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fonzz41 03-04-2014 12:27 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Some Avs notes that I know very few will care about:

- Joe Sakic told LeBrun today that Ryan O'Reilly will not be moved at the deadline and that both sides have agreed to finish out the season and talk in the summer. Sakic said O'Reilly wants to stay, which seems to be consensus among reinvigorated Avs players right now.

- Sakic also said the team will not be shopping the rental market and will only make a deal if someone comes to them with an offer they can't pass up (i.e., a top 4 d-man)

- Paul Stastny told reporters today he definitely does not want to leave Avs and will take a hometown discount in contract negotiations over the summer in order to stay.

- From Avs reporter Adrian Dater: "Avs getting lots of calls from teams. Gonna be an interesting next 24 hours on Stastny"

Still think PA Parenteau is their most expendable player, but he has played great since the break. More and more, I like the idea of the Avs sticking with who they've got. Let them continue to grow together. The defense by committee approach has been much better than expected.

HallowBillies7 03-04-2014 12:31 PM

Bruins supposedly interested in Vanek? That'd be nice considering every time we play a team he's on he always ends up scoring.

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 12:31 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Stastny is talked about every year it seems. Why?

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 12:33 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HallowBillies7 (Post 15164483)
Bruins supposedly interested in Vanek? That'd be nice considering every time we play a team he's on he always ends up scoring.

Won't be shooting at you guys though. lol

lockman21 03-04-2014 12:34 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Rumor - Bickell and Oduya + picks for Ryan Kesler

Rebecca De Mornay 03-04-2014 12:35 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
didn't they sign Bickell to an extension yesterday?

fonzz41 03-04-2014 12:35 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15164486)
Stastny is talked about every year it seems. Why?

He's a serviceable player who can play in just about any situation. The last 2-3 seasons he hasn't played well (just like the rest of the Avs), so it was assumed a change in scenery might be needed. With his value still relatively high, he was the perfect trade bait for the Avs.

However, his play this year (just like the rest of the Avs) has been exceptional. His contract is up after this season, and while he's still set to do well, he's not expected to make as much as he was (unless the Flyers offer him a contract, that is), which makes him attractive to other clubs.

But with him being an important piece of the Avs puzzle and a key team leader, I think he stays and re-signs at a hometown discount. Only possibility he moves is if a top 4 d-man suddenly becomes available, and probably not a rental at that.

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 12:35 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164502)
Rumor - Bickell and Oduya + picks for Ryan Kesler

Gillis must have had a head injury.

lockman21 03-04-2014 12:37 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15164486)
Stastny is talked about every year it seems. Why?

Because his contract says he should be on the level of Toews/Kane/Sedins/etc.

lockman21 03-04-2014 12:40 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15164514)
didn't they sign Bickell to an extension yesterday?

Unfortunately for everyone not named Bryan Bickell (or Bryan Bickell's wife)...yes, yes they did. A lot of money this offseason because "he's like, so amazing in the playoffs" (once).

fonzz41 03-04-2014 12:41 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164502)
Rumor - Bickell and Oduya + picks for Ryan Kesler

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15164517)
Gillis must have had a head injury.

:thumbsup:thumbsup Those picks better be high.

High-priced contracts for middle-aged and middle-of-the-road players are exactly what the Canucks are trying to get rid of.

Rebecca De Mornay 03-04-2014 12:42 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164538)
Unfortunately for everyone not named Bryan Bickell (or Bryan Bickell's wife)...yes, yes they did. A lot of money this offseason because "he's like, so amazing in the playoffs" (once).

I still don't feel bad for you. :lol

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 12:43 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15164541)
:thumbsup:thumbsup Those picks better be high.

High-priced contracts for middle-aged and middle-of-the-road players are exactly what the Canucks are trying to get rid of.

To take on Bickell's contract and give a team in your own conference, a rival, Kesler, I'd want two 1st's for that. I just can't see it.

lockman21 03-04-2014 12:50 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15164546)
I still don't feel bad for you. :lol

I wouldn't either :lol

Just feel bad for the stitches I got in my chin the night the Hawks won the Cup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15164541)
:thumbsup:thumbsup Those picks better be high.

High-priced contracts for middle-aged and middle-of-the-road players are exactly what the Canucks are trying to get rid of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15164558)
To take on Bickell's contract and give a team in your own conference, a rival, Kesler, I'd want two 1st's for that. I just can't see it.

I don't either. Just sharing the rumor. It's from a place not much better than #CONFIRMED but it's that same crack cocaine we love come deadline time.

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164585)
I wouldn't either :lol

Just feel bad for the stitches I got in my chin the night the Hawks won the Cup.





I don't either. Just sharing the rumor. It's from a place not much better than #CONFIRMED but it's that same crack cocaine we love come deadline time.

No I love the shit. Even the crazy ones are fun to think about. I always wonder about the deals that were talked about, or even close, that didn't happen. Still wonder what the Wings offered to CBJ for Nash or what the first talks with Weber were.

Edit: Also loved hearing Keenan saying he had a 1 for 1 with Boston, Jumbo Joe for Lou, and the FLA owner said no since he'd be taking money back...for Joe FUCKING Thornton! I understand the business side for a small non-traditional market but how much better could that team have been?

swordo84 03-04-2014 01:01 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 15164213)
Oh I'm not pleased by the prospect. I like the young talent we have. Agree with the defense. Need some big help there

Just got it. Andrew MacDonald for a 2nd and 3rd. The Flyers will need to get him re-signed though.

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 15164621)
Just got it. Andrew McDonald for a 2nd and 3rd. The Flyers will need to get him re-signed though.

Isles didn't get the 1st they wanted. Two picks seems like a lot for him, but we'll see how he is with more talent around.

fonzz41 03-04-2014 01:03 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164585)
I don't either. Just sharing the rumor. It's from a place not much better than #CONFIRMED but it's that same crack cocaine we love come deadline time.

Totally. :thumbsup

fonzz41 03-04-2014 01:06 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15164629)
Isles didn't get the 1st they wanted. Two picks seems like a lot for him, but we'll see how he is with more talent around.

This is what I'm interested in seeing. Having watched him a bit, he's got everything you'd want in a mobile defensive defenseman. High hopes for him.

salrx95 03-04-2014 01:06 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15164629)
Isles didn't get the 1st they wanted. Two picks seems like a lot for him, but we'll see how he is with more talent around.

A 1st??? We were never going to get that. Was happy with a 2nd so even pleased with a 3rd too

Happy to hear ducks and bruins both in on vanek now. More the merrier.

salrx95 03-04-2014 01:08 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
If vanek not dealt by game time , they had better hold him out. With our luck , he'd get hurt.

JRS1386 03-04-2014 01:11 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
So with MacDonald coming to Philly does this mean Mezaros will be out the door to recoup some of those draft picks?

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 01:12 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 15164660)
So with MacDonald coming to Philly does this mean Mezaros will be out the door to recoup some of those draft picks?

Yeah, keep reading they have 9 D now. Someone will be gone soon.

fonzz41 03-04-2014 01:12 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15164643)
A 1st??? We were never going to get that. Was happy with a 2nd so even pleased with a 3rd too

Happy to hear ducks and bruins both in on vanek now. More the merrier.

2nd, 3rd, and a prospect is actually a steal for Snow in this trade. :thumbsup

Holmgren gonna Holmgren. Will probably all work out for Philly if they can re-sign him. He'll probably command $3-4 million/year which isn't overpriced.

~Crashintome89~ 03-04-2014 01:17 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15164629)
Isles didn't get the 1st they wanted. Two picks seems like a lot for him, but we'll see how he is with more talent around.

Macdonald was never getting a 1st. He's not worth it. He's a pending UFA with a contract hit of $525k.

HallowBillies7 03-04-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 15164660)
So with MacDonald coming to Philly does this mean Mezaros will be out the door to recoup some of those draft picks?


Still wouldn't be surprised if he ends up coming here.

lockman21 03-04-2014 01:23 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 15164643)
A 1st??? We were never going to get that. Was happy with a 2nd so even pleased with a 3rd too

Happy to hear ducks and bruins both in on vanek now. More the merrier.

Just goes to show how much defenseman command on the market. Those guys are top priority. I mean, everyone saw the frenzy that was caused by Suter hitting the open market.

That's what makes the Oduya rumors interesting. Legit top 4 defenseman are hard to come by.

TMoore4075 03-04-2014 01:30 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 15164687)
Macdonald was never getting a 1st. He's not worth it. He's a pending UFA with a contract hit of $525k.

No, but I'd be asking for it too. The prices are so much higher than they used to be with teams closer together in the standings and the cap. MacDonald 10 years ago? Maybe a 3rd rounder.

salrx95 03-04-2014 01:30 PM

Re: The NHL 2013-14 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 15164733)
Just goes to show how much defenseman command on the market. Those guys are top priority. I mean, everyone saw the frenzy that was caused by Suter hitting the open market.

That's what makes the Oduya rumors interesting. Legit top 4 defenseman are hard to come by.

True but he really is barely a top 4 and on a top 10, he is a 3rd pair. Wish he resigned because he is a solid 2nd pAir for us but he won't be worth the money he gets. He is going to block a lot of shots but makes a lot of mistakes near his own net and is not very physical. Decent 2nd pair dman on the pp, too.

Roose13 03-04-2014 01:33 PM

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Flyers get Andrew MacDonald for two picks and a prospect that I never heard of.


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