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bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:17 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Raymond was avoiding a check, and Marchand was initiating a check...

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
The thing is clipping is described as a hit below the knees of an opposing player. It's a 5 minute penalty and a game misconduct. Would Raymond's hit be classified as that as well?

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:28 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I think that it doesn't apply if you are avoiding a check. Raymond was trying to avoid a check where Marchand was initiating a check. That's just what I think. Obviously they look like the exact same hit but the situations are completely different.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I guess we just disagree. I don't think Marchand is initiating a check there. Salo's own momentum carried him over Marchand.

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:31 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
here is the full video. Marchand make a play for the puck, in the exact same area, in the exact same way about 10 seconds before the hit, and Marchand just checks him. When I watched it the first time I was shocked to see Marchand not go down because the play is EXACTLY the same. Marchand just checks Salo and goes for the puck. 10 seconds later the exact same thing happens and instead of going for the puck, he avoids it and just takes out Salo. That's your penalty, and your suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGD5DbljtfE

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:33 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
nobody can hate the Canucks more than me, we all know that. that being said, Marchand's hit is bullshit.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:35 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I think DMBcubs hates the Canucks more than you. :lol

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 05:50 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13247377)
I think DMBcubs hates the Canucks more than you. :lol

actually that is very possible :lol

Bron Yr Aur 01-09-2012 05:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
The hit was deserving of the penalty and a suspension. Maybe 5 games is a bit much, because to me, hits to the head are a bit worse than to the knees, and they have been getting 2 games quite often it seems.

Still, it looks like Marchand sees Salo coming so he lets the puck go so that Salo plays it and he can check him. And he does so in a very dangerous manner. Pretty shitty play, IMO.

~Crashintome89~ 01-09-2012 05:54 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Marchand's hit was a cheap shot. He's a classless mother who is going to get it one day.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:55 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Marchand plays on the edge for sure. But there are quite a few guys who are dirtier than him in the league.

~Crashintome89~ 01-09-2012 05:56 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13247452)
Marchand plays on the edge for sure. But there are quite a few guys who are dirtier than him in the league.

I'm sure there are--but I wasn't trying to argue that. The suspension was well deserved.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 05:57 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Did not deserve 5 games.

~Crashintome89~ 01-09-2012 06:00 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Marchand has a history, I believe, right? As a repeat offender he was going to get something. The hit was very dangerous. It's not a hip check at all. He takes out his legs, and everyone who knows physics, knows that Salo is going to fall on his head. It was stupid and reckless.

lockman21 01-09-2012 06:03 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 13245631)
I couldn't imagine being the kid who paralyzes another athlete. Hockey is such a fast game and it's so unfortunate these things happen. As for the paralyzed player, there is nothing worse to hear than having the thing you love taken away and told you could never do it again, let alone the fact his life will forever be altered.

Yeah, it's really tough. I can't imagine what it's like for that kid that hit him. At only 16. There were people (kids) sending him death threats on Facebook apparently.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 06:04 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Marchand had one suspension and a fine prior to this one. But look at this hit by Rene Borque which occurred 2 games after he came off a suspension and he got 5 for this. The hit was cheap but not as bad as this hit by Borque which received the same suspension. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I38dKQlTP1E

rickyh24 01-09-2012 06:08 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 13247449)
Marchand's hit was a cheap shot. He's a classless mother who is going to get it one day.

Marchand is far from dirty.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 06:10 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyh24 (Post 13247505)
Marchand is far from dirty.

Ricky this is not true.

UCFish 01-09-2012 06:13 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13247513)
Ricky this is not true.

Ricky brings the dumbz

rickyh24 01-09-2012 06:15 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
UCFish trying to be GoCubs. Never a good thing.

rickyh24 01-09-2012 06:15 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13247513)
Ricky this is not true.

He is not a dirty player.

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 06:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Bourque and Marchand's hits are the same IN THE SENSE THAT they were completely unnecessary.

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 06:16 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyh24 (Post 13247540)
He is not a dirty player.

You are wrong.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 06:17 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13247546)
Bourque and Marchand's hits are the same IN THE SENSE THAT they were completely unnecessary.

One is a blatant head shot. The other is not.

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 06:18 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 13247551)
One is a blatant head shot. The other is not.

I know. Head shots are not the only suspendable hit in the league. Marchand and Salo had the exact same play only 10 seconds before the hit, and Marchand did the right thing. What he did on that hit was completely unnecessary.

rickyh24 01-09-2012 06:19 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13247548)
You are wrong.

Nah I'm not.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 06:21 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I'm aware. Like I've said it's a dirty play. However I think 5 games is pretty ridiculous given that similar hits have not even been penalized, and he got the same suspension as Bourque, who was fresh off a suspension and issued a head shot.

bonzo48280 01-09-2012 06:24 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Cest Le Vie

rickyh24 01-09-2012 06:37 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Brad Marchand is a very nice guy.

dduncan6er 01-09-2012 06:50 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
These guys wouldn't hurt a fly. http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-con...pink-bunny.jpg


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