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fonzz41 07-02-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 15456022)
I have no problem with the Niskanen contract. Go compare his numbers last year to PK's and tell me PK couldn't get the contract Nisk just got, if not more.

Just the thought of the amount of money PK will get on his next contract makes me want to vomit all over myself.

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 09:17 AM

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:lol OMGCG


Ehrhoff, Letang and Martin = 16.25
Green, Niskanen and Orpik = 17.33

We'll see how it goes, but Nisky and Orpik are 4/5 Dmen, and Orpik is only getting worse.

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15456024)
So who's left for today?

Grabovski
Vrbata
Alredsson (Detroit or retirement on him though, right Tim?)
Brodeur
Legwand

Who am I missing?

One guy i am surprised wasnt surprised, especially considering the rumors surrounding him, Kulemin.

fonzz41 07-02-2014 09:38 AM

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First bite of the day: Steve Downie to Pittsburgh.

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15456139)
First bite of the day: Steve Downie to Pittsburgh.

Ah jeez. This is a Tocchet signing. Hopefully it works out, but the injury history kind of has me worried.

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15456155)
Ah jeez. This is a Tocchet signing. Hopefully it works out, but the injury history kind of has me worried.

yea i thought the same thing

however, can it really get any worse for the pens in terms of man games lost? :lol

bonzo48280 07-02-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15456139)
First bite of the day: Steve Downie to Pittsburgh.


Sucks for Pittsburgh

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15456166)
yea i thought the same thing

however, can it really get any worse for the pens in terms of man games lost? :lol

:lol you are right about that. plus the bottom 6 just got much meaner.

fonzz41 07-02-2014 09:44 AM

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I heard it was just 1 year/$1 mil, so not a lot of risk.

TMoore4075 07-02-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15456024)
So who's left for today?

Grabovski
Vrbata
Alredsson (Detroit or retirement on him though, right Tim?)
Brodeur
Legwand

Who am I missing?

For Alfie is sounds like that. His family is staying in the Detroit area for the year whether he plays or not, so can't imagine him going anywhere. He's waiting until August to see how the back is. With Iggy's contract though, maybe he'll jump ship hoping to get more.

Missing but not huge names, Steve Ott and Jokinen.

wampa3 07-02-2014 09:46 AM

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Blake Comeau & Steve Downie @ $1.7 mil >>>>> Tanner Glass @ $1.5 mil

Bottom six is already better.

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 09:48 AM

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let's not forget that pascal dupuis probably slides down to the bottom 6 now also

edit: unless he plays with malkin, i guess?

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wampa3 (Post 15456189)
Blake Comeau & Steve Downie @ $1.7 mil >>>>> Tanner Glass @ $1.5 mil

Bottom six is already better.

Aw hells yeah. All these deals are only 1 yr deals as well.

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15456203)
let's not forget that pascal dupuis probably slides down to the bottom 6 now also

edit: unless he plays with malkin, i guess?

I have no idea what theyre going to do with Dupuis. He needs to be in the bottom 6. I think a trade is coming, because theyre pretty close to the cap.

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15456269)
Aw hells yeah. All these deals are only 1 yr deals as well.



I have no idea what theyre going to do with Dupuis. He needs to be in the bottom 6. I think a trade is coming, because theyre pretty close to the cap.

it's gotta be martin or kunitz, right? if they were gonna move letang it would've happened by now i think

wampa3 07-02-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15456203)
let's not forget that pascal dupuis probably slides down to the bottom 6 now also

edit: unless he plays with malkin, i guess?

Assuming at least one or two more signings, the Pens bottom six could potentially consists of:

Sutter
Dupuis
Bennett
Goc
Adams
Comeau
Downie
Spaling

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 10:08 AM

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i don't see bennett in the bottom 6...but that's just me

wampa3 07-02-2014 10:15 AM

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I think he would be best suited in the top six, but his development was so fucked up under Bylsma that I have no idea what he is really capable of. I think/hope Johnston is going to really help him take his game to the next level.

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wampa3 (Post 15456341)
I think he would be best suited in the top six, but his development was so fucked up under Bylsma that I have no idea what he is really capable of. I think/hope Johnston is going to really help him take his game to the next level.

agreed

another thing that held him back was that wrist, he should've just had surgery right away last year...i appreciate hockey players and their toughness, but sometimes it's to their detriment, not to mention the team's

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15456278)
it's gotta be martin or kunitz, right? if they were gonna move letang it would've happened by now i think

Martin Scuds or Sutter I think.

Sutter may be a surprise, but i think the Spaling and Goc can anchor a 3rd line, especially if Sutter's rfa costs too much.

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 10:20 AM

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sutter? even with the extension? i think they have every intention of keeping sutter

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 10:21 AM

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and i highly doubt they can move scuds for more than a bag of pucks with that contract

TMoore4075 07-02-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15456363)
and i highly doubt they can move scuds for more than a bag of pucks with that contract

To the Islanders it is then...

TMoore4075 07-02-2014 10:49 AM

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Alright I think I gotta write a blog post. Fans can be so dumb and crazy. Yes the Wings missed out on guys they wanted, the guys chose elsewhere. We'll never know why but somehow it's the GM's fault and something is wrong and he needs to be fired....A lot of assumptions being made out there with no facts to back it up.

JRS1386 07-02-2014 10:55 AM

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It's because Detroit , the city, is a shithole

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15456363)
and i highly doubt they can move scuds for more than a bag of pucks with that contract

I'm not so sure. If teams are out there signing Engelland for 3 mil and Orpik for 5 years, some team would take Scuds, a two time cup champ on a contract that decreases the next two years.

hailtopitt 07-02-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw06 (Post 15456509)
I'm not so sure. If teams are out there signing Engelland for 3 mil and Orpik for 5 years, some team would take Scuds, a two time cup champ on a contract that decreases the next two years.

i mean yea maybe some team would take him, but man, watching him play was hard at times last year, he didn't just look average, he looked lost at times

bradshaw06 07-02-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15456529)
i mean yea maybe some team would take him, but man, watching him play was hard at times last year, he didn't just look average, he looked lost at times

He's gots to go. I think JR knows that and it'll happen.

Bron Yr Aur 07-02-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15455774)
Chris, Marty, and Bonzo, I can't tell you how much I love the Brad Richards signing. It easily has the potential to be on the best of the offseason in terms of what Richards can do compared to the money/term, and how it succinctly addresses a long-standing need in Chicago. He seemed a bit past his prime in NYR, but who knows what the change of scenery and coming to the Hawks could do for him? And for a year at $2 million? Hell yeah.

Only thing that worries me is who the Hawks will get rid of in order to get under the cap. At this point if they can get rid of Versteeg I will be pretty pleased, bu they are improving the forward depth by signing Richards at the expense of the defensive depth (if they have to get rid of 1 of Oduya/Leddy/Rozi) I don't know if it's a huge improvement. That said, I'm excited as Richards certainly seems to have much more in the tank than the last few Blackhawk vet signings (Brunette, Zus, Morrison....).

TMoore4075 07-02-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 15456462)
It's because Detroit , the city, is a shithole

Yeah cause you know they would live in the city. Watch 24/7 and see the house Alfie lives in? Or NHL36 with Lidstrom. I drive by his old subdivision regularly. holy shit on those houses man. lol

JRS1386 07-02-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15456572)
Yeah cause you know they would live in the city. Watch 24/7 and see the house Alfie lives in? Or NHL36 with Lidstrom. I drive by his old subdivision regularly. holy shit on those houses man. lol

I'm just ragging on you man. It is strange though how FA passed up playing in Detroit


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