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[RSSR]

That was super quick how people found out track lengths within a few hours of WATM being officially announced. I've never heard of Qobuz until yesterday.

[Dagwin]

Originally Posted by RSSR

That was super quick how people found out track lengths within a few hours of WATM being officially announced. I've never heard of Qobuz until yesterday.

Someone was saying they've seen other new albums on that site before with track times that proved real when the albums dropped, so it seems legit.

[Hahninator]

I wonder what happened to the other titles.

Bruce said Revolution was completely dropped from the album. I wonder if Run to the Fire was renamed or it was also dropped.

Something to Tell My Baby and Break Free were added. That's pretty crazy to me that the album didn't come out in 2021 if those are the changes lol - Break Free is an old song and STTMB is a short Dave solo track. And the album already has Singing from the Windows.

You're telling me (the band is telling me) STTMB and Break Free are better than Revolution and another song that got dropped from the album, which are possibly full band songs?

[Dagwin]

Originally Posted by Hahninator

I wonder what happened to the other titles.

Bruce said Revolution was completely dropped from the album. I wonder if Run to the Fire was renamed or it was also dropped.

Something to Tell My Baby and Break Free were added. That's pretty crazy to me that the album didn't come out in 2021 if those are the changes lol - Break Free is an old song and STTMB is a short Dave solo track. And the album already has Singing from the Windows.

You're telling me (the band is telling me) STTMB and Break Free are better than Revolution and another song that got dropped from the album, which are possibly full band songs?

According to Dave, they are. But we all know Dave likes lullaby songs more than anything these days.

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by Hahninator

I wonder what happened to the other titles.

Bruce said Revolution was completely dropped from the album. I wonder if Run to the Fire was renamed or it was also dropped.

Something to Tell My Baby and Break Free were added. That's pretty crazy to me that the album didn't come out in 2021 if those are the changes lol - Break Free is an old song and STTMB is a short Dave solo track. And the album already has Singing from the Windows.

You're telling me (the band is telling me) STTMB and Break Free are better than Revolution and another song that got dropped from the album, which are possibly full band songs?

RTTF was not renamed

[seanbrutus]

Seems like it'll be a two part album in its sequencing with a small acoustic song to close out each side. I'm ok with that. I do hope there is more material out there that comes as well down the line.

[mrcourt123]

Originally Posted by Dagwin

Someone was saying they've seen other new albums on that site before with track times that proved real when the albums dropped, so it seems legit.

I was curious whether the Qobuz track times were legit or possibly just placeholders, so I reached out to their customer support. Here is what they said: "Thanks for contacting Qobuz support. I'm glad you got in touch. These times are provided directly from the record label and are accurate. Track listings are subject to change without notice."

[Dannyyankou]

Originally Posted by seanbrutus

My guess with the time listed for SFTW is that they cut the last refrain and it ends with "they won't stop" instead of doing the chorus one last time. All the live versions I've heard are at least :30 longer than the theoretical track time.

Most versions seem like they're around 3:10. If it's 2:58 on the album, I'm guessing he just plays it a little quicker.

[Tomacco]

I'm hoping to be surprised by a full band SFTW, but not expecting it.

[alec]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

Most versions seem like they're around 3:10. If it's 2:58 on the album, I'm guessing he just plays it a little quicker.

My guess is that he goes straight into singing instead of playing the riff a few times first. I just listened to one of the pandemic versions he did and the instrument intro is 12seconds before vocals come in.

[MiniDingo]

Originally Posted by mrcourt123

I was curious whether the Qobuz track times were legit or possibly just placeholders, so I reached out to their customer support. Here is what they said: "Thanks for contacting Qobuz support. I'm glad you got in touch. These times are provided directly from the record label and are accurate. Track listings are subject to change without notice."

Nice to get a confirmation on that - thanks for doing the legwork.

[alec]

Originally Posted by mrcourt123

I was curious whether the Qobuz track times were legit or possibly just placeholders, so I reached out to their customer support. Here is what they said: "Thanks for contacting Qobuz support. I'm glad you got in touch. These times are provided directly from the record label and are accurate. Track listings are subject to change without notice."

Nice work. Also, bummer that the track times are real. I don’t need 6+ minute songs but half the songs being under 3mins or just above 3mins has me significantly less excited. Oh well.

[Dagwin]

Crash shortest song is SMTS at 4:07

BTCS shortest is Halloween at 5:07 (aside from PNP, which is an intro)

LWS shortest is Kit Kat Jam at 4:00


WATM has 8 tracks under 4 min. (5 of which are under 3 min.)

I don't care what anyone says, DMB doesn't do their best work in under 3 minutes.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by alec

Nice work. Also, bummer that the track times are real. I don’t need 6+ minute songs but half the songs being under 3mins or just above 3mins has me significantly less excited. Oh well.

You'd be amazed at how many emotions you can experience in <180 seconds I swear!

[Dagwin]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

You'd be amazed at how many emotions you can experience in <180 seconds I swear!

Not from a song... But I know what you mean by that.

[Route_2]

https://www.complex.com/pigeons-and-...nder-2-minutes

[alec]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

You'd be amazed at how many emotions you can experience in <180 seconds I swear!

Haha! I am going to hold out hope that all the sub 3min songs we have not heard yet are 300bpm, fully structured epics.

[madhatter]

Originally Posted by Hahninator

I wonder what happened to the other titles.

Bruce said Revolution was completely dropped from the album. I wonder if Run to the Fire was renamed or it was also dropped.

Something to Tell My Baby and Break Free were added. That's pretty crazy to me that the album didn't come out in 2021 if those are the changes lol - Break Free is an old song and STTMB is a short Dave solo track. And the album already has Singing from the Windows.

You're telling me (the band is telling me) STTMB and Break Free are better than Revolution and another song that got dropped from the album, which are possibly full band songs?

Could less about being "better" and more about "better fit for the album as a whole".

[blumathu]

Starting to wonder if the short album length (so it's a Single LP and cheaper) and vinyl variants are all a trick to increase album sales.

[MiniDingo]

Originally Posted by Dagwin

I don't care what anyone says, DMB doesn't do their best work in under 3 minutes.

Old DMB doesn't - who knows about this newest version of DMB.

It's taken me a long time (longer than it probably should've) to realize that this isn't the "DMB" that I've had in my head the last 29 years. For the lack of a better word, I've been in "denial". It sounds dumb or dramatic, but it's true.

(this isn't a negative post - I'm not sh*tting on the band at ALL)

There have been lots of these type of posts before, but it really clicked with me the last few days - those days of Dave and band are long gone. The main players of the jammed out solos on studio albums have either left the band or are no longer living.

There's always talk of how the band has evolved into DMB 3.0, 4.0, blah, blah blah...only for people to get upset when they aren't producing material that lives up to the original "DMB".

They can still jam out at live shows - they're all amazing musicians - but that isn't what they "are" anymore as a band at their core. As 2023 DMB. Instead of creating 6-8 minute songs that ebb and flow on an album, they do something more like we're going to hear on 5/19...and like we've been hearing the last album or so.

This is what they are now. Once you accept that and stop trying to rewind time to the glory days of DMB, you start to really appreciate things and get excited for new things that this band produces.

Just my 2 cents.

[madhatter]

Originally Posted by Dagwin

I don't care what anyone says, DMB doesn't do their best work in under 3 minutes.

...so far.

No one here knows what these tracks will sound like. For all we know, these songs could be some of their best.

The one song that we have heard the studio cut of is fantastic. I don't know that it's fair to judge the rest of them simply because they're shorter than we would prefer.

[BTBaboon]

I just want to know what the band spent their time doing during all of these extra studio sessions for "finishing touches" that pushed the album out endlessly (and still, 4 more months to go...)

To come out of all of those extra sessions post-2021 summer tour and have only STTMB and the 5 yet-to-be-debuted songs totaling just 16 minutes to show for all of it? Are the creative juices running that low?

[dmbdreamingtree]

Originally Posted by Dagwin

Crash shortest song is SMTS at 4:07

BTCS shortest is Halloween at 5:07 (aside from PNP, which is an intro)

LWS shortest is Kit Kat Jam at 4:00


WATM has 8 tracks under 4 min. (5 of which are under 3 min.)

I don't care what anyone says, DMB doesn't do their best work in under 3 minutes.

The best sound DMB has produced comes off of BTCS in their segues between songs. It isn't about length. To many, DMB hasn't done their best work for a while now. That is the rate limiting step. Not the track length.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by blumathu

Starting to wonder if the short album length (so it's a Single LP and cheaper) and vinyl variants are all a trick to increase album sales.

Just wait until they find this one weird trick that the music industry HATES!

(The trick is to make good music)

[MiniDingo]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

I just want to know what the band spent their time doing during all of these extra studio sessions for "finishing touches" that pushed the album out endlessly (and still, 4 more months to go...)

To come out of all of those extra sessions post-2021 summer tour and have only STTMB and the 5 yet-to-be-debuted songs totaling just 16 minutes to show for all of it? Are the creative juices running that low?

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me to see them release a quick follow-up album next year or something - for that exact reason. They were doing lots of stuff, but not a whole lot to show for it - so far.

[Alpine416]

Originally Posted by MiniDingo

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me to see them release a quick follow-up album next year or something - for that exact reason. They were doing lots of stuff, but not a whole lot to show for it - so far.

I'll take things that definitely won't happen for $1,000 Trebek

[MiniDingo]

Originally Posted by Alpine416

I'll take things that definitely won't happen for $1,000 Trebek

LOL, ya probably...but not totally out of the question.

Sounds like a quick follow-up to CT was in the works, but between the Batson leaks and covid, it derailed those plans.

[DaveHead77]

Originally Posted by hopewelljones

First post, 21 years after making the account. Fucking awesome

Kind of ironic you say that as you’ve made 711 posts without seeing a single DMB show! lol

[Route_2]

what if every tour was an album tour?

[bigeyedpigs]

I think it's important to manage expectations with this album, especially after seeing the track list, the length and the songs that are already known from being played live. People that are expecting another album on par with btcs or any other of the earlier albums may very well be disappointed. This is not the same band. Rashawn's musical direction is much different then Roi and Dave's song writing is not what it was in the past. There's very little imagery in his writing at this point and it's pretty straight forward. If I had to guess this album is going to feel like a mixture of the last two albums. Perhaps sonically similar to aftw and lyrically a mix of both.