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fonzz41 04-06-2012 07:43 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by efraser77 (Post 13497340)
Crazy crazy game. 5-5 in OT right now. Thornton and Clowe both get Gordie Howe Hat Trick, and Clowe just played the puck away from Stoll while he was on the bench and didn't get caught. :lol

http://espn.go.com/losangeles/video/clip?id=7782005

:lol:lol:lol Ryan Clowe's response + sly grin = priceless

Bron Yr Aur 04-06-2012 07:45 AM

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That's pretty funny, but the refs should not have missed that.

cry_minarets458 04-06-2012 08:42 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
what type of penalty would that even be considered? never come across that before in my few years of watching

edit: Post 8888!

cry_minarets458 04-06-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 13497512)
Yea. That is me. I didnt even know about hockey until 2007.

I didn't start following hockey until Crosby was all over the news with his concussions.

:trap

dduncan6er 04-06-2012 08:46 AM

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Probably unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't think its too many men because hes not on the ice.

cry_minarets458 04-06-2012 08:49 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13497894)
Probably unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't think its too many men because hes not on the ice.

i did some research

Rule 56 - Interference

56.3 Bench Minor Penalty - A bench minor penalty shall be imposed when an unidentifiable player on the players’ bench or penalty bench or any Coach or non-playing Club personnel who, by means of his stick or his body, interferes with the movements of the puck or any opponent on the ice during the progress of the play.

fonzz41 04-06-2012 08:51 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by cry_minarets458 (Post 13497886)
what type of penalty would that even be considered? never come across that before in my few years of watching

edit: Post 8888!

I believe it would be called as an Interference penalty if I remember correctly... but I've never had to make a call like that, so I'm not completely sure. :lol

EDIT: Yep, it's interference: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26348

EDIT 2: Sorry Cry Minarets, you beat me to it.

cry_minarets458 04-06-2012 09:00 AM

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no worries...yeah, i wasn't sure if it'd be interference or too many men on the ice...oh well.

ps tort's press conference after the game was funny. everyone bitches in hockey. of course everyone is going to hear about the penguins bitching when they have two of the biggest stars in the league and are a very popular organization. :lol but, Orpik is one of my favorite players from the AHL and I will even admit that that wasn't the brightest play I've ever seen.

dmbmuskie 04-06-2012 09:01 AM

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Pens are in everyone's head. It's fantastic.

fonzz41 04-06-2012 09:08 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by cry_minarets458 (Post 13497925)
no worries...yeah, i wasn't sure if it'd be interference or too many men on the ice...oh well.

ps tort's press conference after the game was funny. everyone bitches in hockey. of course everyone is going to hear about the penguins bitching when they have two of the biggest stars in the league and are a very popular organization. :lol but, Orpik is one of my favorite players from the AHL and I will even admit that that wasn't the brightest play I've ever seen.

I've been reffing for almost ten years, and if that happened on my watch, I'd definitely have to go to the score table and thumb through the rule book a bit. Few things are more embarrassing than that. :lol

I'm a big fan of Orpik, definitely don't think he's the villain guys like Biron made him out to be in his post-game comments, but that hit was definitely dangerous. I've watched it a few times and it's tough to tell if it was intentional or not, but the fact remains that it was dangerous and could have been avoided. Deserving of the penalty he got.

cry_minarets458 04-06-2012 09:13 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13497939)
I've been reffing for almost ten years, and if that happened on my watch, I'd definitely have to go to the score table and thumb through the rule book a bit. Few things are more embarrassing than that. :lol

I'm a big fan of Orpik, definitely don't think he's the villain guys like Biron made him out to be in his post-game comments, but that hit was definitely dangerous. I've watched it a few times and it's tough to tell if it was intentional or not, but the fact remains that it was dangerous and could have been avoided. Deserving of the penalty he got.

Couldn't have summed it up any better than that. :thumbsup

dduncan6er 04-06-2012 09:18 AM

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Is he getting a hearing for that hit? I've seen hits that weren't nearly as bad as that result in suspensions this year.

~Crashintome89~ 04-06-2012 09:25 AM

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Even if Orpik gets a hearing you know he's going to be sitting just one game, obviously.

s0628711 04-06-2012 09:25 AM

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I REALLY hope that Stepan is fine. That play was uncalled for. Orpik got beat and I don't totally hate him because it just appeared he was attempting a play rather than fully intending to blow Stepan up.

Dramageek 04-06-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13497939)
I've been reffing for almost ten years, and if that happened on my watch, I'd definitely have to go to the score table and thumb through the rule book a bit. Few things are more embarrassing than that. :lol

I'm a big fan of Orpik, definitely don't think he's the villain guys like Biron made him out to be in his post-game comments, but that hit was definitely dangerous. I've watched it a few times and it's tough to tell if it was intentional or not, but the fact remains that it was dangerous and could have been avoided. Deserving of the penalty he got.

I agree with this for sure. What is your take on Bylsma's post-game comments that Orpik was on line to make the hit, then Stepan moved to try to avoid it, and the collision that occurred was an unfortunate consequence of that? He compared it to the Stars' Nystrom's hit on Kris Letang a couple months ago. Letang tried to duck out of the way and unfortunately Nystrom contacted his head.

I'm not saying Stepan was at all responsible, just saying that the result was likely not intended on Orpik's part.

fonzz41 04-06-2012 09:27 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13497968)
Is he getting a hearing for that hit? I've seen hits that weren't nearly as bad as that result in suspensions this year.

Nothing I've seen from the league yet, anybody else seen anything?

My guess would be they are reviewing it now, probably taking into account the 5-minute major and game misconduct assessed on the play and if further supplemental discipline is required. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a call from Sheriff Shanny

s0628711 04-06-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 13497981)
I agree with this for sure. What is your take on Bylsma's post-game comments that Orpik was on line to make the hit, then Stepan moved to try to avoid it, and the collision that occurred was an unfortunate consequence of that? He compared it to the Stars' Nystrom's hit on Kris Letang a couple months ago. Letang tried to duck out of the way and unfortunately Nystrom contacted his head.

I'm not saying Stepan was at all responsible, just saying that the result was likely not intended on Orpik's part.

I'm a ranger fan and I would have to agree with most of that. Stepan side stepped him and there wasn't anywhere for Orpik to go. He did lean his leg out but I don't think he intended to blow Stepan up like that.

dduncan6er 04-06-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13497978)
Even if Orpik gets a hearing you know he's going to be sitting just one game, obviously.

That's true.

dmbmuskie 04-06-2012 09:34 AM

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It was a dumb move, but I'm not sure it was malicious. You can just as easily mangle your own knee there.

fonzz41 04-06-2012 09:38 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 13497981)
I agree with this for sure. What is your take on Bylsma's post-game comments that Orpik was on line to make the hit, then Stepan moved to try to avoid it, and the collision that occurred was an unfortunate consequence of that? He compared it to the Stars' Nystrom's hit on Kris Letang a couple months ago. Letang tried to duck out of the way and unfortunately Nystrom contacted his head.

I'm not saying Stepan was at all responsible, just saying that the result was likely not intended on Orpik's part.

I think I've said in here before that nothing - NOTHING - is worse for being a defenseman than getting cleanly and obviously beat. You've basically failed at your job if you do so.

With that preface, you begin to understand the thought process of Orpik as the play is developing. He's going in for the hit, Stepan makes a move that will leave Orpik in the dust. At this point, instinct kicks in, and that is to do something - anything - to adjust your motion and keep from getting beat. Thus, out comes that knee.

That being said, it was avoidable. Orpik is not a villain or overly dirty player. I definitely don't think he meant to seriously injure or even light up Stepan. But it happened. Absolutely no onus on Stepan, none at all.

dmbmuskie 04-06-2012 09:58 AM

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Sid is going to be on with Madden today. Should be great radio.

DmBand801 04-06-2012 10:26 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13494937)
If the Panthers play the Devils, I think they can take them in a series.

:violent

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13495052)
Ehhhhh. Panthers are just so not good. Easily going to be worst team in the playoffs, to me. Yeah yeah I know they have more pts than a team or two. But they aren't good. They have nobody in the same league as Kovalchuk and Parise. Devils, if anything, are underrated coming into this playoffs IMO.

The Panthers have one line. That's it. Shut down Versteeg, Fleischmann, Weiss.

JRS1386 04-06-2012 10:55 AM

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So how much ice time you think the stars for the Flyers/Pens get tomorrow?

dduncan6er 04-06-2012 10:58 AM

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Neither team should even dress their stars. It's a totally meaningless game and you don't want to risk injury. With that said I'm sure it'll be physical as hell.

fonzz41 04-06-2012 11:13 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Laviolette and Granato should both dress for the game.

dmbmuskie 04-06-2012 11:20 AM

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Pens shouldn't dress anyone. I'd call up as many AHL guys as possible.

dduncan6er 04-06-2012 11:25 AM

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I'd love to see both teams call up ahl goons. That wouldn't make the nhl very happy.

dmbmuskie 04-06-2012 11:27 AM

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"TWO QUESTIONS: Here are two questions I'd like answered by hockey's intelligentsia. By John Tortorella, Peter Laviolette, and all the idiot Rangers and Flyers fans. If the Penguins are sissies, how come they're the ones laying people out? If the Penguins are whining, how come you're the ones bitching? Tortorella, the Rangers coach, has every right to be upset by Brooks Orpik's hit on Derek Stepan. It was knee-on-knee. Reckless. But things happen very fast in hockey. And I bet Torts didn't lecture Mike Rupp back on Jan. 6 after Rupp knocked Jordan Staal out for a month with a similar check. If I played against the Rangers, I'd blow up Torts every chance I could. It's a BLAST watching him explode: The facial tics, the histrionics, the theatrics. It's like watching an eight-year-old coach in the NHL. I don't see the connection between Orpik's hit and the alleged whining perpetrated by Sid and Geno. "

~Mark Madden "The Super Genius"

JRS1386 04-06-2012 11:38 AM

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Mark Madden isn't the brightest guy is he?

dmbmuskie 04-06-2012 11:42 AM

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He's a Super Genius.


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