NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

FINE. I'll start it.

Should be a fun offseason for a lot of teams. Who is going to land Brad Richards? Ehrhoff? Kaberle? Vokoun? Bryzgalov? Gagne? Turco.....lololololololol

Some team(s) might be moving, interesting to see how that pans out.

Nice to know our sport will actually have a season.

Ben Smith - Marcus Kruger - Jeremy Morin = best line of 2011-2012

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I cannot support this thread.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I think I puked a little when I made it.

We've been talking about making it for what seems like months though. Wasn't fonz supposed to make it? :lol

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I support this thread

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Yeah, it's been awhile. Swordo's Oilers beat everyone, so the honor should be his.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

This :thumbsup

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I might have to jump in here tomorrow, I hope not though. Then I have to start thinking about the worse thing ever, a possible Nick Lidstrom retirement.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Kaberle=one of the most overrated blueliners of the past decade.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Proven it in Boston that's for sure.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Fingers crossed for getting Brad Richards.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

And toronto:lol:BANG

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Yeah but when you are on a shitty team you look better.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

This thread should get locked and put in the incinerator.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

What team do you root for?

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Don't worry it will be relevant for you in less that 12 hours.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

You can join this thread in the incinerator

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

You might be joining us shortly.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Sorry Swordo, we tried :shrug

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Sucks that the Hawks already took all the best tee times. Also shit aint over yet.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

He could always start the "NHL 11/12 Thread"

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Sigh..........

Looking forward to next year....Was really impressed with Ben Smith in the playoffs...

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

So are we going to use this thread? Or is Swordo going to make the official one?

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Bad thread. I'll start the *real one once the SCF is over :thumbsup

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:thumbsup

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Wait. Swordo was supposed to create this thread.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Two posts that sum up why I hate the Flyers and their fans. Stay classy Philly.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I could really give less of a shit who starts this thread, I just want next season to be here.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

If another thread actually gets started it will in fact look lamer than this thread being started a little early.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:thumbsup This.

Isn't that the whole point? I want to talk about next season and the offseason. This thread was started basically the same time in relation to when last years thread was started.

If you guys really give that big of a shit who started it, feel free to start your own. :lol

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Swordo already sent a nasty letter to the Oilers organization about this mix up.

Now the Oilers are going to win the Cup.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:thumbsup

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Clearly you don't understand sarcasm and just feel like making a decision about me because of a stereotype of Philly fans, I guess I can stoop to your level. Stay trashy, NJ.

As for this thread, I honestly don't care who made it I just thought we all had an understanding to start a tradition within the Ants hockey community to have the fan of the team who sucked the most start the thread.

And since the Flyers are now in golf mode I guess I can talk about the Flyers. I am glad Carcillo will be gone. I know a lot of Philadelphia people will be calling for a new goaltender and they are all wrong. Bobrovsky had a hell of a rookie campaign all things considered and deserves the chance for next year. Its also hard to figure out what else to say they need because of the cap space issue. I really like our defense right now, but they are getting old and they are paid pretty well. I wouldn't mind seeing Coburn moved if we could get something good in return, but I don't know. Still there is a long time til big moves are made.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Fair enough, I guess I did miss the sarcasm of telling someone to burn in an incinerator. Did not mean to (and wont) make a decision on you based on just that alone. Still hate the Flyers though.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Flyers have A LOT of work to do

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I vaguely remember talking about it a couple weeks ago, but as I said, I've been insanely busy and just haven't been around the past couple weeks. Must have missed most of the conversation about it or just forgot, and I felt like talking about next year.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

The Sabres. We are lacking in the Center deparment.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

He was talking about the thread. And that was a joke towards Ricky, who is everywhere. Ricky is a respected Boston fan and we love busting his balls.

Relax holmes.

And cool it with the NJ shit, JRS. A good percentage of Philly's fanbase is from Jersey.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

This. :lol

Can't wait for next year. I'm predicting a sabres vs. Bluejackets Stanley cup

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

How is it a tradition that the team that sucked the most gets to start the thread? If I recall correctly, didn't Joe start the 10-11 thread last year?

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Was relaxed in my response. Was being serious when I said I wouldn't judge someone on one or two posts on an internet forum. I am one to admit when I am a bit harsh. Thought that is why he didn't respond anymore.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:thumbsup yup, and everyone gave him sh*t for it calling him a sore loser lol.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

This is a good way to get this started. With any luck this will actually get locked because of this dumb arguement and then swordo can start the new one

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I am calling it now. Bluejackets Vs. Panthers Stanley Cup Finals! And it will be the most watched finals in history!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:lol I'd love it man - not as much as I'd love a jackets sabres final though

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Bruins!!!!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Boooooooooooooooo

Go lightning!!!!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I might be the only person who cares about the Panthers lol. They were once my favorite team ages ago. Back when they first started my Grandmother lived right near their arena and I used to go to games. But living up here I could never watch them so I became a Rangers fan. But I will always have a soft spot for the team.

Also, funny Panthers story. I met a German couple at Oktoberfest in Germany this year that were HUGE NHL fans! They both followed the sport an knew a lot about it. They informed me they would be making their way to the USA for the first time ever and would be attending an NHL game! I asked what game they would see....they were lucky enough to score Panthers vs. Thrashers tickets in Florida! They told me they couldn't wait to see what an NHL crowd was like in person. I told them the might be let down as they would probably be the only 2 people in the Arena!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:lol "they were lucky enough to score panthers vs thrashers tickets"

It's sad but true that that is probably the easiest ticket to get in all of sports

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

It was a funny conversation and I hope they enjoyed themselves! Last time I went to a Panther game you could get tickets for $7! I would got to all 41 Rangers home games if they were that price!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Gary Bettman probably smothers butter all over his body while reading this.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

This is the first time I've ever been excited to see what the sabres will do during free agency. Usually it's damage control but they have a chance to really make a splash this year

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:thumbsup

I'll consider Free Agency a success if they just let Tim Connolly go.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

The part I choose not to believe exists, I kid I kid

What part of trying to start a tradition can you not understand? I never said it was a tradition just that we agreed to START a tradition. Reading fail on your part, bud.

Are you talking about me? I haven't responded to anything because I just got home from school on 4 AM Saturday and I have been enjoying the family and gf and not really being on the computer to post on the webz.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

This thread should stick around only because us, as a collective NHL body, can make fun of Blackhawks fans, despite the fact that they have won a Cup more recently than the Flyers, which I am sure they will ultimately point out.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

LONG VERSION: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3tsd03H8yI

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

FUCK YOU! I will take your mother, Dorothy Manatooth, out to a nice seafood dinner, and never call her again.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:lol:lol:lol

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:lol :lol classic blackhawks/flyers fans

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Pretty damn hilarious that people are getting upset about who started a thread.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:lol this x100

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

in all fairness, you cant call new jersey trashy when philly, who i root for in all 4 sports, rocks the wonderful reputation of having over a murder per day....which is the highest average in the country.

that nonsense aside, i am also extremely happy happy carcillo can GTFO, but have to admit the flyers kind of fucked themselves over as far as contracts go.

1) what were they thinking giving jody shelly three years at over 1 million? for how little he contributes, that was a stupid, stupid move that wastes cap space

2) why in gods name hartnell is earning in excess of 4 million per year is beyond me, but if he doesnt start playing the way he did against the hawks last year in the cup finals, he needs to figure out where he wants to go so we can waive his NTC and ship him out. he didnt contribute shit this post-season and the one time he had a chance to stick up for himself and his team against a physically dominating bruins team, chara literally punched him in the mouth and knocked him down until he shut up. it was embarassing to watch.

3) cobourn or carle - i feel like were gonna have to keep one and trade the other. if ths is the case, id much rater get rid of carle and keep cobourn. pronger n timmonen arent getting any younger, odonnell sucks, syvret is meh, and bartulus needs to play more before he can be accurately judged. we need defensive help badly (which, btw, i dont get how you can say youre happy with our defense after boston literally played with us at will).

4) we NEED a goalie. i dont care how poorly our team played at times, because all the other times our team played well, our goalie(s) let in easy/shitty goals that really changed the dynamic of quite a few games. Bob has a lot of potential, but after this year bouche sadly needs to find a new home. the only reason the buffalo sabres got into game 7 - the only reason the flyers didnt take game 2 - the only reason we couldnt win the cup last year - it's simply our goalies letting poor shots that should be stopped trickle in. yes the team around the goalie makes a difference. but again, if the sabres round 1 showing cant explain why a great goalie is game-changing on the playoffs, idk what will.

all in all, next years team is going to be significantly different than this years, and with all the cap were spending on guys like carter, richards, briere, pronger, timmo, (soon enough JVR), etc - were gonna have to make some moves.



this will never happen. ever.

just accept it.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Most, if not all of those come from one section of the city, are gang related, or people that know each other. It's not like there are just random killings in center city.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I have no problem with Jersey people unless they are the cast of jersey shore or try to emulate the cast of jersey shore. That being said I will continue to make fun of all things NEw Jersey in the same way that I make fun of women. I am not serious I just like seeing people get pissy.

1) Signing him after we already had Carcillo was beyond stupid.
2) Hartnell is like our Matt Cooke. Definitely does make as many questionable hits, but he is more agitator than hockey player. Also like Cooke he does have the ability to hurt you on both the offensive side and defensive side of the game. That being said he does not deserve to be making what he is making.
3) I like Carle more, but I think it is more of a personal opinion. I would like to keep both if our cap space allowed.
4) I don't care how many people say we need a new goalie, I am going to disagree each time. Bob had a hell of a rookie season and he is only 23. I feel we need to give Bob full reigns of this team and see where he takes us. One of the reasons why we never had a stud goaltender is because we don't give them a fair shake.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I agree with all of that, especially #4

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Braydon Coburn is going to be an excellent defenseman, boy can that guy skate. The Flyers would be fucking dumb to get rid of him considering both Pronger and Timonen are 36.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Edit fail: tried to edit several times and couln't get it to work. Sorry for the nonpost here.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

As will I contiune to take random shots at Philly and their sports teams (I will just try to be a bit less harsh and serious then I was earlier in the thread). Fun to see you all get so defensive about your reputations as I am sure it is funny to see Jersey folk get "pissy" about ours. I for one gave up the Jersey defending years ago for two reasons: 1. It will never change anyone's view on the state and 2. I want to move out! :lol (back to Boston where I lived for 6 years).

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I am not defensive about the Philly rep, just that I am lumped in it :lol I honestly can say I hate a good 80% of the fan base here.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Philly fans are intense. They'll hammer you :lol

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Wow! Columbus to the East, and the Thrashers (Winnipeg) to the West (Central)!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Is this final?

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Columbus moving is being reported by the Columbus Dispatch, whoever moves to the West is speculation and rumors.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Well obviously the team moving West would be Winnepeg, but I find it hard to believe they would take the Central Division spot. They would switch with Minnesota and Minnesota would be in the Central. That's perfect for everyone if you ask me

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Leafs to make the playoffs next year? Here's hoping!

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

:lol The Leafs.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

^ my thoughts exactly. I laughed outloud when I read that. If the Thrashers leave and the Wings or Preds are the team that go East the Leafs chances get smaller. I'd be hoping for the Jackets to go or the Thrash to stay put. Although looking at the standings it'll be tough for the Leafs regardless. I mean the top 8 in the east this last year will challenge for those spots again and I'd expect the Devils to be in that battle too. Then on top of that if the Wings or Preds are there it's even tougher.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I really don't see anyway they could move the Wings to the East

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I really have no idea and I don't think anyone does since I've heard media people think Detroit, others think CBJ and others think Nashville so... Gary Bettman told the Wings they were next in line to move now does he stick to that? I'm assuming he thought it would be through expansion to Vegas, KC or Houston not relocation. Is there a difference though? Not really. I posted in the other thread about the arguments for keeping them really aren't that strong. Wings/Hawks rivalry isn't what it used to be, for Detroit anyways and the NHL didn't care about breaking up the Leafs/Wings/Hawks in the 90's so if the league does say that as a reason they'll be full of it. The other argument about selling tickets they only account for 5% of home games of teams not in the Central. Two sellouts in PHX really make a difference out of 41 games? How about you think about actual fans of the Wings instead of people in Phoenix or SoCal? I don't know if it'll happen, not confident it will but.. I just think Illitch has paid his dues and been a good owner, and voted for a cap that he didn't need or want so throw him a bone. Would be nice to have a 7 game series flying to Boston or FLA as the furthest rather than Vancouver or California.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Nashville would make sense since they can just throw them in the SE division and not have to change anything else around. I mean they could always put Columbus in the SE division too but I think Nashville makes more sense geographically.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Nashville is the easier in terms of plopping them into the SE. Detroit and Columbus make sense in term of being in the Eastern Timezone. Now not even thinking of homerism here I like the idea of the Wings moving and go to the NE. That puts them back with TO and the Habs. Boston goes to the Atlantic so that division stays good and Pit goes to the SE. You'd have 3 strong divisions imo. And I'm sure the NHL along with NBC/VS would have a boner over Crosby vs Ovie 6 times a year. "Hey boys we're adding two games to our schedule this year. Crosby and Ovie. I'm not sure what teams they're on but who care?"

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

There's no way Boston gets moved to the Atlantic imo. The rivalry with the Habs is just took big and there's a pretty big rivalry with TO since the Kessel trade. If anything I'd say the Wings would go to the Atlantic.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Or maybe Buffalo gets moved to the Atlantic.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Yeah but other than playing for the division they'd still see each other 4 times a year. Not like they are switching conferences. This is why Spectors Hockey tweeted yesterday he won't even begin to guess on realignment. I mean Detroit moves and they can really be in any division although NE and even Atlantic makes most sense. CBJ could be in any of them too. Nashville would be SE.

Then out west Winnipeg is the NW no question. Then Minny could move to the central and you coould maybe try to revive the old Hawks/North Stars rivalry. Then there are some who feel because of location Minny makes more sense to stay in the NW to play Winnipeg. So the Avs would then move to the Pacific and the Stars would go back to the Central. That also makes sense.

Then I've also read one idea why do we really need 6 divisions? Other than putting a banner in the rafters it doesn't do that much. Every division has at least one good team now so the whole division champ getting a top 3 spot isn't what it used to be when the SE sucked and you were either #3 or not in the playoffs. Then you also don't have to worry about who's in what division really.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Buffalo should be in the same division as Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. That would be a good one to move the Jackets into as well if they were to move to the East

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I think the Jackets end up in the SE if they move. They would fit in well with Pitt in the Atlantic but then you'd have to move Philly or one of the NYC teams which won't happen I don't think.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I dont't think you're doing CBJ any favors by moving them to the SE though

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Yeah but you aren't going to break up the NYC teams and I don't think you'd move Philly to the SE either so who goes to the SE to ATL's place?

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Why? It's not like they have any established rivalries or anything.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

You are correct but the in terms of location Pitt is a natural one I think. If they move it's the SE no question in my mind because of the location of Philly and the Isles, Devils and Rangers. And it would be replacing one underachieving team for another.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I just don't think Carolina, Tampa and FL playing games here every year would generate a lot of excitement about hockey in the city. If they had teams like Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Philly coming it attendance would go up

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Attendance won't go up until they get a good team. The league will be thinking more about established rivalries than the Blue Jackets attendance if they shuffle the divisions.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I meant attendance would go up mainly because with those teams there frequently all of those fans would fill the stadium. Likely CBJ is not going to work out here unfortuneatley

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I agree with this. If they keep finishing in the bottom part of the whatever conference it won't matter. That's also kind of why Detroit has a shot at being moved, however small. There is a benefit to moving Detroit (travel for the playoffs mostly), currently there isn't one for Columbus. They both should be in the East. Move FLA to Portland or something to free up another spot out East for both CBJ and the Wings.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

The whole hockey in the South project the NHL tried has really failed miserably. I think the league would actually be in a better position now if they hadn't tried that expansion.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Yes and no. Might not have got as good of a tv deal. Other than the OLN debacle out of the lockout Bettman has gotten the NHL better exposure on big networks. Although FLA, SJ, Anaheim and Tampa were not his doing. Some have worked out at least ok. (Dallas, Carolina and Tampa) ATL and the relocation to PHX have failed greatly. They expanded too fast. Including relocation we had 13 new franchises from 91-2000 and you expect them all to workout when many were not hockey markets?

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I just think more research should have been done on these locations. I mean it should have been pretty obvious ATL and PHX were never going to work out no matter what happened.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I agree 1000% Transplanted northerners and big market does not equal success. There is also little room for error in these markets. The longer you go without success the harder it will be to bring in fans. San Jose has worked because they've had sustained success. It's not Pitt, Chicago or even the Island where you know fans will/would be back.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

I wouldn't mind if Atlanta stayed where it was. For some reason, I think they would work a lot better than having a team in Phoenix.

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 

Atlanta doesn't support any of their franchises besides the Falcons. Even the Braves and Hawks are setting all time lows for attendance.