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Old 04-28-2019, 01:32 PM   #301
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We already have a studio Granny and JTR. I doubt they would re-record these. JTR would have a better chance since it was only on The Lillywhite Sessions.
I wasn't counting tLWS since it wasn't official and what am I missing on Granny, when was that released?
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    I wasn't counting tLWS since it wasn't official and what am I missing on Granny, when was that released?
    Yeah man, they finally officially released it in 2014 with the expanded edition of Under the Table and Dreaming! It’s availabe on all the streaming sites as a bonus track on UTTAD, great stuff
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    Old 04-28-2019, 02:00 PM   #303
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    Yeah man, they finally officially released it in 2014 with the expanded edition of Under the Table and Dreaming! It’s availabe on all the streaming sites as a bonus track on UTTAD, great stuff
    Ha never knew that, I'll have to check it out, thanks!
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    Old 04-29-2019, 05:31 AM   #304
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    Ha never knew that, I'll have to check it out, thanks!
    Well worth a listen! They added like a marimba or xylophone-type instrument. Sounds really cool.

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    Old 04-29-2019, 07:20 AM   #305
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    Well worth a listen! They added like a marimba or xylophone-type instrument. Sounds really cool.

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    Listened, great stuff and I like that acoustic version of Dancing Nancies too!
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    It is cool that we finally got the studio Granny. It’s interesting listening to that version and think that Dave and the band thought that would be their big hit. I believe the comment was that he imagined folks on the street saying “LOVE! BABY!” and whatnot haha.

    It’s a great version, but compared to the live beast it has become over the past 25 years, it seems rather tame. A similar situation to DDTW studio vs. live.
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    I think it would have been the best song off Come Tomorrow by far. Would love to see them bring it back this year.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 06:19 AM   #308
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    Since we are not getting this on the album, is there a best version out there on youtube? I've been listening to it's debut mostly.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 06:39 AM   #309
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    Since we are not getting this on the album, is there a best version out there on youtube? I've been listening to it's debut mostly.
    I've listened to a lot of Bismarck, and they debut is pretty freakin awesome. There's also a Dave and Tim version from Farm Aid that is really good.
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    Listened, great stuff and I like that acoustic version of Dancing Nancies too!
    The acoustic Nancies is so damn good
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    Old 01-25-2023, 06:49 AM   #311
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    This is the one I listen to

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=biji3jFcalU
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    Old 01-25-2023, 06:54 AM   #312
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    This is the one I listen to

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=biji3jFcalU
    Why is it that the debut versions are often times the best version of the new songs?
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    Old 01-25-2023, 07:11 AM   #313
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    What an awesome song.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 07:16 AM   #314
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    very disappointing this didn't make the cut
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    Old 01-25-2023, 07:25 AM   #315
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    Yeah man, they finally officially released it in 2014 with the expanded edition of Under the Table and Dreaming! It’s availabe on all the streaming sites as a bonus track on UTTAD, great stuff
    I completely forgot about that. Haven’t listened to this since it came out. Going to listen now.
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    Looks like this is another fan-loved, band-disliked, song that will be shelved into perpetuity.

    Maybe a bonus track on the Come Tomorrow 25th anniversary release in 2043.
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    Best version is 5.14.16 in Dallas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEK8Di9sZQ
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    Why is it that the debut versions are often times the best version of the new songs?
    Could ask same thing about their album track selection. Seems Lillywhite is only guy close to this band that understands at what point the song is done and to stop tinkering. Even he went overboard a few times (Halloween, Stay adding the LL)

    -Sugar Will 2004 is the tits

    -Shotgun debut is one of the most haunting things I've ever heard. Too bad this under 3 minute Dave wasn't around then to keep it at that. Once they added the royal horns and tried to make it Bartender part Deux it was over for that tune.

    -Idea of You was better in its original form

    - Good Good Time at Bonnaroo with original riff

    - Captain before it became a porn song


    I mean I don't need to list them all for everyone. You all know.

    To answer your question though I think it loses its original inspiration when they overanalyze it. It's why I personally love TGIY. You can still hear the joy of the original inspiration as flawed as the vocal technically is. Its real though.

    Dave also tries to outwit himself lyrically (Sugar Will) way too much these days.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 09:02 AM   #319
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    Could ask same thing about their album track selection. Seems Lillywhite is only guy close to this band that understands at what point the song is done and to stop tinkering. Even he went overboard a few times (Halloween, Stay adding the LL)

    -Sugar Will 2004 is the tits

    -Shotgun debut is one of the most haunting things I've ever heard. Too bad this under 3 minute Dave wasn't around then to keep it at that. Once they added the royal horns and tried to make it Bartender part Deux it was over for that tune.

    -Idea of You was better in its original form

    - Good Good Time at Bonnaroo with original riff

    - Captain before it became a porn song


    I mean I don't need to list them all for everyone. You all know.

    To answer your question though I think it loses its original inspiration when they overanalyze it. It's why I personally love TGIY. You can still hear the joy of the original inspiration as flawed as the vocal technically is. Its real though.

    Dave also tries to outwit himself lyrically (Sugar Will) way too much these days.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 09:10 AM   #320
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    Best version is 5.14.16 in Dallas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEK8Di9sZQ
    Yes, this is the right answer.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 09:13 AM   #321
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    Will be interesting to see if he plays it in Mexico again with Tim.
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    This song is so good. I can't understand for the life of me why it's not on an album.
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    This song is so good. I can't understand for the life of me why it's not on an album.
    Because Dave has the worst taste in his own music
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    Because Dave has the worst taste in his own music
    This is the truth for a lot of artists
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    Bismarck might be my favorite DMB song from the past 10 years
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    Gonna definitely make a point to ask about this song this year. Amazing song that needs a studio recording
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    that debut version is just on point, man we need this song in the studio
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    Bismarck might be my favorite DMB song from the past 10 years
    Mine too! If Bismarck and Break For It were on the new album, it would be a game changer
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    Gonna definitely make a point to ask about this song this year. Amazing song that needs a studio recording
    I'm sure it has many.

    It just needs to be released. It's likely been worked on across 3 studio sessions now.
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    Old 01-27-2023, 11:17 AM   #330
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    And if they're not going to release it via studio, at least give us a fully mixed show with it. It has 0 official live releases to date.

    It's one of the best songs they've had since Roi passed, maybe longer, and it's pretty much being withheld from the fans. Insanity.

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