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TMoore4075 05-17-2011 03:07 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12591441)
I wouldn't mind if Atlanta stayed where it was. For some reason, I think they would work a lot better than having a team in Phoenix.

I'm the other way. I think Phoenix has a better shot to succeed. Even though I don't think they will either because of all the bad that has happened over the last 5-7 years.

lockman21 05-18-2011 11:02 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Here's something somewhat realistic I think we might see from the Blackhawks next season, assuming a $62.2 million cap like is being reported in some places:

Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

Rebecca De Mornay 05-18-2011 11:07 AM

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You only feel Phoenix has a better chance to succeed because they've done better recently. If the Thrashers were any good they would draw more fans, better TV numbers etc.

lockman21 05-18-2011 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12594987)
You only feel Phoenix has a better chance to succeed because they've done better recently. If the Thrashers were any good they would draw more fans, better TV numbers etc.

No teams do well in Atlanta. Even if they were winning the Thrashers wouldn't draw.

dduncan6er 05-18-2011 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12594987)
You only feel Phoenix has a better chance to succeed because they've done better recently. If the Thrashers were any good they would draw more fans, better TV numbers etc.

No they wouldn't. They were good the first half the season and have some young exciting players but no one down there gave a shit.

Rebecca De Mornay 05-18-2011 11:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12595034)
No they wouldn't. They were good the first half the season and have some young exciting players but no one down there gave a shit.

I'm talking about a little bit of sustained success - or at least a playoff game

dduncan6er 05-18-2011 11:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12595083)
I'm talking about a little bit of sustained success - or at least a playoff game

The Hawks have had playoff success. They're absolutely desperate to get people in the building, and something tells me there's more basketball fans in Atlanta than hockey fans.

TMoore4075 05-18-2011 11:45 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12594974)
Here's something somewhat realistic I think we might see from the Blackhawks next season, assuming a $62.2 million cap like is being reported in some places:

Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

Cole's not leaving the Canes. He works there and seems to like it. He stunk in Edmonton and came back to Carolina and fit back in pretty quickly.
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12595089)
The Hawks have had playoff success. They're absolutely desperate to get people in the building, and something tells me there's more basketball fans in Atlanta than hockey fans.

This ^. It's a terrible sports town. The transplant thing hurts. My friends don't care about seeing the Thrashers play anyone except the Wings. Then they'll go downtown to see them. This whole put a winning product on the ice is all well and good but with teams like the Pens, Flyers, Caps, Bruins, Habs and probably TBL now being playoff teams every year the window to be a playoff team is pretty small. To be relevant in that market you need to win and I don't see them getting into the playoffs anytime soon and the longer you go without success the more the people there will not even think about you which makes them less viable. There is no one who wants to own the team there at least not legitimate people. The Ducks were owned by Disney, Huizinga owned the Panthers. Big time people with big money and they eventually backed out. You need owners with big pockets, a passion for the game and passion for the game in that market. This is not an investment like the NBA can be and the NFL is. It's more of a job than that, especially in the south. That's why when I read about Lil Jon and Bruckheimer I laughed cause neither of them would be hands on owners it would just be name recognition which would wear off after a while. The same way the novelty of hockey in Miami and Atlanta did when those teams weren't winning.

Rebecca De Mornay 05-18-2011 02:03 PM

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We had a big arguement this weekend in my family about wheter Ruff should be fired. While he's been there a long time and never won he's overachieved for the most part. I think he does a nice job and has had bad injury luck in his career. I want to see him stick around - what does everyone else think?

TMoore4075 05-18-2011 02:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12595721)
We had a big arguement this weekend in my family about wheter Ruff should be fired. While he's been there a long time and never won he's overachieved for the most part. I think he does a nice job and has had bad injury luck in his career. I want to see him stick around - what does everyone else think?

Well he did re-sign didn't he? He's a Barry Trotz type. Not given much to work with too often but gets the most and more out of his players usually. If the new owner starts putting money into the team and they don't get past the level they are at now then maybe he'll get fired but it's not his fault the team couldn't or wouldn't re-sign players.

swordo84 05-18-2011 02:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12595771)
Well he did re-sign didn't he? He's a Barry Trotz type. Not given much to work with too often but gets the most and more out of his players usually. If the new owner starts putting money into the team and they don't get past the level they are at now then maybe he'll get fired but it's not his fault the team couldn't or wouldn't re-sign players.

This is what I thought too... Ruff is a good coach, and with the new owner willing to commit $$$$ Buffalo should be looking good shortly!

lockman21 05-18-2011 02:44 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12595175)
Cole's not leaving the Canes. He works there and seems to like it. He stunk in Edmonton and came back to Carolina and fit back in pretty quickly.

:lol That one signing was kinda wishful thinking. Everything else seems to be realistic though.

TMoore4075 05-18-2011 04:59 PM

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If you want a good laugh check out the Thrashers facebook page and the comments about the select-a-seat for this weekend. "Will the seats be on the roof so we can use telescopes to watch the game in Winnipeg?"

lockman21 05-18-2011 05:10 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12596503)
If you want a good laugh check out the Thrashers facebook page and the comments about the select-a-seat for this weekend. "Will the seats be on the roof so we can use telescopes to watch the game in Winnipeg?"

:lol:lol:lol:lol

Rebecca De Mornay 05-19-2011 09:17 AM

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:lol :lol that's hilarious

Rebecca De Mornay 05-19-2011 09:18 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12595771)
Well he did re-sign didn't he? He's a Barry Trotz type. Not given much to work with too often but gets the most and more out of his players usually. If the new owner starts putting money into the team and they don't get past the level they are at now then maybe he'll get fired but it's not his fault the team couldn't or wouldn't re-sign players.

Yeah my thoughs exactly. In '06 which was arguably his best team he lost his top 4 D-men in the playoffs. There's only so much a coach can do in that scenario. If the new owner spends the money he's talking about spending and they still don't get results then I'm all for a change but at this point he still deserves the job

TMoore4075 05-19-2011 11:48 AM

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Brad McCrimmon finally being fired by the Wings. Coached the PK and first year was 23rd, second year (last year) not terrible at 10th, and this year 17th and 13 out of 16 in the playoffs. They'll just say his contract was up but if he was good he would have been retained. See ya!

TMoore4075 05-19-2011 04:39 PM

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Crawford signed to 3 year deal with the Hawks.

dduncan6er 05-19-2011 04:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12600513)
Crawford signed to 3 year deal with the Hawks.

What's the cap hit on that?

~Crashintome89~ 05-19-2011 04:41 PM

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Nik Zherdev apparently attacked his wife last night. Too bad he wasn't as aggressive in the playoffs.

TMoore4075 05-19-2011 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12600518)
What's the cap hit on that?

No news on that yet. With Jimmy Howard's at $2.25 a year for two years I'd guess around that since they are in pretty similar situations.

edit: 8mil total so $2.6mil a year. Surprises me it's that high but if he's even better as time goes on it's a good deal.

dduncan6er 05-19-2011 04:57 PM

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Lockman severely underestimated that in his capgeek roster he made on the last page.

bonzo48280 05-19-2011 06:12 PM

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I didn't think Crawford would get this much higher than $2 mil, but anything under $3 I am able to deal with. Great to have him signed now. The Hawks have about $8 mil in cap space with 6-7 guys left. I think Hjalmarrson will be gone and we will bring in someone much cheaper to be Campbell's safety net (Sopel).

DMBCubs25 05-19-2011 06:23 PM

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Like the Crawford signing, glad it didn't turn into a Niemi-esque situation like last year.

TMoore4075 05-19-2011 10:25 PM

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Holy shit.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article2029179

sgtpeppr 05-19-2011 10:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12601587)

Yup... just coming in here to post this.

joepsu0985 05-19-2011 11:58 PM

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It's not a done deal yet. I'm guessing it happens though. Did this year's thread go to die?

rickyh24 05-19-2011 11:59 PM

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Bruins!!!

joepsu0985 05-20-2011 12:16 AM

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http://store.hbo.com/detail.php?p=300305#tabs

24/7 on DVD.

fonzz41 05-20-2011 12:50 AM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6568200

Could just be smoke and mirrors

TMoore4075 05-20-2011 08:47 AM

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It's the whole where there is smoke there is fire. It's gotta be close.

Ken Campbell says it's between Atlanta Spirit and the NHL in terms of relocation fee and who gets how much money.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ipeg-move.html

I also find it interesting that there was never any type of relocation fee when Hartford, Minnesota, Quebec and Winnipeg left but now there is.

bonzo48280 05-20-2011 12:37 PM

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so Atlanta to Winnepeg requires a $60 million relocation fee which goes towards the revenue which bumps the cap? Yes?

TMoore4075 05-20-2011 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12602728)
so Atlanta to Winnepeg requires a $60 million relocation fee which goes towards the revenue which bumps the cap? Yes?

Not according to what I read. It would be the same as an expansion fee and does not count as hockey related revenue. The $60mil however would probably help cover the losses of the Coyotes that the $25mil from Glendale did not.

lockman21 05-20-2011 02:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12600603)
Lockman severely underestimated that in his capgeek roster he made on the last page.

Salak just signed by the Hawks to a one year, 600k deal. So that basically balances the two out to just about the same cap hit I had thought.

Rebecca De Mornay 05-20-2011 02:50 PM

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So the Thrashers are moving to Winnipeg? Is this pretty much official?

bonzo48280 05-20-2011 02:52 PM

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Alexander Salak gets new deal

The Chicago Blackhawks have signed goalie prospect Alexander Salak to a two-year deal worth about $600,000 per year, according to a source familiar with the situation.

The Blackhawks have yet to make an official announcement regarding the deal.

Salak, 24, was acquired in a trade with the Florida Panthers in February for Jack Skille and other prospects. The Hawks also acquired Michael Frolik in the trade.

Salak made his NHL debut in 2009, appearing in two games for the Panthers. He was loaned to Färjestad BK of the Swedish Elite League for the 2010-11 season.

The deal is a one-way contract, according to the source. It makes Salak the front runner to be Corey Crawford's back-up. Crawford signed a new three-year contract extension on Thursday.

Salak's cap hit was $1.3, so now that frees up another $700k and gives a good estimation into who may be backing up Crawford for the next two years.

I'm also fooling around with CapGeek right now, and I set the Cap at $62, even though I think it will go higher than that. Got rid of Hjalmarsson, brought in somebody for $1.5 mil (just used Sopel :lol), gave Campoli $1.7, Frolik $1.5, and Brouwer $1.2. That leaves me 20 players and I still have $4,931,966 in cap space. My point is that if the Cap goes higher than 62, which a lot of people are saying it will, and the Hawks can get rid of Hjalmarsson and bring in somebody cheaper to do his job (safety net for Campbell) then I think the Hawks can have a lot of space to sign a real good second line center or some wingers.

lockman21 05-20-2011 02:55 PM

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No one is going to take Hjalmarsson.

bonzo48280 05-20-2011 03:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12603313)
No one is going to take Hjalmarsson.

you really don't think so? He's only 23 (i believe). Some team is going to think he has a lot of upside. I think he has a lot of upside, but I think this team could be improved if we had some cap space from him

lockman21 05-20-2011 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12603342)
you really don't think so? He's only 23 (i believe). Some team is going to think he has a lot of upside. I think he has a lot of upside, but I think this team could be improved if we had some cap space from him

Not with the 3.5 million cap hit and the season he had last year. The guy is like Happy Gilmore from the point, without the power. He's a nearly 4 million dollar shot blocker with a really good active stick.

This is what I just put together with a signing of 0 outside UFA's or RFA's:

Quote:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Patrick Kane ($6.300m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Bryan Bickell ($0.541m)
Ben Smith ($0.812m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Michael Frolik ($1.275m)
Troy Brouwer ($1.400m) / Ryan Johnson ($0.500m) / Jeremy Morin ($0.886m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Brent Seabrook ($5.800m)
Duncan Keith ($5.538m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Nick Leddy ($1.116m) / Chris Campoli ($1.300m)
/ John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.666m) / Alexander Salak ($0.600m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,643,004; BONUSES: $965,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,356,996
(sorry guys, spoilers don't work when I quote someone)

Obviously the lines are jumbled, but just an idea of players. Very, very possible, leaving us $2.35 in cap space to sign one forward. We're in no desperate need to get rid of cap space, and by the Crawford signing, I think Bowman has a decent idea of what the cap will look like next year. I'm not worried about shaving Hammer's deal, and would hate to see him go. I think he still has potential.

bonzo48280 05-20-2011 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12603373)
Obviously the lines are jumbled, but just an idea of players. Very, very possible, leaving us $2.35 in cap space to sign one forward. We're in no desperate need to get rid of cap space, and by the Crawford signing, I think Bowman has a decent idea of what the cap will look like next year. I'm not worried about shaving Hammer's deal, and would hate to see him go. I think he still has potential.

I would like to see Krueger in the AHL next season. He is not NHL ready, and I highly doubt he will be next year either. I would rather cut him off the roster, decide if Bolland is your #2 or #3 center, and sign the other one.

lockman21 05-20-2011 03:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12603406)
I would like to see Krueger in the AHL next season. He is not NHL ready, and I highly doubt he will be next year either. I would rather cut him off the roster, decide if Bolland is your #2 or #3 center, and sign the other one.

Disagree 100%. And I highly, highly doubt Kruger spends any time in the AHL. Bowman wanted Kruger on the roster at the beginning of LAST season, and has been said to have a really high learning curve. I don't think Kruger wants to play in the AHL, which he might have done last year had he stayed here instead of going overseas.

Bowman loves the kid. As do I. He showed lots of promise in that Vancouver series, and just needs time to adjust. A good offseason with the guys will be good for him and his game. He's been said 100 times to be like Dave Bolland, which I love. He gets a lot done without really being noticed. For his cap hit, keep him up with the Hawks.

dmbetc 05-20-2011 08:26 PM

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Toxicology report done for Boogaard:

http://minnesota.sbnation.com/minnes...ed-an-accident

Lesson to us all, do not mix drugs and booze.

lockman21 05-21-2011 01:55 PM

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NHL Deputy Commish Bill Daly: "It appears our salary cap will be going up." Projects new cap will be $60.5M to $63.5M.

Rebecca De Mornay 05-21-2011 03:16 PM

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Good for the Sabres and their new onwner. Bad for CBJ

TMoore4075 05-23-2011 10:52 AM

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Hope everyone had a fantastic weekend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12605567)
Good for the Sabres and their new onwner. Bad for CBJ

You sir are correct. I have a feeling Bettman wished he had taken that $50mil hard cap not linked to league wide revenue the NHLPA had proposed. Lines between small market and large market are blurred because they are miles apart now.

Good news for the people of Winnipeg this morning on Victoria Day in Canada but not so good for Atlanta:
http://twitter.com/#!/ajcthrashers/s...58437925908480

TMoore4075 05-23-2011 08:33 PM

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News coming out that Brian Rafalski will announce his retirement this week. Everyone thought Lidstrom would be the guy, and still might be. No one thought Rafi would be gone. Hello $6mil in cap space.

bonzo48280 05-23-2011 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12610389)
News coming out that Brian Rafalski will announce his retirement this week. Everyone thought Lidstrom would be the guy, and still might be. No one thought Rafi would be gone. Hello $6mil in cap space.

Whenever I play NHL 11, he fucks me up alllllll of the time.

bonzo48280 05-23-2011 08:39 PM

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so if Lidstrom leaves, is the what will Detroit do for defenders?

TMoore4075 05-23-2011 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12610399)
so if Lidstrom leaves, is the what will Detroit do for defenders?

If Lidstrom leaves you go balls out and offer sheet Weber. They might also go trade route. They would have all kinds of money to work with. If he's back they still have good money and the kid Brendan Smith in Grand Rapids who's ready for the NHL. Will be an interesting summer for me.

bonzo48280 05-23-2011 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 12610442)
If Lidstrom leaves you go balls out and offer sheet Weber. They might also go trade route. They would have all kinds of money to work with. If he's back they still have good money and the kid Brendan Smith in Grand Rapids who's ready for the NHL. Will be an interesting summer for me.

if you fuckers get Shea Weber I'll be uber madz

TMoore4075 05-23-2011 10:48 PM

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The Preds would match almost anything. Wings have plenty of UFA options on D thankfully. Wouldn't mind getting rid of Hidler to free up some money and five the kids a shot. Would also give you a little money for an in-season trade if needed.

lockman21 05-23-2011 11:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12610498)
if you fuckers get Shea Weber I'll be uber madz

That's not going to happen.

Wings sure have some interesting choices. Really would help them if Lindstrom announced his choice sooner than later.

Pretty weak UFA d-man field this year. Might cause the Wings to overpay someone.

jackisback24 05-23-2011 11:53 PM

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These pickle smokin commentators on VS calling the game are so pro-Tampa, especially the color guy. They are absolutely sucky. Yes, Tampa has a quick offense but give the B's defense and goaltending some credit you faygs.

jackisback24 05-24-2011 12:08 AM

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One more win, Bruins. One more.

bonzo48280 05-24-2011 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jackisback24 (Post 12611223)
One more win, Bruins. One more.

Take Vancouver by the cheeks and sstick your sikc so ar up theur pooper that they remember how close they wre to losing in round1. ficl em. hey can take a walk so far that they will walk to VY magirus maimusic!

rickyh24 05-24-2011 03:28 AM

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http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?&id=115404

JRS1386 05-24-2011 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jackisback24 (Post 12611118)
These pickle smokin commentators on VS calling the game are so pro-Tampa, especially the color guy. They are absolutely sucky. Yes, Tampa has a quick offense but give the B's defense and goaltending some credit you faygs.

You do realize this is the thread for next year. Talk about your Bruins!!! in the other thread and let us all wallow in out defeat. Also, who cares who the announcers seem to favor? They have absolutely 0 outcome on the game

Rebecca De Mornay 05-24-2011 09:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 12611813)
You do realize this is the thread for next year. Talk about your Bruins!!! in the other thread and let us all wallow in out defeat. Also, who cares who the announcers seem to favor? They have absolutely 0 outcome on the game

I was just about to post both of these things

TMoore4075 05-24-2011 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 12610874)
That's not going to happen.

Wings sure have some interesting choices. Really would help them if Lindstrom announced his choice sooner than later.

Pretty weak UFA d-man field this year. Might cause the Wings to overpay someone.

Lidstrom has said he'll let them know before July 1st and probably will by the draft. He's not Scott Niedermeyer.

The defenseman out there aren't all bad. Not Rafalski types but Pitkanen, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Wisniewski, Kaberle (not thanks), or maybe they take a shot at Eric Brewer. Then there is always the trade route of a guy like Bogosian. They have found ways to resurrect some guys careers. Cleary, Bertuzzi, Eaves, Miller, Stuart. I am not worried at all. Unlike most Wings fans who think they know better than Ken Holland and get made when he doesn't sign an enforcer I have 100% faith in him because if you would have told me in 1998 that they'd win a Cup in 08 and still be challenging for one in 2011 I'd say you were crazy.

TMoore4075 05-24-2011 01:35 PM

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I love this idea from Friedman:

7) How about this scenario: with the extra cap room, Holland makes a run at Brad Richards. Imagine giving Mike Babcock the ability to play around with Richards, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg - yikes. Trade the maddening Valtteri Filppula and then work on your blue-line. Two reasons this won't happen: the Red Wings believe in spending money on defence first and, with a new CBA looming, this may be Richards' last chance to hit a contract Grand Slam.

Like he said probably wouldn't have happened but the Wings could pull it off. Trade Fil and with Rafi gone that's 9mil to spend. Brendan Smith coming up wont cost much money and then get another Dman for that extra money from the cap going up. It would be tight but could be done. Won't be....but could be.

bonzo48280 05-24-2011 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12611744)
Take Vancouver by the cheeks and sstick your sikc so ar up theur pooper that they remember how close they wre to losing in round1. ficl em. hey can take a walk so far that they will walk to VY magirus maimusic!

drunk....

EDIT: and I also probably meant to put this in the 10/11 thread

lockman21 05-24-2011 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12612726)
drunk....

EDIT: and I also probably meant to put this in the 10/11 thread

:lol:lol:lol:lol

bonzo48280 05-24-2011 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12611744)
Take Vancouver by the cheeks and sstick your sikc so ar up theur pooper that they remember how close they wre to losing in round1. ficl em. hey can take a walk so far that they will walk to VY magirus maimusic!

VY magirus maimusic = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VY_Canis_Majoris

fonzz41 05-24-2011 07:57 PM

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Looks like ol' Dougie Weight is calling it a career as well:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=5...d-rr-headlines

TMoore4075 05-24-2011 09:33 PM

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Darren Ford of jetsowner.com has changed his Jets Meter to 100%. He wouldn't do that without very good news. It sounds like Atlanta moving is pretty damn close now.

efraser77 05-25-2011 01:56 AM

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Welp, might as well bump this thread. Dear Doug Wilson: Please upgrade your defense. And see if you can go to some witch doctor or something to lift this curse. That's the only possible explanation for tonight.

UCFish 05-25-2011 01:57 AM

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so unhappy right now

bonzo48280 05-25-2011 02:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by efraser77 (Post 12615405)
Welp, might as well bump this thread. Dear Doug Wilson: Please upgrade your defense. And see if you can go to some witch doctor or something to lift this curse. That's the only possible explanation for tonight.

want Hjalmarrson?

UCFish 05-25-2011 02:51 AM

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how about Campoli?

JRS1386 05-25-2011 02:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12615520)
want Hjalmarrson?

His contract is excellent from what I hear

TMoore4075 05-25-2011 09:39 AM

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Future home of the Coyotes???

http://www.king5.com/news/Group-inte...122557174.html

kev87lads 05-25-2011 10:09 AM

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^ That would be awesome. I know of a few people in Seattle that are Canucks fans but would surely love their own team. Selfishly I want a team out there because my wife is from Seattle and we are there about 2 times a year. So that would be solid. They have no arena though. That's the sticking point and part of the reason why they couldn't keep the Sonics.

TMoore4075 05-25-2011 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 12615856)
^ That would be awesome. I know of a few people in Seattle that are Canucks fans but would surely love their own team. Selfishly I want a team out there because my wife is from Seattle and we are there about 2 times a year. So that would be solid. They have no arena though. That's the sticking point and part of the reason why they couldn't keep the Sonics.

Yeah the arena is the question. But if they can set that in motion and think it'll get built in a few years then maybe a solid owner trumps the arena for the short term. The arena is why I figured Portland was more likely. I'm very surprised Daly would even say anything like that. My guess is it has to be in regards to PHX. I guess maybe FLA but I dunno.

If it is PHX, then move the Panthers to Quebec when/if they get their new arena. The Isles stay put with a new arena and then you are much more stable as a league then you have ever been since they've gone to 30 teams.

lockman21 05-25-2011 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 12615525)
how about Campoli?

I definitely want to keep Campoli. I assume his cap hit will stay about the same (1.4 million), so I'd love it if we resigned him to a 1-2 year deal at that number. Give that year or two for the 400 different defensemen we have coming up through the system to develop.

fonzz41 05-25-2011 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by efraser77 (Post 12615405)
Welp, might as well bump this thread. Dear Doug Wilson: Please upgrade your defense. And see if you can go to some witch doctor or something to lift this curse. That's the only possible explanation for tonight.

The defense was not the problem. They did a good job of limiting Vancouver's shots and keeping a very potent offense to the outside. What was the stat? Vancouver had less than 10 shots a period over 8 periods in the last few games? Something like that. IMO, White and Wallin were the best defensive pair of the last few games, and guys like Vlasic are vastly underrated. Did they make a few mistakes? Sure, but every defense does. If you truly watch them (their positioning, their pressure in the D-zone and o-zone), they are actually quite effective.

Heatley nailed it on the head, he didn't produce. Neither did the rest of the guys making the big bucks. Hell, Heatley was non-existent until last night. The Sharks team as a whole needs to learn how to dig deeper on a consistent basis, not just when their backs are against the wall facing elimination. They are deep offensively and defensively, have a goalie that - while not perfect - has won a Stanley Cup and gone to the CF in his first two seasons in the league, and a good coach. It's the attitude and work ethic that needs to change.

bonzo48280 05-26-2011 01:32 AM

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Jumbo Joe is the ultimate choking bitch.

EDIT: Only reason Luongo doesn't have that is because he just beat Jumbo joe.

TMoore4075 05-26-2011 08:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12619303)
Jumbo Joe is the ultimate choking bitch.

EDIT: Only reason Luongo doesn't have that is because he just beat Jumbo joe.

He actually had a decent conference final. Still a huge douche and I hope he never wins a Cup but statistically he was ok. Dany Heatley on the other hand...he was terrible.

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 09:24 AM

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Press conference 11am Mountain Time in Winnipeg. Thrashers are headed to Winnipeg.

bradshaw06 05-31-2011 12:49 PM

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp6063

funny but sad at the same time.

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 12:51 PM

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I read that just a minute ago. How sad is that? What a cluster fuck Atlanta Spirit is.

bradshaw06 05-31-2011 01:00 PM

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Anyone have a link to the press conference?

edit tsn is blocked here, i am assuming nhl.com will have it soon.

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 01:12 PM

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nhl.com will have it. tsn was working for me and then crapped out. cbc.ca has it also.

tsn is back up for me.

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 01:25 PM

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Here comes Bettman. Should be interesting.

bradshaw06 05-31-2011 01:27 PM

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bettman clearly not used to being applauded. haha

bradshaw06 05-31-2011 01:35 PM

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The Winnipeg Season Tickets

bradshaw06 05-31-2011 01:41 PM

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Lots of talk about selling tickets. Feel like i am watching an advertisement

uro55 05-31-2011 01:43 PM

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Nothing about this is sad, this is all awesome

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 01:43 PM

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Average ticket price is $82. Comparable to the other small Canadian markets. That'll be good for the market. They'll have no problem getting this one.

Rebecca De Mornay 05-31-2011 01:44 PM

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When do you think they'll announce who is going to move East?

dduncan6er 05-31-2011 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12633005)
When do you think they'll announce who is going to move East?

Probably after the finals. I'd say all signs point to Nashville.

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12633005)
When do you think they'll announce who is going to move East?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12633006)
Probably after the finals. I'd say all signs point to Nashville.

Not until well into the season. Winnipeg/Manitoba will play in the SE for the upcoming year. Don't think we'll know until after the first of the year since we'll need the BoG meeting in December to have the official conversation. I think it'll be Detroit or Nashville. But I think the two teams fighting to go will be Detroit ro CBJ. I don't think the Preds will push to leave because they won't want to leave Detroit and Chicago. They have rivalries there.

bradshaw06 05-31-2011 01:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12633005)
When do you think they'll announce who is going to move East?

winnipeg is going to play in the east this upcoming season, then realignment after that.

dduncan6er 05-31-2011 01:50 PM

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Damn that is absolutely brutal. That's the farthest possible location from the Southeast. :lol Is there a reason why they're waiting another year?

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 01:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12633026)
Damn that is absolutely brutal. That's the farthest possible location from the Southeast. :lol Is there a reason why they're waiting another year?

The lateness of the deal getting done. The schedule is already getting finalized so realigning would have been a pain to get done. Plus I think they want to have a big discussion among of the owners about who is the right team to move and how the alignement in the west will work. Obviously a Central team is going East but there are a few options out West for who goes to the Central. The Wild or the Stars.

uro55 05-31-2011 01:54 PM

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This is all so awesome:hump

Rebecca De Mornay 05-31-2011 01:59 PM

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Winnipeg is going to play in the South East?? :lol :lol

bradshaw06 05-31-2011 02:02 PM

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lol you can just tell Bettman hates all this.

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12633065)
Winnipeg is going to play in the South East?? :lol :lol

Teams in the NE and Atlantic have to travel there twice and the SE teams 3 times. Now that's funny.

~Crashintome89~ 05-31-2011 02:21 PM

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It would be a huge mistake not to call this team the Winnipeg Jets.

TMoore4075 05-31-2011 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12633132)
It would be a huge mistake not to call this team the Winnipeg Jets.

Gary Bettman said they would make the Jets name available if True North wanted it.


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