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Originally Posted by *loverulesme*
I'm conservative. I support Trump. I'm a DMB and Dave fan and have been for decades.
We have a very recent (last few years) problem in our society in that we used to be able to agree to disagree and move on to find common ground. That was the norm.
That's not the norm now. Now, if you disagree with someone politically, then the relationship is often over. That's very unfortunate.
I'm for finding common ground.
With that said, being a long-term DMB and Dave fan means you're going to get A LOT of his political views. Does my dentist shove political views down my throat? No, my dentist cleans my teeth, and I pay for that. Does a clerk at my local grocery store shove his or her politics down my throat? No, the clerk rings up my groceries, and I pay for them. We say, "Have a good day" to each other.
For whatever reason, celebrities think they need to "endorse" candidates...Barbra Streisand, Cher, Rosie O'Donnell, Dave Matthews, Bette Midler, Kanye West, Scott Baio, Roseanne Barr, etc, think it's their duty to "use their platform" to get us to vote a certain way. How have they come to that conclusion? I don't know.
I'm impressed with artists for their art, not for their political expertise or views.
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I agree that we've lost the ability to find middle ground and that is extremely unfortunate. I apologize for you feeling that way cause i've been struggling with that as well lately.
That being said, I don't think Trump is a conservative by any means or even represents what a true conservative thinks. All his tenure seems to have accomplished is the normality of hateful/racist speech and a bungled pandemic response that has killed the equivalent of a 9/11 a day for over 50 days. He promotes gossip over facts and science, and his administration (and by proxy the Republican party) is actively trying to rig elections (Kemp here in GA and Trump on a national level) and deflect responsibility for clear crimes that he has committed that are in direct violation of his oath of office.
I applaud your conservative values, as I share some myself, but I will be voting for Biden in this election even though I don't agree with his stance on many things. If Trump wins, I truly believe the next four years will mark the start of our "fall of Rome", so to speak. Trump has actively sewn division into our country since 2016, and I do believe his legacy will be a stain on this country and the Republican party's history.
So to bring it all back around, I believe that when people end conversations with right-leaning individuals and cut ties, they have simply reached a tipping point with the "great America" that trump has ushered in. I haven't stopped being stress for almost a year and a half now due to his policies and blatant racism and classism. It's well within their right to give up people who still support Trump, because unlike past elections, in their minds a vote for Trump is a vote for a fascist America ruled by the 1% and highest paying individuals, with laws tailored to their beliefs.
I refuse to give up on this country, but a vote for Trump in my mind is the least patriotic thing someone can do at this point. Unmarked vans are pulling protestors off the streets and writing in a condition of their release that they are unable to gather and protest again, denying them their 1st Amendment rights. Trump and his government are trying to stymy other voices being heard in the conversation, and have been undermining those voices for four straight years. I gave him his chance when he was elected, although I didn't vote for him. He's had the time to do what he needed to do, and what did he accomplish? Over 150,000 dead, a huge increase in our national debt, and a legacy of hate and violence.
When people cut others out of their lives for supporting Trump, I understand it now. I hope you'll understand it come November as well. Biden isn't the answer, he is the stopgap. But a Trump victory will mean an exodus of the smarter minds in the country, and it may not be today or tomorrow but the effect that will have on the U.S will be tremendous and felt for years, leading to the slow (or fast and violent) decline of this once beautiful nation. Just something to think about. I hope you are safe and well.