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Old 11-02-2018, 02:02 PM   #61
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    Are you Stefan? JustinK seems to think you're Stefan.
    Well, stink's a real wealth of knowledge and telling the truth. So....
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    Soul Planet is LOL bad
    3.0 Phish has had a rough go at new song...there's a lot of cringe..When you compare, I think DMB has the edge over the past three studio albums..

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    It's a very bad song, but yes, Phish is good at jamming.

    Will never understand why people compare the bands so much, they are so different.
    yeah theyre very different. Only crossover is some fans.

    I just wish dmb was more fun and cared about doing cool stuff for fans the way phish does.
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    Well, stink's a real wealth of knowledge and telling the truth. So....
    Evidently he has intimate knowledge about the Batson Sessions leak.
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    yeah theyre very different. Only crossover is some fans.

    I just wish dmb was more fun and cared about doing cool stuff for fans the way phish does.

    They do care, they just have a different style which doesn't line up with how some fans want them to be
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    Soul Planet is LOL bad
    Maybe, but it's become a solid jam vehicle and I'll stack it up against anything on Come Tomorrow easily.
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    They do care, they just have a different style which doesn't line up with how some fans want them to be


    Ummm...how many times does Dave literally have to say “I don’t care” for you to believe him?
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    Old 11-02-2018, 02:10 PM   #69
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    anything that's not the 15-20 songs i like by them.


    solid take. Well, at least you were honest
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    Old 11-02-2018, 02:12 PM   #70
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    yeah theyre very different. Only crossover is some fans.

    I just wish dmb was more fun and cared about doing cool stuff for fans the way phish does.
    Phish is at the top of the list, they do fun/goofy stuff and their fans love it. It's just not who DMB (and most bands) are. PJ does a pretty good job, maybe a few others, but compared to most bands DMB spoils us with cool releases, access to basically everything they've ever done, touring non-stop etc.

    They are just so different.
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    Wow another Phish discussion, how unique.
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    Old 11-02-2018, 02:13 PM   #72
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    Ummm...how many times does Dave literally have to say “I don’t care” for you to believe him?

    What has he said he doesn't care about?
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    They do care, they just have a different style which doesn't line up with how some fans want them to be
    what do they do? Have some guests on certain songs? Pull out a rarity once in a blue moon?


    Those are like the only things you could even claim.
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    Evidently he has intimate knowledge about the Batson Sessions leak.
    This is true. I still don't think that Hilly is Stefan, just a douchey troll.
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    Wow another Phish discussion, how unique.
    I think it's oddly enjoyable. Both bands are relevant to a lot of people here. The comparison is a bit of a stretch but clearly there's something to the discussion as it has popped up over and again for years
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    Old 11-02-2018, 02:16 PM   #76
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    Phish is at the top of the list, they do fun/goofy stuff and their fans love it. It's just not who DMB (and most bands) are. PJ does a pretty good job, maybe a few others, but compared to most bands DMB spoils us with cool releases, access to basically everything they've ever done, touring non-stop etc.

    They are just so different.
    Phish sells DL's of every show they've played since 2003. DMB is great with releases but they can still do better.
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    What has he said he doesn't care about?


    A lot. Most recently, what fans want/catering to his fans. He’s said he doesn’t care if people show up at his shows or not. Doesn’t care if people like songs or the albums bc he likes them. Etc etc.
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    Phish is at the top of the list, they do fun/goofy stuff and their fans love it. It's just not who DMB (and most bands) are. PJ does a pretty good job, maybe a few others, but compared to most bands DMB spoils us with cool releases, access to basically everything they've ever done, touring non-stop etc.

    They are just so different.
    I dont think comparing them to PJ and Phish in that aspect is unfair, they all came up around the same time and have massive followings with fans who travel.

    the band doesnt pick releases, so that doesnt count, and PJ & phish have their avenues of having a bunch of live music available to fans too.

    The only thing that DMB does that stands above the other two is constant touring. While yes it is great, I think its held them back creatively and has worn them down more than they should be.

    Id very much be for changing the way they tour.
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    Old 11-02-2018, 02:18 PM   #79
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    If hilly is stefan my opinion and respect for the guy would plummet. Its not him though.
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    Old 11-02-2018, 02:19 PM   #80
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    Phish sells DL's of every show they've played since 2003. DMB is great with releases but they can still do better.
    I'm admitting Phish and a very small group of other bands do it better. I think most DMB fans are plenty happy with the access they get to the music.

    Many people here pretend like they hate their fans and do nothing for them when that is very far from reality.
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    I dont think comparing them to PJ and Phish in that aspect is unfair, they all came up around the same time and have massive followings with fans who travel.

    the band doesnt pick releases, so that doesnt count, and PJ & phish have their avenues of having a bunch of live music available to fans too.

    The only thing that DMB does that stands above the other two is constant touring. While yes it is great, I think its held them back creatively and has worn them down more than they should be.

    Id very much be for changing the way they tour.
    Two bands that do it better than them (I'm sure a couple more) doesn't mean they do nothing or are bad is my point.
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    What has he said he doesn't care about?
    He's always saying that he's going to play what he wants because he likes it and doesn't give a fuck what "y'all" think - directly to the fanbase at shows, and they CHEER!
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    I'm admitting Phish and a very small group of other bands do it better. I think most DMB fans are plenty happy with the access they get to the music.

    Many people here pretend like they hate their fans and do nothing for them when that is very far from reality.
    I just don't really think DMB has given us access to virtually everything they've done, honestly. That was my only issue with your statement and why I brought up Phish having every show since 2003 available for purchase.
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    Two bands that do it better than them (I'm sure a couple more) doesn't mean they do nothing or are bad is my point.
    theres a hell of a lot more bands than two that do stuff on stage directly for fans.

    Thats what im talking about, stuff at the shows, not releases and external stuff handled by management. DMB has trended farther and farther away from that year by year. They continue to isolate fans that have been around longest in favor of doing the easy thing and playing for the casual crowd.

    Dave's comments are direct proof of that. He doesnt care what hardcore fans want at all. And to an extent that can be a good thing, but theres hardly any tangible appreciation outside of the random rare song or two, but really only if you go to a destination venue.
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    He's always saying that he's going to play what he wants because he likes it and doesn't give a fuck what "y'all" think - directly to the fanbase at shows, and they CHEER!

    Uh yeah he plays the songs he feels like playing, makes sense, especially from a performance standpoint
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    I just don't really think DMB has given us access to virtually everything they've done, honestly. That was my only issue with your statement and why I brought up Phish having every show since 2003 available for purchase.
    What are you hoping to hear that you can't listen to? Machead is the only thing I can think of.

    My only point is that DMB fans are pretty lucky generally speaking. There are examples of bands that do it better, but very limited examples.
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    A lot. Most recently, what fans want/catering to his fans. He’s said he doesn’t care if people show up at his shows or not. Doesn’t care if people like songs or the albums bc he likes them. Etc etc.

    Makes sense to me
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    Uh yeah he plays the songs he feels like playing, makes sense, especially from a performance standpoint
    It's going to make less sense when he keeps driving long time fans away because he won't play the songs they want to hear.
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    What are you hoping to hear that you can't listen to? Machead is the only thing I can think of.

    My only point is that DMB fans are pretty lucky generally speaking. There are examples of bands that do it better, but very limited examples.
    I'm not really arguing with you, but I do wish DMB had SBD recordings of every show for sale. I'd love to re-live my first show with a SBD copy. Same with a few others that I've been to. Tapes are great, but when some of the shows you went to have 20 to 16 year old tapes, they're not as up to par with what we have now.
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    It's going to make less sense when he keeps driving long time fans away because he won't play the songs they want to hear.

    You think this is a new thing about him not caring if people like what he does or not? It's a tough industry, plenty of people have hated what he does since day one. The only difference between him playing Bartender in 2002 vs Can't Stop in 2018 is the quality of music, not that he cares more or less about who he is playing for.
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