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~Crashintome89~ 02-03-2012 06:40 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Wow, jesus...either the Hawks were pitiful last night or we're seeing the 80's Oilers reincarnated.

TMoore4075 02-03-2012 06:50 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13311835)
Wow, jesus...either the Hawks were pitiful last night or we're seeing the 80's Oilers reincarnated.

He is only 1 number different on his back then someone...

TMoore4075 02-03-2012 06:56 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Son of a bitch, Jimmy out two weeks with a broken pinkie. Not THAT long but don't like it in this division.

kev87lads 02-03-2012 07:24 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Wowsers for Sam Gagner. Great stuff.

We all told you Carcillo was terrible. He has flashes but is 85% garbage. :lol

The Hawks will get it together to get themselves in the mix. But like the Flyers, no/inconsistent goaltending will be their end.

Timmy. A. Sorry for your loss. Saw on FB. B. The Wings will be fine. They always are.

~Crashintome89~ 02-03-2012 08:01 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 13311956)
Wowsers for Sam Gagner. Great stuff.

We all told you Carcillo was terrible. He has flashes but is 85% garbage. :lol

The Hawks will get it together to get themselves in the mix. But like the Flyers, no/inconsistent goaltending will be their end.

Timmy. A. Sorry for your loss. Saw on FB. B. The Wings will be fine. They always are.

I second these sentiments as well. My best to Tim and his family. :thumbsup

TMoore4075 02-03-2012 08:12 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 13311956)
Wowsers for Sam Gagner. Great stuff.

We all told you Carcillo was terrible. He has flashes but is 85% garbage. :lol

The Hawks will get it together to get themselves in the mix. But like the Flyers, no/inconsistent goaltending will be their end.

Timmy. A. Sorry for your loss. Saw on FB. B. The Wings will be fine. They always are.

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13312085)
I second these sentiments as well. My best to Tim and his family. :thumbsup

Thanks guys. That means a lot. Been a rough morning but starting to get a little better. As better as it can be.

dmbetc 02-03-2012 08:16 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Rangers trade Eric Christensen and a 7th round pick for Minnesota Wild Casey Wellman. Hmm

Bron Yr Aur 02-03-2012 08:41 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 13311590)
Great, the Stalberg signing panned out well for 3/4ths of a season. A+ Stan!

The Campbell trade was fine. Not great, but fine. Yeah, we dumped a contract, but Campbell was a LOT more important to this team than anyone gave him credit for. Look at how he's doing in Florida. Look at how great he made Hammer look. Without him, this blue line is a lot weaker than we thought it was. 4 is not that good. Leddy still needs time. Campbell is an All-Star defenseman that we traded away for AHL talent. Two bad contracts exchanging? Yeah, but at least Florida got the talent. Ask Rocky how he likes paying Olesz and Huet ~$9 this year for nothing.

Back to Stalberg. Great, he won that one (so far), but then he lost Frolik. $2.33 + the $875K for Stalberg basically evens itself out. Frolik is a $2.33 scratch on a team thats skating Bickell (who can't do anything right), and Andrew Shaw right now. A kid no one knew 7 months ago.

You will never convince me Carcillo was worth a damn. At all. He was fine for a couple games, but that's it. And that's the optimistic view of it. He didn't play well with a couple bad hits. He was a joke. He didn't do much positive after his first couple games when everyone was blowing him and what a great signing he was. He turned into a goon real fast. He had 82 PIM in 28 games....82! That's the equivilant of a little over 240 if he played all 82 games (which is impossible). He was suspended multiple times...just a disgrace to the sweater. You could have found a bunch of guys that can provide on the 4th line without being a goon.

Yeah, obviously if Crawford were having a stellar year, we'd be complaining less, but he isn't.

Bowman struck out. It was a weak free agent class, yeah, and at least he managed a bunch of 1 year deals, I guess.

He also signed John Scott to a 1-way 2 year deal. So, that was a smart one. Now we have to keep him on the NHL squad because they're scared to send him down through waivers "IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE CLAIMS HIM".

Is Sami Lepisto still alive?

Good call with Hjalmarsson as well. Him and Montador are absolutely worth $6 million a year until the start of the 2014 season...when we'll only be paying a 35 year old Steve Montador...

Florida is back to mediocre. Sure Campbell looks good racking up assists on the PP there. Big deal. How about his defense? Still a complete sham.

They keep Scott because they want him out there in games where other teams have a legit heavy. Scott had improved quite a bit, I thought. But Q just won't ever play him. At all. If he's in the lineup, he has to get more than 4 minutes or he should be on the 4th line where he can't hurt you.

Frolik's deal has turned out bad so far. He took a flyer on a guy that could have either broken out and gone back to a potential 20-goal scorer...if that happened, he would have been easily moveable and worth the contract. Didn't happen.

As far as Hammer, it seems like you and bonzo have loved him since the Cup year...he is solid. Probably not worth his contract but he blocks more shots than just about anyone in the league. Paired with Leddy, though, it's a chinese fire drill inside their own zone. I know you hated Leddy - Keith, which definitely had run its course, but Hammer - Seabs is a shutdown pairing on D.

I agree that Stan Bowman's signings have been kind of weird. His big success story is Stalberg. It was a stroke of genius to sign him for two years. If 25 were a UFA after this season, he would have brought 3 times (probably even more) the salary he'll make next year.

He has been very good on trades, though, so far. Remember dumping Cam Barker and his awful salary for Nick Leddy? Talk about a highway robbery of Minnesota. And dumping Jack Skille for a solid G prospect in Salak and Frolik. Now, the fact that he re-signed Frolik was an error but the trade in the first place was a good one.

I think you are leveling too much blame on the GM and not enough on Q and his awful systems. Kitchen is an idiot and the guy probably wouldn't have an assistant job with any other team. But he's Q's buddy so he stays.

How about the players? Duncan Keith admitted he wasn't "all there" last season and this year he's been better, but surely not his 08-10 self. There are others...Kane has been disappointing, Frolik, Bickell just falling apart.

~Crashintome89~ 02-03-2012 08:44 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 13312132)
Rangers trade Eric Christensen and a 7th round pick for Minnesota Wild Casey Wellman. Hmm

In which point Eklund yells out, "DOMINOS!"

DMBCubs25 02-03-2012 08:57 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I had no problem with the Carcillo signing. It was a low risk move and he played halfway decent and was one of maybe a few guys on this team that throws a hit with intent. Don't think we will be seeing him back next year though.

Roose13 02-03-2012 09:13 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13312124)
Thanks guys. That means a lot. Been a rough morning but starting to get a little better. As better as it can be.

I didn't see what happened because I'm not friends with you on Facebook but you have my sympathies for the loss you suffered.

Bron Yr Aur 02-03-2012 09:58 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 13312259)
I had no problem with the Carcillo signing. It was a low risk move and he played halfway decent and was one of maybe a few guys on this team that throws a hit with intent. Don't think we will be seeing him back next year though.

Yeah, probably not. But the team certainly had a pretty damn good record before he got hurt. His physicality willingness to drop the gloves and stand up for the team will be missed.

TMoore4075 02-03-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 13312314)
I didn't see what happened because I'm not friends with you on Facebook but you have my sympathies for the loss you suffered.

Yeah thanks a lot. My grandmother passed away this morning. We have been expecting it and you think that would make it easier when it happens but it doesn't. Thanks again.

~Crashintome89~ 02-03-2012 10:19 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5NqX...eature=related

Eberle getting snubbed. :lol

DmBand801 02-03-2012 12:17 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 13312132)
Rangers trade Eric Christensen and a 7th round pick for Minnesota Wild Casey Wellman. Hmm

Guy has been a healthy scratch more often than not. This gives him a fresh start.

Dramageek 02-03-2012 12:51 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13312529)
Yeah thanks a lot. My grandmother passed away this morning. We have been expecting it and you think that would make it easier when it happens but it doesn't. Thanks again.

Very sorry to hear that. It's never easy. Good thoughts and condolences your way. I'll even send a 'Go Wings' your way!

DmBand801 02-03-2012 12:57 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 13313070)
Very sorry to hear that. It's never easy. Good thoughts and condolences your way. I'll even send a 'Go Wings' your way!

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Sorry, Tim.

How come no one is my facebook friend? lolz.

fonzz41 02-03-2012 03:05 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Hey Tim, condolensces on your loss. May your happy memories with your grandmother lift you up during this hard time. Our prayers are with your family.

fonzz41 02-03-2012 03:07 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 13313085)

How come no one is my facebook friend? lolz.

Matty K Thacker. Do it.

Nice to hear from you again, buddy.

bonzo48280 02-03-2012 03:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
If there are not major changes for the Hawks tonight, I'm gonna black out.

DmBand801 02-03-2012 04:00 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13313364)
Matty K Thacker. Do it.

Nice to hear from you again, buddy.

That's the spirit.

How have you been, Matty?

DMBCubs25 02-03-2012 04:00 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13313428)
If there are not major changes for the Hawks tonight, I'm gonna black out.

I'm getting started in preparation for this tonight.

UCFish 02-03-2012 04:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13313428)
If there are not major changes for the Hawks tonight, I'm gonna black out.

:lol:lol:lol

:thumbsup

Just got 4 free tix for Kings/Hawks though for end of month!

DMBCubs25 02-03-2012 05:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Got some tix for next weekend Hawks/Yotes. Possibly could get to go in Hawks locker room before the game. Buddy here has a connection with front office.

~Crashintome89~ 02-03-2012 06:42 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 13313558)
Got some tix for next weekend Hawks/Yotes. Possibly could get to go in Hawks locker room before the game. Buddy here has a connection with front office.

Tell them I said, "Go fuck yourselves."

bonzo48280 02-03-2012 08:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
This is one of the lowest times in a while. This absolutely sucks

Bron Yr Aur 02-03-2012 08:36 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13313867)
This is one of the lowest times in a while. This absolutely sucks

Don't want to say I told you so, but...yeah. I have been saying this team isn't as good as you all seem to think. Q might be on the hot seat if this continues, I think.

bonzo48280 02-03-2012 09:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13313870)
Don't want to say I told you so, but...yeah. I have been saying this team isn't as good as you all seem to think. Q might be on the hot seat if this continues, I think.

They just happened to luck their way into the record they currently have....got it.


and to the bolded...you are insane. No way, not with this management.

DMBCubs25 02-03-2012 10:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Had they not backed into the playoffs last year Q would be on the hot seat. '10 team won in spite of him. No reason to argue that he is a great coach. He has worn out his welcome in every spot he has coached.

DMBCubs25 02-03-2012 10:40 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Past year and a half they have greatly underwhelmed. With the personnel they have there is no way they should have the special teams rank they have right now, that is squarely on the coaching staff. They get blown out by 4 last tonight to a terrible EDM team and come out with the response they had tonight? Pathetic.


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