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tommy mandone 04-19-2015 08:41 PM

Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need its own thread
 
I say this alot, but I love the Camden n2 13 pig, prob the best from the current era, and I agree that 14 was a bad year, the one I saw in SPAC was particularly quick and kind of off but it was opener of the electric set that night which made up for lack of quality

Dannyyankou 04-20-2015 10:03 AM

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Bartender from Alpine 2003 is a top 5 all time Bartender for me.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Snd6iPk0zdI

bowa36 04-20-2015 09:11 PM

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The Stone has gotten five plays each year for the past three years, whether it be D&T or full band

space_raven 04-20-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bowa36 (Post 15917212)
The Stone has gotten five plays each year for the past three years

That's crazy disappointing. Make 0% sense.

bowa36 04-20-2015 09:16 PM

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That's 15 plays in 3 years

For comparison, Shake Me Like a Monkey has 18 plays in the past year alone

I just find it strange why they don't at the very least keep it in common rotation. Crowd loves it, hardcores love it, seems like they have fun playing it. Outstanding live too

tyler3440 04-20-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bowa36 (Post 15917221)
That's 15 plays in 3 years

For comparison, Shake Me Like a Monkey has 18 plays in the past year alone

I just find it strange why they don't at the very least keep it in common rotation. Crowd loves it, hardcores love it, seems like they have fun playing it. Outstanding live too

The band can be dumb sometimes

space_raven 04-20-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler3440 (Post 15917266)
The band can be dumb sometimes

Understatement of the month.

bartender_man 04-20-2015 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bowa36 (Post 15917212)
The Stone has gotten five plays each year for the past three years, whether it be D&T or full band

That's pathetic.....

tyler3440 04-20-2015 10:31 PM

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I think LIHOG is a good live song. I don't mind that it can be 15+ min long I think that makes the song good. It's not like If only or angel where it just drags on and on for no reason. LITHOG has an awasome jam IMO

moccasin 04-20-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler3440 (Post 15917266)
The band can be dumb sometimes

You can't spell dumb without dmb.

808DMBFAN 04-20-2015 11:45 PM

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I have so much random dmb thoughts when I drive. This thread is a good idea.

Live Trax vol2 (SF 2004). I really, really enjoy how Dave messed up the first verse of #41. As a relatively new DMB fan (since 2008), are there any other recordings that Dave mixes the lyrics (by accident or on purpose) that make the song memorable?

Dannyyankou 04-20-2015 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 808DMBFAN (Post 15917415)
I have so much random dmb thoughts when I drive. This thread is a good idea.

Live Trax vol2 (SF 2004). I really, really enjoy how Dave messed up the first verse of #41. As a relatively new DMB fan (since 2008), are there any other recordings that Dave mixes the lyrics (by accident or on purpose) that make the song memorable?

He messes up #41 on Live Trax 32 pretty badly.

He also mixes up the first and second verse of WWYS on Live Trax 11.

808DMBFAN 04-21-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dannyyankou (Post 15917434)
He messes up #41 on Live Trax 32 pretty badly.

He also mixes up the first and second verse of WWYS on Live Trax 11.

thanks. I try and check it out.

TwoStep2888 04-21-2015 01:24 AM

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Angel isn't a good song, but the version with Krasno from WH8v2 is real good, I like it a lot.

tommy mandone 04-21-2015 02:15 AM

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If you hit up the almanac, you can find all alternative lyrics for #41 on the song page, then go from there. Tends to happen alot where he accidentally mixes up the verses. There's actually a good Dave and Tim version with a screw up that turned out as a decent improv, I forget which one it is, someone on here probably knows

space_raven 04-21-2015 09:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 808DMBFAN (Post 15917415)
I have so much random dmb thoughts when I drive. This thread is a good idea.

Live Trax vol2 (SF 2004). I really, really enjoy how Dave messed up the first verse of #41. As a relatively new DMB fan (since 2008), are there any other recordings that Dave mixes the lyrics (by accident or on purpose) that make the song memorable?

What I also like about that version is how Carter starts the song as Rhyme & Reason not #41. Just shows what a beast he is, how he transitions into #41 so smoothly, feels almost natural.

cornnuts 04-21-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bowa36 (Post 15917212)
The Stone has gotten five plays each year for the past three years, whether it be D&T or full band


The stone is pretty solid now, but it is nowhere near where it used to be. I strongly disagree with those that think that dmb 3.0 stone is as good or better than it has ever sounded.

space_raven 04-21-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cornnuts (Post 15918065)
The stone is pretty solid now, but it is nowhere near where it used to be. I strongly disagree with those that think that dmb 3.0 stone is as good or better than it has ever sounded.

Who thinks that? I, for one, 100% do not.

spoot388 04-21-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by space_raven (Post 15918068)
Who thinks that? I, for one, 100% do not.

lots of people do. jeff routinely kills the solo, which was only ever really played once he joined the band. and the cant help falling in love interpolation is a regular thing, which is awesome. how could the song be better back in the day when it was missing 2 of the things that make the song a better performance?

space_raven 04-21-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spoot388 (Post 15918211)
lots of people do. jeff routinely kills the solo, which was only ever really played once he joined the band. and the cant help falling in love interpolation is a regular thing, which is awesome. how could the song be better back in the day when it was missing 2 of the things that make the song a better performance?

:lol I'm not going to attempt a defense on this one. Apples and oranges.

cornnuts 04-21-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spoot388 (Post 15918211)
lots of people do. jeff routinely kills the solo, which was only ever really played once he joined the band. and the cant help falling in love interpolation is a regular thing, which is awesome. how could the song be better back in the day when it was missing 2 of the things that make the song a better performance?


You really think the more recent stones sound better than the stone from LT8 for example? Or listener supported? or LT3?

What's your favorite released stone?

dmbfan4ever 04-21-2015 05:23 PM

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Sometimes I think, "Damn, Dave would be much more appreciated as a songwriter, musician, and lyricist if his career was as a solo artist."

Then I think, "Damn, Dave may not have gotten anywhere without the best Drummer of the modern era and very good/great supplementary pieces."

I do contend that Dave's "best years" will be in his 50s-70s as he hopefully makes albums with simply a guitar, a scraggly voice, and reflective/profound lyrics.

space_raven 04-21-2015 05:31 PM

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Granted, I've only heard him on LT 7, and hes almost 70 years old now, but, Paul McCandless sounds amazing with DMB. Closer to LeRoi's style then others, IMHO. I wonder what his schedule was like in 2008 when LeRoi got injured?

spoot388 04-21-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cornnuts (Post 15918503)
You really think the more recent stones sound better than the stone from LT8 for example? Or listener supported? or LT3?

What's your favorite released stone?

im not saying those aren't great performances, but yes, i would rather a current stone than one from 10-15 years ago. i would rather the solo and crowd singing than not.


favorite stone is LT22. yes, i was there. yes, i was front row. its a great performance and jeff kills the solo. i don't see how you can't love it. its not the end of the world for something from today to be better than something from 10 years ago.

snow1868 04-21-2015 06:50 PM

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Nothing from today from this band is better than it was ten years. Sorry.

space_raven 04-21-2015 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spoot388 (Post 15918551)
im not saying those aren't great performances, but yes, i would rather a current stone than one from 10-15 years ago. i would rather the solo and crowd singing than not.


favorite stone is LT22. yes, i was there. yes, i was front row. its a great performance and jeff kills the solo. i don't see how you can't love it. its not the end of the world for something from today to be better than something from 10 years ago.

You're right it's not the end of the world. Cell phones are much better today then they were 10 years ago, The Stone was much better 10 years ago then it is today. It is what it is.

snow1868 04-21-2015 09:10 PM

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#41 from Europe 09 just came on my Pandora shuffle and my god, it's awful. Jeff is just terrible and has no subtlety in his playing. Yeah, I'm going to keep listening to shows from 93-00 and 02-04.

space_raven 04-21-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by snow1868 (Post 15918669)
#41 from Europe 09 just came on my Pandora shuffle and my god, it's awful. Jeff is just terrible and has no subtlety in his playing. Yeah, I'm going to keep listening to shows from 93-00 and 02-04.

That's my biggest gripe with Jeff. All the technical talent in the world, no subtlety or soul to his sound.

RiotAct 04-21-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by snow1868 (Post 15918557)
Nothing from today from this band is better than it was ten years. Sorry.


Uhh, the studio albums, for one.

TheStone91 04-21-2015 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cornnuts (Post 15918065)
The stone is pretty solid now, but it is nowhere near where it used to be. I strongly disagree with those that think that dmb 3.0 stone is as good or better than it has ever sounded.

This. Same here. Whenever I see people saying The Stone is at its best with DMB 3.0, I'm confused. :confused

The LT 8 version is just perfect. Band was in its prime with this song in '04 especially. :thumbsup

Current versions lack so much compared to ones from 10 years ago.

Tim's obnoxious electric, Boyd's out-of-tune/hard to hear violin, Dave's weaker voice/inability to improv, no Butch to fill out the background perfectly, no smooth/heartfelt Roi sax outro, the list goes on...


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