2021 Tour Rumors/Status

[SoCalDMBLover]

Originally Posted by donvito72

Where do you find the courage to continue with this struggle you're entrenched in?

I don't know, where do the people who have thought that shows would happen since last summer get their courage?


I guess I prefer to view the reality that exists and has existed since March 2020. Perhaps if others had done likewise, we would be in a better position today, and could be looking forward to shows this summer.


It's been a mighty struggle, hoping that the tickets I have to 5 shows go unused for another year, even though I paid for them in February 2020. I guess my struggle is paying off, and the management of all these bands and performers postponing to 2022 are listening to people like me.

[dontdrink36]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKlIaoxaKA

Came across this. According to science Sars-Cov-2, and the variants, doesn't transmit outdoors. Based on this science we should allow outdoor concerts to resume immediately.


Disclaimer: This post isn't intended for political debate and is relevant to the thread's topic.

[donvito72]

Originally Posted by SoCalDMBLover

I don't know, where do the people who have thought that shows would happen since last summer get their courage?

To be fair, we're not inundated with their melancholy woe-is-me martyrdom every few days or so. Every post seems like it's made with slumped shoulders and a mighty dose of Dashboard Confessional playing at a benign volume in the background.

[Dannyyankou]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKlIaoxaKA

Came across this. According to science Sars-Cov-2, and the variants, doesn't transmit outdoors. Based on this science we should allow outdoor concerts to resume immediately.


Disclaimer: This post isn't intended for political debate and is relevant to the thread's topic.

It doesn’t surprise me in the slightest, when the weather got hot last year and people went outside, the virus virtually disappeared in New York.

[amberleigh]

So what's the consensus.... 2 weeks before we hear anything?????Tuesday the 4th....

[Foreverford05]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKlIaoxaKA

Came across this. According to science Sars-Cov-2, and the variants, doesn't transmit outdoors. Based on this science we should allow outdoor concerts to resume immediately.


Disclaimer: This post isn't intended for political debate and is relevant to the thread's topic.

Great news for tailgating at least.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

It doesn’t surprise me in the slightest, when the weather got hot last year and people went outside, the virus virtually disappeared in New York.

Originally Posted by Foreverford05

Great news for tailgating at least.

To me this shows there is absolutely no reason not to allow outdoor concerts/sports etc moving forward. Require a mask if the state/venue/act wants and lets party outdoors.

[SoCalDMBLover]

Originally Posted by donvito72

To be fair, we're not inundated with their melancholy woe-is-me martyrdom every few days or so. Every post seems like it's made with slumped shoulders and a mighty dose of Dashboard Confessional playing at a benign volume in the background.

Well, I suppose it's all the people who act like since things are starting to get better, that now is the time that we can start going about life like we did in 2019, meaning 20,000 people attending a concert, several hundred packed together into a sold out Pit. I see several just this morning about how there's no reason not to have shows.


Mind you, some of these people probably think we could have had shows yesterday, or last summer even. We're not there yet. Are we getting there? Yes, I believe hope for future shows is not lost. Even perhaps shows in 2021. But July? August? September? I have my doubts, and I'm expressing them.

[42km]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Via anonymous, Bank of NH Pavilion is trying to keep shows in July, but tentatively are scheduling August 10th-11th as reschedule dates if they have to push their dates.

Thanks for the intel Chad!

It only took 48 pages of over 1400 posts to get a solid bit of insight re status.

You would think that “the band “, their management and or the promoters would have had the decency to provide some sort of update re status by now??

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by 42km

Thanks for the intel Chad!

It only took 48 pages of over 1400 posts to get a solid bit of insight re status.

You would think that “the band “, their management and or the promoters would have had the decency to provide some sort of update re status by now??

to be fair, someone else posted pretty much the same bit of news regarding Bank of NH Pavilion a couple weeks ago

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by Hahninator

Chris Stapleton has announced full capacity shows on tour in big amphitheaters and arenas beginning July 17, 2021.

That show is also in Chicago at Wrigley Field. Literally skipping sheds and arenas and going full blown stadium show.

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

That show is also in Chicago at Wrigley Field. Literally skipping sheds and arenas and going full blown stadium show.

I mean so many acts are doing different things. It’s so confusing. Oh well at least I got to enjoy come college baseball at full capacity yesterday

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

That show is also in Chicago at Wrigley Field. Literally skipping sheds and arenas and going full blown stadium show.

Good

[zjg135]

The Lumineers just pushed everything to 2022, FWIW. A lot of indoors, but Gorge and Coors Field on their too.

[dontdrink36]

Sounds like DMB really wants to play as much of the tour as scheduled as possible. That is the likely reason for no announcement. They will wait till the absolute last moment to change the tour in hopes of not changing it.

[greyson1289]

Yeah if a major artist cancels indoor venue tours I am not as concerned.

DMB - just a waiting game at this point but yeah first two weeks of May we should hear something.

[Bmwm3oz]

Has anyone heard of any successful litigation against TM for holding onto ticket holders funds for an extended period of time without providing a product?

I mean, I, like many others, have over a thousand dollars tied up at TM for tickets I bought in April of 2020. It’s a year later, and I haven’t received any goods for that money. If they postpone/reschedule again, at what point does TM owe some responsibility of returning funds? I mean, they’re literally collecting interest on our cash.

I’m not THAT upset about it, but it’s seems pretty illegal. I do know some states have forced TM to give money back for rescheduled events, but our state AG hasn’t bothered that I know of.

[Glenn438]

Between variants...vaccine effectiveness..boosters.

Do we really expect shows in 2022 let alone 2021?

2023 seems like the most likely time to resume shows again.

[Mateo2k]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Has anyone heard of any successful litigation against TM for holding onto ticket holders funds for an extended period of time without providing a product?

I mean, I, like many others, have over a thousand dollars tied up at TM for tickets I bought in April of 2020. It’s a year later, and I haven’t received any goods for that money. If they postpone/reschedule again, at what point does TM owe some responsibility of returning funds? I mean, they’re literally collecting interest on our cash.

I’m not THAT upset about it, but it’s seems pretty illegal. I do know some states have forced TM to give money back for rescheduled events, but our state AG hasn’t bothered that I know of.

Most tours offered refunds. What your didn’t offer you a refund?

[somuchtoplay]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Has anyone heard of any successful litigation against TM for holding onto ticket holders funds for an extended period of time without providing a product?

I mean, I, like many others, have over a thousand dollars tied up at TM for tickets I bought in April of 2020. It’s a year later, and I haven’t received any goods for that money. If they postpone/reschedule again, at what point does TM owe some responsibility of returning funds? I mean, they’re literally collecting interest on our cash.

I’m not THAT upset about it, but it’s seems pretty illegal. I do know some states have forced TM to give money back for rescheduled events, but our state AG hasn’t bothered that I know of.

Aren't they offering refunds every time they change the date? If you are choosing to roll it over, I'm not sure what the issue is. I have 4 shows that i kept and like 5 shows that I took the money back. I will not be buying anything new until i have confidence that it may happen as scheduled though.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by somuchtoplay

Aren't they offering refunds every time they change the date? If you are choosing to roll it over, I'm not sure what the issue is. I have 4 shows that i kept and like 5 shows that I took the money back. I will not be buying anything new until i have confidence that it may happen as scheduled though.

It varies by state. In my state, they will not issue refunds for ‘rescheduled’ events. The only issue refunds for cancelled events.

I think most states are like mine (WA). You must be in a state where your state officials forced TM to refund if rescheduled.


Edit: TM website says refunds are based on the event. I can’t get a refund for DMB at Gorge. So it must be specific to DMB at gorge. I know states can overrule this like Arizona did.

[greyson1289]

Originally Posted by Glenn438

Between variants...vaccine effectiveness..boosters.

Do we really expect shows in 2022 let alone 2021?

2023 seems like the most likely time to resume shows again.

[somuchtoplay]

Originally Posted by Glenn438

Between variants...vaccine effectiveness..boosters.

Do we really expect shows in 2022 let alone 2021?

2023 seems like the most likely time to resume shows again.

Maybe without masks, 2023 is most logical. Money is starting to win though and people are getting tired of waiting. People can still choose to stay home even when the mandates are lifted. Bands can choose not to play moving forward, but i think there will be shows, whether it's DMB or someone else.

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by Glenn438

Between variants...vaccine effectiveness..boosters.

Do we really expect shows in 2022 let alone 2021?

2023 seems like the most likely time to resume shows again.

Stop it

[podiumboy]

Originally Posted by Glenn438

Between variants...vaccine effectiveness..boosters.

Do we really expect shows in 2022 let alone 2021?

2023 seems like the most likely time to resume shows again.

I believe many people are taking a “fuck it, we’re gonna play regardless” attitude. Which I agree with. But of course, 2021 shows can become 2022 shows pretty easily, so nothing is certain until the band walks on the stage.

If the CDC and Fauci had their way, there would be no shows. They aren’t economists or politicians who represent their constituents... their job is to inform the government on the matters of public health. Eventually, these shows will need to start happening, or money is gonna run out to bail them out.

[TypicalBilly14]

I don't know if this was posted, but Bank of NH Pavilion looks like they have a concert series at the lake in June and just added another performer. They wouldn't have added them unless they knew for sure it was a go.

2021 Eastern Propane Concert Series
We are excited to announce that Brantley Gilbert will be spending 2 special, socially-distanced nights with us at Lake Winnipesaukee! Introducing special guest Tyler Braden who should not be missed. All part of the 2021 Eastern Propane Concert Series -- June 25 & 26! Presages are starting soon!

https://www.banknhpavilion.com

Woop!

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by Glenn438

Between variants...vaccine effectiveness..boosters.

Do we really expect shows in 2022 let alone 2021?

2023 seems like the most likely time to resume shows again.

Nah. Shows will be back this fall at the latest. Postponing to next is based on hesitancy and avoiding the headache of the potential to be forced to reschedule again. Some states (likely red states) will be open in full swing by Memorial Day. While others are probably going to take longer to allow events of size to occur.

Money and fatigue are going to win this race. Should we probably wait until 2022? Yeah, it'd probably be the wisest thing but we don't care. Money talks.

[DMB24Illini]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Just need to require vaccine cards for shows and we’ll be good to go.

People use old wristbands to sneak into the pit at shows....can't wait for fake vaccine cards to start circulating so the DMB Family can get their Dave fix.

[dmbclstj2]

Mentioned this in a different thread, but considering they haven't put the new 2021 shows on sale yet, is a good indicator of where management is on the status of the Summer shows. There most likely won't be any but I still think there is a good shot at the September/October shows happening plus maybe a Winter tour.

[DMB24Illini]

Originally Posted by 42km

You would think that “the band “, their management and or the promoters would have had the decency to provide some sort of update re status by now??

What exactly would you like the band to do? Let you know about all their contingency plans, all but one of which won't actually happen? There's literally no reason for them to give an update, even a "we're waiting to see what happens" update. They haven't even put the June Camden shows on sale yet, so everyone knows we're in a "wait and see" mode, so maybe....just....wait and see?

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Has anyone heard of any successful litigation against TM for holding onto ticket holders funds for an extended period of time without providing a product?

I mean, I, like many others, have over a thousand dollars tied up at TM for tickets I bought in April of 2020. It’s a year later, and I haven’t received any goods for that money. If they postpone/reschedule again, at what point does TM owe some responsibility of returning funds? I mean, they’re literally collecting interest on our cash.

I’m not THAT upset about it, but it’s seems pretty illegal. I do know some states have forced TM to give money back for rescheduled events, but our state AG hasn’t bothered that I know of.

Ticketmaster gave options for all postponed shows to get a refund or hold onto your tickets. If you held onto your tickets, you gave up your right to get money back from Ticketmaster if those shows happen as rescheduled. You haven't received your "goods" because we're in the middle of a pandemic. Let's be reasonable and pragmatic.

If things are postponed/rescheduled again, you'll have that same option to refund or hold onto them. What exactly would you be suing TM for when they give/gave you the option to get your money back?