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That’s the thing, everyone has their f ya’s 🤟🏼and f no’s😡. The band has a huge catalog at this point. I’m just happy that I can still see them play at such a high level decades later. It took me a while to get over my set list hate, and once I did, it seemed silly. |
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I totally agree with you once I finally stopped worrying about what was going to be played or ticked about what was played I started enjoying the shows a lot more. Looking back now it just seems silly, for me anyway. If peeps on here want to have an opinion on what was played or not played or flow, have at it. Just understand it's your opinion, not fact. Cheers to you man. |
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The night before had some gems, nice surprises, things that hadn't been played all tour basically. |
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and then ARKANSAS gets JTR (3rd of the tour), hello again (3), recently (2), granny (10), say goodbye (5), and typical (2) all in one show. |
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i'd add can't stop and that girl is you. pig and crush were the only two songs for a long, long stretch that were good and this isn't just a setlist thing. the playing, especially from dave, was uninspired. time of the season was a god damn train wreck. this is the thing with touring bands that change up their setlists - every once in a while yr gonna see a stinker. it's OK - i still love them and will see them anytime i can. |
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The only part I found dreadful was Cant Stop and TGIY. The rest was a fun IMO.
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as i've said a few times in this thread and others - the issue with N2 went beyond the setlist, which had an abysmal middle stretch in and of itself. it was the playing/performance. and do people really love or "chase" rye whiskey? |
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Rye Whiskey is awesome
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I have seen Rye Whiskey three times. I'm good.
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Rye Whiskey is just a really uninteresting cover. So instead of having three cover songs in a set, if you want to toss in a slow quiet song mid-set, how about Pay for What You Get? or Cry Freedom? or Baby Blue? or Christmas Song? or Let You Down?
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or, as we've seen from the gorge, dave has the ability to play tons of his own songs that the band normally plays. if he needed to add a solo song so someone could take a leak, how about ants, BOWA, or YNK, like from the gorge, or any of the dozens of other songs he could play on his own? and idk about OOMH over rye whiskey. i think i'd rather just not hear either of them. dave could just tell a story for 5 minutes like he does during D+T shows if the band needs a breather for whatever reason. |
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Would definitely prefer Rye Whiskey over OOMH, that song has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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I'm sure someone will start a 2022 Denver thread. I'm planning on Denver this summer, never been before, assuming they do Fiddler's again of course.
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You are correct. We were going to be skipped on the 2020 summer tour, but obviously that didn't happen at all, so we haven't actually been skipped since 2018. It's my understanding that some promoter in town wants to keep them "special" by not bringing them back every year. Not sure if there is any truth to this, but I seem to remember reading it somewhere.
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I looked back a bit. Denver has actually been sporadic rather then every other year that I thought.
2010- yes. 2011 - no. 2012 - no. 2013 - yes. 2014 - no. 2015 - yes. 2016 & 2017 - no. 2018 & 2019 - yes. 2020 - no (if there were shows played in 2020, Denver would have been a no. 2021 - yes. So I guess with that mess...could be a show could not be. Lol. |
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Interesting, however 2011 and 2017 were no's for different reasons. Also interesting to learn about that promoter from you and Jesse- thanks for that. I'll be cheering for them to return to Denver this summer. Throw on Salt Lake City again too, please. |
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being an album tour and a history of good selling shows the last few times they've played at fiddlers, i'd be very surprised if denver gets skipped this year, regardless of what past trends say about how often they play here.
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Fiddler's calendar is essentially empty this year too. Only 6 shows booked total for the year. The weekend before Labor Day is available as well. If we go by 2018 and 2019, Denver was the "warm up" weekend before the Gorge, first shows back after the regular "break".
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I believe the big promoter in Denver is Chuck Morris. Or was, I think he handed over the reigns pre covid and is now teaching music business at CSU. Fingers crossed that means maybe DMB could become and every year act again. Maybe they alternate between 1 and 2 night stands every other year. But Fiddlers has been hot the last 2 tours. Great crowd. Great sets and performances. Band seems to really enjoy it there for one reason or another.
I hated that post 2006 DMB became an every other year act, likely because they didn't sell out the Pepsi Center on a 2 night stand that tour. Tix were available very cheap day of. It's not really fair because they had just played 4 nights at Red Rocks a year prior and 2006 was a pretty flat year for the band in terms of excitement. Stand Up had fallen short of every fan hard core and casual. It was likely the middle of the falling out the band talks about so often. -2007 was the first year they hadn't played in Colorado since 2004. 2004 was the first year they ever skipped since their first show here in 93. -They headlined the Mile High Music Fest in 08. -Skipped an album year in 2009 which makes no sense. That tour was huge. -2010 Once again tried to revive the MHMF, but the promoter of that realized that the fans were only coming for DMB and cancelled it the next year. -2011 Break -2012 because they had started a new tour, I assume they didn't count 2011 as a "skipped" year - 2013 Dicks 2 night stand. N1 was 50% capacity, N2 sold out - 2014 skip -2015 new venue stop at Fiddlers for 2 sets. Great turn out and sellouts both nights. Really good shows. Likely the best shows the band had done in CO in some time. 2016- SKIP?? I never understood this one. Another tour before the break, and CO was skipped. Seemed like a missed oppty. I do wonder if the timing of there mid tour month break, and the day labor day falls effects this at all. If Labor Day is the first or the 7th. Does this make a difference in if they do CO and UT shows? 2017 - D&T tour. Nowhere west of the Mississippi 2018,2019, 2021 Fiddlers. 2020 would have been a skip for who knows why. All Sell outs. I think they could easily do 3 nights at Fiddlers. Tix were very hard to come by in 2019/21 and it seemed to be a destination spot for a lot of the crowd. All signs point to a skip in 2022 minus the assumption that Chuck Morris is no longer running the show and who I believe is the reason they were on the "special" schedule. |
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"Chuck Morris should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell... Would you like a cookie, son?"
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More likely Denver is weekend of the 9th or weekend of the 16th?
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Sounds like it. Typically a nice time of year.
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rumor thread says "early sept" which would mean sept 9-10 as gorge would be the previous weekend
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In 18 & 19 we were the warm-up weekend before the gorge. I would imagine that pattern holds true. Rarely do they go out to the west coast pacific time and then travel back to mountain time. Last year being an exception with all the moved dates.
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Sounds like dates are the weekend after the Gorge, according to rumors board. I was hoping for Bend and Irvine x 2 then fiddlers the 16th, 17th. The Gorge and Fiddlers back to back weekends sounds fun, but hard on the band, unless there are no shows in between.
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I just booked a refundable room at the wingate/wyndham... its supposedly right across the street from the venue... anyone ever stay there? is it really that close?
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I stayed at wingate/wyndham in 2019 and it was a great location. No more than a long block or two away from the venue, with an easy walk. Clean hotel. Good free basic hot breakfast. Some light tailgating in the nearby parking lots in the late afternoon before the show. Easy to snag some posters and merch, walk back to the room, then walk back to the venue for the show. Not a ton of food options nearby, but that is more a Fiddler’s problem than a problem with the hotel.
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Torchy's and Chuy's aren't terrible choices pre-show. DTC has been more of a daytime lunch spot because of all the business parks around the area, but it's finally starting to lean into the night life side of things as well which is nice for those of us that live in the area. :)
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Torchy's, Chuy's, Whatburger... last time I was in Denver I felt like I was back in Austin.
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Just saw Brandi Carlile is also playing the 9th and 10th. Don't know how a collab would even be possible, but maybe the helicopter her in for a song near the beginning of the set at 740.. and then she helicopters back to Red Rocks for her own show at 9 ish.
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Damn. This ruined my morning. Hadn’t put the dates together, but there’s no way I’m missing Indigo Girls/Brandi Carlile at Red Rocks for a DMB show at Fiddlers. Especially with how hard that Saturday night ticket was to get for other people. For the first time ever, I hope the rumors are wrong and that DMB picks a different date.
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Might as well get the 2022 thread started.
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Can we finally acknowledge that Denver is a legitimate 2 night stand for this band?
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Ok... I have never been to Colorado. We are thinking of headed out for the weekend. Pointers? Stay in Denver? Uber back and forth? Hotel reccomendations?
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We tried Uber the first night and getting there was great, but leaving was pretty miserable. We even left at the start of E2. The second night we purchased parking through AXS and had a much easier time getting home. Leaving the parking garage was a little rough, but much better than the Uber wait. Great trip as the sightseeing during the day was a lot of fun. The hangovers are a bitch. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk |
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I'd go airbnb vs hotel, but that's a personal opinion. Highly recommend getting reserved seats. The lawn is overcrowded and tilted just enough that you'll all be smashed in at the end of the show. I like to know I have a spot so I don't have to get there hours before the doors open. |
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When the dates popped up I fully expected to get skipped.
Put in my Warehouse request again. Fully prepared to be disappointed again, lol Oh well, excited to see a couple more local shows! |
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The lawn is not great. You have to get there when the doors open to get a good spot. I've only done reserved once and me and my GF at the time left the seats and moved back to the lawn because the people around us were miserable. Talking throughout songs, overly drunk, ect. I might give reserved another shot this year.
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This will be a Friday only for me. Or I suppose I could scalp my Brandi Carlile tickets and pay for VIP both nights. 365 days in a year and one concert on my "Summer Schedule" and there's a conflict. I wish I was that lucky when it came to Powerball.
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I'll be doing both night methinks. After last year's banger N1 and clunker N2, can't chance missing N1.
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I still thought N2 was fun last year!
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Encore of N2 was phenomenal. Definitely had some high spots. First time I've ever gotten #40 in any form. But N1 slayed.
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I did not see anywhere on warehouse for priority selection for a show. Did I miss it?
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We don't need two threads for these shows. Would y'all prefer to rename this one, or close this one and move to the new one?
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Locking the new one and renaming this one might be best as this one already has a wealth of searchable info regarding hotels, venue info, and parking. Fiddler's always has a lot of question marks in terms of itinerary for first timers.
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Let's rename it!
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Maybe better to stay in Denver and set up a car service to go home both nights
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how long are you thinking about staying in colorado? early sept is an absolutely beautiful time of year out here. if you can, i would strongly suggest making it a full vacation and stay an extra 3+ days besides the show days, if possible, and spend some time in the mountains. you're going to see them from the venue and wish you had time to go into them. |
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happy to see fiddlers is indeed 2 nights again. fully planning on doing both. just a matter of who i talk into going with me this year.
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So never been to Colorado. Stay in Denver and get a car service if possible? Or stay near venue and uber into the city during the day
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I'm at work and cannot type out a full response at the moment, but I can put something together for first timers later tonight. Stay tuned. :)
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I agree there was a lul in N2 but it started and ended well and was fun. N1 was great, was my son's first show, though he wasn't quite ready for the length of some of the songs, lol. Maybe this year.
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OK, below is a somewhat coherent compilation of opinions and info regarding where to stay, info on parking and what time to get to the venue, info on Denver Tech Center/Greenwood Village vs Downtown Denver, and other little nuggets. I didn't want to retype all of this, and now everyone gets credit for their opinions/suggestions.
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LoDo and the 16th street mall are the main parts of downtown denver for food and nightlife. there are some museums and stuff like that. Meow Wolf is a little outside of downtown, but really cool and pretty trippy. there's a lot of stuff around denver, so it depends on what you really want to do. you could even do denver stuff during the day before the shows and venture into the mountains on sunday. breckenridge is about 90 minutes from denver. its a beautiful drive and a cool little town. |
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i replied to you again in the 2021 thread, but we can move the conversation over to this one.
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:thumbsup Keeping this one makes the most sense to me as well. Since some questions and info were posted in the other one, I've merged it into this one so those posts show up in here. |
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Thanks, Matthew!
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Well done Speilman :thumbsup
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Thanks. Very helpful. Any good car service companies? I called 303 and they wanted $400 bucks per night just to get picked up. That is nuts!!!
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If you're paying $400 a night for a car service you might be better to rent one. If you stay near the venue you can just walk.
Light rail during the day is very easy and cheap for getting up to downtown from DTC. I personally don't know anything about car service providers. Maybe others do? |
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I booked the Wyndam for the nights of the shows. Want to stay in Denver on Wed- Thurs. Any pointers
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