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dduncan6er 02-15-2012 07:26 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Apparently Marchand didn't appear in the Bruins Stanley cup championship DVD because he showed up drunk to the interview. :lol

fonzz41 02-15-2012 07:37 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13345957)
Apparently Marchand didn't appear in the Bruins Stanley cup championship DVD because he showed up drunk to the interview. :lol

:lol From the looks of the online pics, he and Seguin were pretty much drunk from the night they won the Cup up until training camp opened.

dduncan6er 02-15-2012 07:43 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
A lot of fans were worried about them but they both came into training camp in great shape, and both are obviously taking a big step forward this year.

fonzz41 02-15-2012 07:48 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
^ Exactly. If they would've come in out of shape and gotten off to a bad start, I think they would've come under a lot of fire. But the fact they're both IMPROVING on their performance from last year says a lot about the work they put in between sessions at the bar. No harm done, you just shrug and chalk it up to boys being boys.

EDIT: Although I do sometimes worry about these kids getting too into it, on a slightly more serious note. I think I mentioned a few weeks ago about reading Theo Fleury's autobiography. He is quick to point out that all of his big problems started when he started drinking heavily with "the boys" as a rookie in the Flames farm system. As we know, it led to an insane addiction to cocaine and a myriad of other problems. I realize the majority of NHL players drink, I just hope these young guys can be more responsible about it than guys like Fleury, who basically drank and snorted his career away.

~Crashintome89~ 02-15-2012 08:33 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 13345589)
Last time DMB released an album the Pens won the cup that year. #justsayin

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13345618)
We can also go back further if you want. Since no season in 2005, 2002 Pens were...not so good and Wings won the Cup. 2001 was ECF's so that's pretty good. 1998 Wings Cup again and Pens were gone in round 1. You know....just saying. :)

The last time the Flyers won the Stanley Cup "Born to Run" came out.

Wait, I probably shouldn't have said that...damn it.

TMoore4075 02-15-2012 08:35 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13346388)
The last time the Flyers won the Stanley Cup "Born to Run" came out.

Wait, I probably shouldn't have said that...damn it.

Great album though.

s0628711 02-15-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13345683)
I thought so at first too but all 3 were in different eras. Bruins did it with only 10 teams and had overtime and Flyers didn't have OT but only had to deal with 18 teams. Plus yeah there are shootouts but since shootouts have started no other teams have done this either so again all three are completely different in my mind. Flyers is probably the most impressive since no OT.

Rangers should salute their fans every game. To keep showing up after all that money spent with very little results since 97 the team should thank them.

Not that it really matters, but the NYR do salute after every home victory.

TMoore4075 02-15-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by s0628711 (Post 13346431)
Not that it really matters, but the NYR do salute after every home victory.

Most teams don't though. And read my smart ass comment a few posts back... :)

s0628711 02-15-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13346459)
Most teams don't though. And read my smart ass comment a few posts back... :)

I know, I got ya. ;)

Bron Yr Aur 02-15-2012 08:54 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13344774)
just stop. this does not fall on the GM. So foolish. they were first in the league going into this losing streak, and that's not by chance or overachievement. Tallon is the reason we don't have Versteeg, Ladd, and someone else still on this team.

Tallon did an ok job of building up a really amazing team that for a really short run. But really, if we're totally honest, that's not the best way to win year after year. We got a bit of luck in the Cup season and I'm very grateful we were able to win it that year. But right now we are trying to build a team that can compete year after year.

Right now, I think Q absolutely has got to go. I'm really afraid that last night's loss just broke this team. They really did outplay the Predators and caught some unlucky bounces and a couple of goals that probably needed to be stopped by Emery. But at this point, Q doesn't know how to turn it around. He's run out of solutions, you saw it last night. Brunette - Kruger - Hossa 2nd line? That's just fucking nonsense. Q has to go, this team forgot how to win under him, and he has no idea how to stop the skid.

Stan's ultimate failure will be waiting far too long to pull the plug on Q and his coaching staff, because with this team and all of this talent, it is unacceptable to miss the playoffs and throw away a season when you have all of these guys in their prime.

TMoore4075 02-15-2012 08:54 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
And I'm not trying to knock the Rangers I'm glad they finally got it right. Also easier to be happier with Sean Avery in the minors. I found it embarrassing from 98-2004 for them and I'm not a Rangers fan. How can you spend that much money and be so wrong every year?

TMoore4075 02-15-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13346561)
Tallon did an ok job of building up a really amazing team that for a really short run. But really, if we're totally honest, that's not the best way to win year after year. We got a bit of luck in the Cup season and I'm very grateful we were able to win it that year. But right now we are trying to build a team that can compete year after year.

Right now, I think Q absolutely has got to go. I'm really afraid that last night's loss just broke this team. They really did outplay the Predators and caught some unlucky bounces and a couple of goals that probably needed to be stopped by Emery. But at this point, Q doesn't know how to turn it around. He's run out of solutions, you saw it last night. Brunette - Kruger - Hossa 2nd line? That's just fucking nonsense. Q has to go, this team forgot how to win under him, and he has no idea how to stop the skid.

Stan's ultimate failure will be waiting far too long to pull the plug on Q and his coaching staff, because with this team and all of this talent, it is unacceptable to miss the playoffs and throw away a season when you have all of these guys in their prime.

They should have been down 3-2 to the Preds. They could have been gone in round one that year which is hard to imagine the shit hitting the fan then.

Bron Yr Aur 02-15-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13346572)
They should have been down 3-2 to the Preds. They could have been gone in round one that year which is hard to imagine the shit hitting the fan then.

There are a lot of "could haves" in the NHL. Every team needs a bit of luck to win the Cup, no doubt about it.

Hawks proved that season that they were a great team, though.

TMoore4075 02-15-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bron Yr Aur (Post 13346597)
There are a lot of "could haves" in the NHL. Every team needs a bit of luck to win the Cup, no doubt about it.

Hawks proved that season that they were a great team, though.

Oh I know you were saying they got lucky and that was, imo, their luckiest. If the Preds play catch with it for that whole PP the game is over.

~Crashintome89~ 02-15-2012 09:04 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I'm sorry, but no one is as lucky as the 2010 Philadelphia Flyers. No team even comes close.

Bron Yr Aur 02-15-2012 09:05 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13346609)
Oh I know you were saying they got lucky and that was, imo, their luckiest. If the Preds play catch with it for that whole PP the game is over.

Certainly was their most lucky moment. But they still had to kill off 4 minutes of penalty at the start of overtime and did it. Hawks outplayed them in that game, though, and then outplayed them in the next game and won. Still certainly could have won that series even if they lost game 5.

TMoore4075 02-15-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13346645)
I'm sorry, but no one is as lucky as the 2010 Philadelphia Flyers. No team even comes close.

Truth right here. Could have not even been in the playoffs and when to the 2nd to last game of the year.

DMBzilla 02-15-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 13344911)
So is Kimmo lying when he comments about the effort and the dedication to playing Peter's system night in and night out?

I don't think he's lying, but I think he's talking about the recent losing streak and not some deep seeded ongoing problem (even if it's ongoing at the moment). You seemed to imply that he doesn't think the Flyers have given enough effort all year, when in actuality they're in a slump at the moment. However, even in that slump, there have been games where the offense has looked sharp but too many defensive breakdowns have cost them.

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Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 13344911)
To your other point, the road to the SCF must go through either Boston or NYR in the East. I don't think the Flyers coud beat either team in a 7 game series this year (even if the Flyers are healthy).

Are you o.k. with the Flyers trading a Read or a Couturier or Schenn to land a big name at the deadline? I'm not...

It depends on who that big name is. I think the Flyers will be fine offensively moving forward, but if they can get a defensive monster who can whip the D into shape, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to them making a move.

We do agree on one thing though -- as of right now, the Flyers can't touch Boston or New York. Not even close.

Brohan_Santana 02-15-2012 09:59 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
If the NYR don't get to the ECF there's no way in hell Torts keeps his job

Brohan_Santana 02-15-2012 09:59 AM

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The Mike Green Effect

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Steve...ffect/98/42202

Click the "Show Spoiler" Button to reveal hidden text.

Brohan_Santana 02-15-2012 10:01 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
A power play line of Ovi/Backstrom/Nash/Semin or Brouwer/Green just made me a little wet

s0628711 02-15-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13346568)
And I'm not trying to knock the Rangers I'm glad they finally got it right. Also easier to be happier with Sean Avery in the minors. I found it embarrassing from 98-2004 for them and I'm not a Rangers fan. How can you spend that much money and be so wrong every year?

God what an embarrassment. It was hard to tell people I was a rangers fan all that time.

As for the torts firing if they don't get to the ECF, I disagree. They've built this team directly with his system in mind. No way they can him if there's an early upset.

Mike_Karp 02-15-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 13347096)
A power play line of Ovi/Backstrom/Nash/Semin or Brouwer/Green just made me a little wet

You think that Green or Semin are on the block?

DMBzilla 02-15-2012 12:24 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 13347096)
A power play line of Ovi/Backstrom/Nash/Semin or Brouwer/Green just made me a little wet

I guess you have to get excited over little things when your team is entirely irrelevant.

swordo84 02-15-2012 12:40 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Brohan_Santana (Post 13347096)
A power play line of Ovi/Backstrom/Nash/Semin or Brouwer/Green just made me a little wet

There is no way Nash is dumb enough to go the Washington.

Roose13 02-15-2012 12:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl...124914397.html

Wild prospect Justin Fontaine called the Foo Fighters "Foo Faggots" on Twitter and got suspended

TMoore4075 02-15-2012 12:57 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
For the Hawks fans in here:

https://twitter.com/#!/ToddCordell/s...86179783741441

s0628711 02-15-2012 01:00 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Sounds like rangers are out on Nash. I'm fine with that. It sounds like teams are interested in biron though. Maybe hawks?

fonzz41 02-15-2012 01:12 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by s0628711 (Post 13348234)
Sounds like rangers are out on Nash. I'm fine with that. It sounds like teams are interested in biron though. Maybe hawks?

Regarding Nash, that is probably for the best. When a team is doing well, the last thing you want to do is upset the balance or chemistry they currently have going. Adding a guy like him could just as easily throw them off their groove.

Biron would be an interesting addition to the Hawks in that by all accounts he's one of the top team guys out there and would probably be an incredible influence on Crawford. However, he is not THE answer. It's like all the people who are clamoring for the Hawks to pursue Nabokov... I know he's had a good year for a bad team, but the guy is just a stone's crow from 40... not a long-term solution by any stretch of the imagination. Don't do what the Avs did and mortgage your future to win right now.

All that being said, I doubt the Rangers would be willing to part with a dependable, team-guy like Biron as they're gearing up for a long playoff run. I imagine the team wanting him would have to give up more than they'd be willing to pay for a backup goaltender.

Roose13 02-15-2012 01:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 13348309)
Regarding Nash, that is probably for the best. When a team is doing well, the last thing you want to do is upset the balance or chemistry they currently have going. Adding a guy like him could just as easily throw them off their groove.

Biron would be an interesting addition to the Hawks in that by all accounts he's one of the top team guys out there and would probably be an incredible influence on Crawford. However, he is not THE answer. It's like all the people who are clamoring for the Hawks to pursue Nabokov... I know he's had a good year for a bad team, but the guy is just a stone's crow from 40... not a long-term solution by any stretch of the imagination. Don't do what the Avs did and mortgage your future to win right now.

All that being said, I doubt the Rangers would be willing to part with a dependable, team-guy like Biron as they're gearing up for a long playoff run. I imagine the team wanting him would have to give up more than they'd be willing to pay for a backup goaltender.

Kinda happened to the Flyers last season with Kris Versteeg. I thought the move would put them over the top. I was sorely mistaken


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