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Old 10-21-2016, 06:25 AM   #301
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Legends of Tomorrow has been fantastic so far. I'm loving the JSA.

CW should do an entire series on the JSA fighting Nazis.
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    Trailer for the Flash/Arrow/LoT/Supergirl crossover:
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    CWverse is everything that is right with comic book media right now
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    I had no idea there was a Jonah Hex movie. Anyone seen it? Apparently it only made 10 million of its 47 million dollar budget and was a bomb.
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    http://www.looper.com/34051/patrick-...aster-aquaman/

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    Oh shit, this sounds really cool. Hoping for Catwoman, Huntress, Poison Ivy, and/or Batgirl.

    http://batman-news.com/2016/12/13/da...m-city-sirens/
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    Oh shit, this sounds really cool. Hoping for Catwoman, Huntress, Poison Ivy, and/or Batgirl.

    http://batman-news.com/2016/12/13/da...m-city-sirens/
    These villains should be defined in the solo movies first. What if the Catwoman that Affleck wanted is completely different from Gotham City Sirens, and as a result he just avoids key characters all together?
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    Down for more Harley!
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    Oh shit, this sounds really cool. Hoping for Catwoman, Huntress, Poison Ivy, and/or Batgirl.

    http://batman-news.com/2016/12/13/da...m-city-sirens/
    wait, is this really THAT good of news? just that, after what we got with Suicide Squad? I mean even looking at it like it wasn't even purely Ayer's fault, but still with it being WB and that similar area of property, I don't know that I trust them.
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    Old 12-14-2016, 03:55 AM   #310
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    wait, is this really THAT good of news? just that, after what we got with Suicide Squad? I mean even looking at it like it wasn't even purely Ayer's fault, but still with it being WB and that similar area of property, I don't know that I trust them.
    Yeah, it is. I love these characters so I'm excited at any opportunity I can to see them realized on the big screen.

    If they let Ayer have the SS he wanted we would have gotten a much better movie. I think in the Geoff Johns era of DCEU control we are going to have far less studio interference which will let the directors release the product they want released. I think Justice League will be the first movie that went start to finish in production under the Geoff Johns hands off system.
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    Was there any version of Suicide Squad that really had the Joker being important/relevant?

    I still liked Suicide Squad but it was definitely in spite of the Joker.
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    Old 12-14-2016, 05:36 AM   #312
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    Was there any version of Suicide Squad that really had the Joker being important/relevant?

    I still liked Suicide Squad but it was definitely in spite of the Joker.
    Hard to say. I know Ayer wanted to portray the relationship as being more abusive. There's proof from the final trailer that Joker shows up during the final fight with Enchantress, with his face scarred and he drops the grenade and disappears. The commonly accepted theory is that he came back to give Harley an ultimatum about staying with the Squad or escaping with him, but in her "liberating" moment she chose not to go.

    Of course, the ending to the movie that was released changes all that so it wouldn't make sense for them to have kept that in. Fairly confident the entire Joker/Harley relationship would have been more integral to the story and more detailed had Ayer gotten his way.
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    The extended version had a little more of him but still didn't add much imo. Like M. Steng said the ending was supposed to be different so maybe that could have been better.
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    Yeah there is a 3-4 minute extra scene of Joker and Harley, and then a few more random shots incorporated into his various scenes.

    I was pretty neutral on Joker. There were a few things he did that were strange, but there were also some things about him that I really liked. Making the relationship between he and Harley one based on love is pretty opposite to the comics, though, I think Ayer's original vision was much closer to something I would have wanted to see.
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    I was neutral on him as well. He wasn't great, he wasn't bad. He was just there. It was an interesting direction he went with that Joker but not a memorable one.
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    Yeah, it is. I love these characters so I'm excited at any opportunity I can to see them realized on the big screen.

    If they let Ayer have the SS he wanted we would have gotten a much better movie.
    well okay first of all, let me ask you this: do you believe that the Extended Cut is pretty much Ayer's fully intended vision? or was even that falling short of this possible greatness he'd originally had in mind.
    Because, and I think I've already said this elsewhere, there's no question for me the extended edition was an improvement over the theatrical cut, but even that was STILL riddled with problems. It was just not a very good movie. It was so clearly influenced on the Guardians Of The Galaxy's huge success, I mean at least the fact that it got fasttracked within the studio as quickly as it did. But that's something that James Gunn had been deeply and personally committed to for quite awhile beforehand. I'm not saying that David Ayer was like strictly a hired gun or anything, but it just didn't seem like much comparable situations, him on SS to Gunn on Guardians.

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    and also, forgive me but you've got me a bit confused here with your wording. I thought the whole concept of Geoff Johns coming into the fold for pretty much everything DCU related (being the "DC's Kevin Feige") was supposed to be a good, encouraging thing. If I remember correctly, he was officially appointed as such not long after BvS had been out for at least a week or two and its reception was pretty clear. but then you're saying about Justice League being the first movie where Johns will be "hands off", that he won't be involved all that much and you sound like that's a good thing.
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    To the extent that I'm able to decipher your post, no, the Extended Cut probably still isn't close to the movie Ayer wanted to release.

    Geoff Johns is good. His being involved means the studio will be hands off and let the directors do their thing.
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    Looks like Megan Fox could be Poison Ivy: http://comicbook.com/2016/12/14/rumo...gotham-city-s/
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    You know what was awful? Batman vs Super man. We talk about thatbhere or does that partial birth abortion have its own thread.
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    BvS was great, not as good as MoS but still great
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    BvS was a top 5 superhero movie of all time for me, if you're a fan of comic books I can't see how you wouldn't like it.

    It was a little gloomy, a little dark, I can see why it might offend some peoples' sensibilities. Had the studio not hacked Snyder's original vision to pieces and released it as the theatrical cut, and just released his intended vision, I think it would have went over much better with the general audience.
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    Had the studio not hacked Snyder's original vision to pieces and released it as the theatrical cut, and just released his intended vision, I think it would have went over much better with the general audience.
    That is being said way too much.
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    I mean, it's true. Look at how much crucial information they cut from the theatrical release. The whole Africa subplot made 1000x more sense in the Ultimate Edition. Lex's motivations and machinations were much more fleshed out. Superman exploring the Bat in Gotham fueling his distrust made the battle make more sense.

    WB should have just sucked up the potential up front loss of a 3-hour movie and relied on positive buzz to compensate for the reduced amount of showings.
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    Damn HBO not showing extended cut.....would have given it a second chance
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    I mean, it's true. Look at how much crucial information they cut from the theatrical release. The whole Africa subplot made 1000x more sense in the Ultimate Edition. Lex's motivations and machinations were much more fleshed out. Superman exploring the Bat in Gotham fueling his distrust made the battle make more sense.

    WB should have just sucked up the potential up front loss of a 3-hour movie and relied on positive buzz to compensate for the reduced amount of showings.
    I mean... the extended cut was better... and I would say it borderline made Acts 1 and 2 completely coherent and good. But the whole thing still falls apart for me at the end. Here's what I posted after seeing the extended cut:

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    I think I'm still just frustrated with the depiction of Luthor, and how his plan just made no sense. In a way, the added scenes of Clark investigating Batman make me even more frustrated, because those scenes set up a legitimate conflict and a legitimate reason for Superman to feel like Batman could be a threat. But at the end of the day, after setting up a conflict, the ultimate reason they fight is because Lex kidnapped Martha. I guess just because he wanted that Martha line in the movie. The whole "I want Batman and Superman to fight" being a major goal of Lex's just made no sense to me. And yes, I heard the dialogue about how god can't be all powerful and all good and how Superman fighting Batman would prove that, but I just think that that's dumb. The movie would have worked a lot better if Luthor was scheming to make Superman look like a threat in order to get some sort of government contract with weaponizing the kryptonite, and Batman and Superman coming into conflict was just a side result of Luthor's scheming, but not the ultimate goal. Even if they wanted a massive villain at the end for the team-up, Doomsday could have been created more accidentally as Lex experimented on the ship, rather than whatever the fuck they were doing with the blood and Doomsday being Lex's ultimate back-up plan or whatever nonsense they were spouting.
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    Movie was awful. Was trapped on a plane and it was the movie of choice. I gave up after twenty minutes and read a book.
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    Watched the Suicide Squad extended cut. Did not think it improved the story at all. Unlike BvS, I think it made it worse.
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    Arrow, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl - all renewed at CW!

    And there's an animated Constantine coming.

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    I've fallen so far behind on the CW DC shows that I don't know if I can ever catch up. Arrow completely shit the bed after Season 2 and Flash seemed like it was going down a similar path from what I saw of the beginning of Season 3. Legends of Tomorrow was laughably bad in the beginning of Season 1 and I never got around to finishing it. Never even considered watching a second of Supergirl.
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    I've fallen so far behind on the CW DC shows that I don't know if I can ever catch up. Arrow completely shit the bed after Season 2 and Flash seemed like it was going down a similar path from what I saw of the beginning of Season 3. Legends of Tomorrow was laughably bad in the beginning of Season 1 and I never got around to finishing it. Never even considered watching a second of Supergirl.
    Once again we're aligned.

    I loved Arrow S1-2, and nothing since then has really invoked a desire to continue.
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