid took this thread down the shitter, so I'm stepping out for a bit. Have fun!
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    You attack murder victims literally every time it's a black dude.

    Anyway, as usual jeepkid took this thread down the shitter, so I'm stepping out for a bit. Have fun!
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    I'm not opposed to all change.
    No, only change that would impact you a little bit, but help a large number of people a great deal (you know, stay alive). Seems logical.
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    I'm stepping out for a bit. Have fun!
    Be safe.

    There are still large sugary beverages out on the streets.
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:47 AM   #76428
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    Be safe.

    There are still large sugary beverages out on the streets.
    You seem to have some expensive hobbies, thedak.

    Do you mind if I ask what you do for a living?
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    Old 03-29-2018, 11:48 AM   #76429
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    Correct

    That’s what 99.9999% of people who own them do.
    Agreed, I do not know any gun owners who are not borderline OCD in terms of being safe with their weapons whether it is storing them securely, cleaning them meticulously or following every rule on the range to a T.

    Also, I do get why the AR15 is singled out as public enemy number one but to ban them entirely is just pointless because there are dozens of semi-automatic rifles out there (AK variants being particularly easy to find and cheap to purchase) that could be bought easily enough by someone with no criminal record.
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    No, only change that would impact you a little bit, but help a large number of people a great deal (you know, stay alive). Seems logical.
    1. You have no evidence to back up that claim.
    2. It isn't just me. Millions upon millions of gun owners would be impacted and would become criminals overnight if ARs were banned.
    3. More people use guns for defense vs offense. Access to guns helps more people stay alive.
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    Also, I do get why the AR15 is singled out as public enemy number one but to ban them entirely is just pointless because there are dozens of semi-automatic rifles out there (AK variants being particularly easy to find and cheap to purchase) that could be bought easily enough by someone with no criminal record.
    It's pretty obvious that it gets singled out because it's the weapon of choice for many mass shooting incidents. A new AWB would need to catch the AR15 and all those similar weapons you mention.
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    1. You have no evidence to back up that claim.
    2. It isn't just me. Millions upon millions of gun owners would be impacted and would become criminals overnight if ARs were banned.
    3. More people use guns for defense vs offense. Access to guns helps more people stay alive.
    Since we're asking for sources and facts.

    Is this a fact or is it just the concept that a gun can be used for defense, so having them is clearly safer.
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    There’s no connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it and not having a gun and not shooting someone.

    And you're a stoopid librul beta cuck snowflake with no brain to suggest otherwise, Jared. Obviously.
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    I'll take that to mean that you do mind. No worries, just curious.
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    Speaking of attacking high schoolers, another Fox News program losing advertisers over just that.

    I wonder if the state government where said advertisters are headquartered will also change legislation to negatively affect them?
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    I'll take that to mean that you do mind. No worries, just curious.
    Not a problem just isn’t important for in here.

    Solid discussions today anyway.

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    It's pretty obvious that it gets singled out because it's the weapon of choice for many mass shooting incidents. A new AWB would need to catch the AR15 and all those similar weapons you mention.
    Oh yeah, I definitely see (as I stated) why the AR has been singled out.

    As for renewing the AWB call me skeptical, it did not do all that much when it passed in 1994 and I doubt it would do much today, probably less since more of the weapons on the market are capable of not being classified as an 'assault rifle' by simple action of removing a scope or foregrip. Also worth pointing out is that many more are out in public today than back then and good luck getting people to voluntarily give something away that they paid over a grand for.

    I do not mean this as any sort of comparison really but since I am constantly told that it would be impossible to round up and deport the 12 million illegals but somehow magically we could round up and confiscate the 10-15 million (no one has exact figures for how many of these weapons are owned in the US) 'assault rifles' in the US - does that make any sense to you. Call me crazy but if I was a LEO would much rather try to arrest an illegal who may or may not be armed than try and take a semi-automatic weapon from someone you know is armed and in many cases skilled in using that weapon.
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    Oh yeah, I definitely see (as I stated) why the AR has been singled out.
    That's my bad. I read it as 'don't' instead of 'do' in my mind.

    It's an apt comparison with rounding up undocumented immigrants. I wouldn't see the authorities going into homes and seizing weapons. The owners of such weapons would just be criminals going forward for possessing them. There would be a buy-back period and then after that it would be a secondary crime if found in possession.
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    That's my bad. I read it as 'don't' instead of 'do' in my mind.

    It's an apt comparison with rounding up undocumented immigrants. I wouldn't see the authorities going into homes and seizing weapons. The owners of such weapons would just be criminals going forward for possessing them. There would be a buy-back period and then after that it would be a secondary crime if found in possession.
    Where is that money gonna come from?
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